David Silva

[bluesilver]

The news will change every day from now, yesterday i read the opposite new, that will be an impossible transfer <a class="postlink" href="http://www.cadenaser.com/deportes/articulo/david-silva-objetivo-imposible-real-madrid/csrcsrpor/20120521csrcsrdep_14/Tes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.cadenaser.com/deportes/artic ... dep_14/Tes</a> ..Anyway I am looking forward that Real plays with City, hopefully in the CL group. Would be both great games

Its pretty simple.

Silva is a City player. He says that he doesnt want to return to Spain and is happier in England, noting his excellent relationship with our manager and our club. We are in no need of money or any of your players more than we are Silva.

You can wum as much as you like fella, hes staying here

The translation of "wum" doesn´t look good. being a moderator you should be saying that to nobody and even less in the transfer section where there are lots of speculation and news changing every day. Fairness is very important in a moderator. I imagine that your task is to prevent abuse and get that the rules of the forum are followed.However saying "wum" it seems that only one type of opinion is allowed. As you said I will continue doing it as much as I like, don´t worry, will be only good links..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUlvcFZCcWuRpbVdIU2s&david-silva-golazo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUl ... lva-golazo</a>

Not that I mind watching that goal again (or any Silva vids for that matter, that Cuatro vid made me chuckle) but what's your point? We know Silva's amazing, that other teams want him. RM is just 1 of many now.

And I agree with that Cadena Ser article you linked-it's close to impossible for RM. 1) Is Mourinho really going to admit he made mistakes re: Kaka and Silva? Madrid *had* Silva and then rejected him yet again. 2) Think he will go to play behind Ozil when Silva is the *main* playmaker under Mancini??
Answer: NO and nooooooo. Just because he's shy doesn't mean he doesn't have pride/an ego.

But if you have links to RM forums, I'd like them, even 1's in Spanish. You say that it's Perez/Madrid fans > Mourinho that want Silva, but the comments from that Cadena Ser are mixed: RM only want Portuguese, they lost their chance, Silva's better off in Eng-he'd get lost in RM, etc etc.

As for players moving, like you've said, they change their minds for various reasons, loyalty out the door. But there's something to be said about the unexplored, being pioneers. Silva and Aguero are/will be legends b/c they were a big part of a team that brought the FA Cup (Silva) and the PL trophy to MC. *Maybe* they did start out thinking "a few yrs in Eng then back to Spain". Maybe this experience has *changed* that...we'll see.

When I hear from Silva's lips that he's homesick, then I'll worry.

 

[Nandito]

Now that you've taken exception to his tone, care to actually address the content of his post?

Cristiano:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/cristiano-ronaldo/4060606/Cristiano-Ronaldo-I-want-to-stay-at-Manchester-United.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... nited.html</a>

Cristiano some months later:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/24/cristiano-ronaldo-staying-manchester-united" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ter-united</a>

Cesc,last summer :
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/06/24/cesc-fabregas-confirms-he-wants-to-stay-at-arsenal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/06/24 ... t-arsenal/</a>

Kaka:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/615372-kaka-plans-to-stay-in-milan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/6 ... y-in-milan</a>

Kun:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.laschivasrayadas.com.mx/portada_marca_kun_aguero-fotos_de_chivas_guadalajara-igfpo-3119878.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.laschivasrayadas.com.mx/port ... 119878.htm</a>

Figo:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/teams/portugal/794954.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/tea ... 794954.stm</a>

Nasri:
<a class="postlink" href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/917700/samir-nasri-wants-to-stay-at-arsenal---agent?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... nt?cc=5739</a>

They are only some examples...As I said some posts ago not all the players are loyal, some of them move because of money, new motivations, to be near family, problems with coach,etc. I don´t trust in those interviews in the middle of the season in Club TV, in Madrid they are all the time saying rubbish that nobody believes (even Pepe apologized once!! :D )

I don't trust in one persons bias reasoning that cherry picks info to seemingly give their pov more validity :)

Each to their own though eh.

he told me to "adress the content of his post"; If i understood well that is to refute his arguments. The info is to explain the lack of loyalty of some players, that´s all. My comment has full validity for me :), of course you can think different

 

[Blue Haze]

Why are you arguing with this concern troll?

If David wishes to return to Spain at some point, I will wish him the best. Doesn't concern me though. Nothing will stop us from buying the next Silva, or even the next 5. It will only get easier as Spain sinks toward ruin like Ireland and Greece.

Silva hasn't said anything about leaving City, so this discussion is more pointless than the Toure thread.

 

[Nandito]

Its pretty simple.

Silva is a City player. He says that he doesnt want to return to Spain and is happier in England, noting his excellent relationship with our manager and our club. We are in no need of money or any of your players more than we are Silva.

You can wum as much as you like fella, hes staying here

The translation of "wum" doesn´t look good. being a moderator you should be saying that to nobody and even less in the transfer section where there are lots of speculation and news changing every day. Fairness is very important in a moderator. I imagine that your task is to prevent abuse and get that the rules of the forum are followed.However saying "wum" it seems that only one type of opinion is allowed. As you said I will continue doing it as much as I like, don´t worry, will be only good links..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUlvcFZCcWuRpbVdIU2s&david-silva-golazo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUl ... lva-golazo</a>

Not that I mind watching that goal again (or any Silva vids for that matter, that Cuatro vid made me chuckle) but what's your point? We know Silva's amazing, that other teams want him. RM is just 1 of many now.

And I agree with that Cadena Ser article you linked-it's close to impossible for RM. 1) Is Mourinho really going to admit he made mistakes re: Kaka and Silva? Madrid *had* Silva and then rejected him yet again. 2) Think he will go to play behind Ozil when Silva is the *main* playmaker under Mancini??
Answer: NO and nooooooo. Just because he's shy doesn't mean he doesn't have pride/an ego.

But if you have links to RM forums, I'd like them, even 1's in Spanish. You say that it's Perez/Madrid fans > Mourinho that want Silva, but the comments from that Cadena Ser are mixed: RM only want Portuguese, they lost their chance, Silva's better off in Eng-he'd get lost in RM, etc etc.

As for players moving, like you've said, they change their minds for various reasons, loyalty out the door. But there's something to be said about the unexplored, being pioneers. Silva and Aguero are/will be legends b/c they were a big part of a team that brought the FA Cup (Silva) and the PL trophy to MC. *Maybe* they did start out thinking "a few yrs in Eng then back to Spain". Maybe this experience has *changed* that...we'll see.

When I hear from Silva's lips that he's homesick, then I'll worry.

Yes, You are right, is hard that they can play together, we and many madridistas are too naive believing that Mou can play without someone deffensive next to Alonso...
Of course England has changed the career of both, Silva and Kun. In the madrid forums you can find many "madridistas taliban", who think that everything that mourinho thinks is ok and some of them (me included) that don´t want him in Madrid ( Jorge Mendes is the real boss in club, to pay 30 million for Coentrao and refuse David, to try to take out the captaincy to Iker, to mess the image of club puting the finger in the eye to vilanova, agresive futbol, a little portuguese clan leaving spanish in the corner, ignore the youth team that gave so many good players...).

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.corazonblanco.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.corazonblanco.com</a> is quite popular , i also would recommend you to write in <a class="postlink" href="http://www.marca.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.marca.com</a> , there are plenty of messages from different clubs and is more funny.

 

[richards30]

The translation of "wum" doesn´t look good. being a moderator you should be saying that to nobody and even less in the transfer section where there are lots of speculation and news changing every day. Fairness is very important in a moderator. I imagine that your task is to prevent abuse and get that the rules of the forum are followed.However saying "wum" it seems that only one type of opinion is allowed. As you said I will continue doing it as much as I like, don´t worry, will be only good links..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUlvcFZCcWuRpbVdIU2s&david-silva-golazo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUl ... lva-golazo</a>

Not that I mind watching that goal again (or any Silva vids for that matter, that Cuatro vid made me chuckle) but what's your point? We know Silva's amazing, that other teams want him. RM is just 1 of many now.

And I agree with that Cadena Ser article you linked-it's close to impossible for RM. 1) Is Mourinho really going to admit he made mistakes re: Kaka and Silva? Madrid *had* Silva and then rejected him yet again. 2) Think he will go to play behind Ozil when Silva is the *main* playmaker under Mancini??
Answer: NO and nooooooo. Just because he's shy doesn't mean he doesn't have pride/an ego.

But if you have links to RM forums, I'd like them, even 1's in Spanish. You say that it's Perez/Madrid fans > Mourinho that want Silva, but the comments from that Cadena Ser are mixed: RM only want Portuguese, they lost their chance, Silva's better off in Eng-he'd get lost in RM, etc etc.

As for players moving, like you've said, they change their minds for various reasons, loyalty out the door. But there's something to be said about the unexplored, being pioneers. Silva and Aguero are/will be legends b/c they were a big part of a team that brought the FA Cup (Silva) and the PL trophy to MC. *Maybe* they did start out thinking "a few yrs in Eng then back to Spain". Maybe this experience has *changed* that...we'll see.

When I hear from Silva's lips that he's homesick, then I'll worry.

Yes, You are right, is hard that they can play together, we and many madridistas are too naive believing that Mou can play without someone deffensive next to Alonso...
Of course England has changed the career of both, Silva and Kun. In the madrid forums you can find many "madridistas taliban", who think that everything that mourinho thinks is ok and some of them (me included) that don´t want him in Madrid ( Jorge Mendes is the real boss in club, to pay 30 million for Coentrao and refuse David, to try to take out the captaincy to Iker, to mess the image of club puting the finger in the eye to vilanova, agresive futbol, a little portuguese clan leaving spanish in the corner, ignore the youth team that gave so many good players...).

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.corazonblanco.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.corazonblanco.com</a> is quite popular , i also would recommend you to write in <a class="postlink" href="http://www.marca.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.marca.com</a> , there are plenty of messages from different clubs and is more funny.

why do you persist in this bullshit??? real are in the fucking shit mate!!! you should be more scared if we come knocking for the greasy haired one!! we are not lickle old city anymore! we dont need the money and we dont get bullied by the so called big boys anymore!!

 

[adrianr]

Where's that Mesut character gone? The one that was 100% convinced Silva would be a Madrid player this summer as some sort of fucking gift to the president or some shit? Wonder if he's still as confident?

 

[levets]

Now that you've taken exception to his tone, care to actually address the content of his post?

Cristiano:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/cristiano-ronaldo/4060606/Cristiano-Ronaldo-I-want-to-stay-at-Manchester-United.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... nited.html</a>

Cristiano some months later:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/24/cristiano-ronaldo-staying-manchester-united" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009 ... ter-united</a>

Cesc,last summer :
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/06/24/cesc-fabregas-confirms-he-wants-to-stay-at-arsenal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/06/24 ... t-arsenal/</a>

Kaka:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/615372-kaka-plans-to-stay-in-milan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/6 ... y-in-milan</a>

Kun:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.laschivasrayadas.com.mx/portada_marca_kun_aguero-fotos_de_chivas_guadalajara-igfpo-3119878.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.laschivasrayadas.com.mx/port ... 119878.htm</a>

Figo:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/teams/portugal/794954.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/euro2000/tea ... 794954.stm</a>

Nasri:
<a class="postlink" href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/917700/samir-nasri-wants-to-stay-at-arsenal---agent?cc=5739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... nt?cc=5739</a>

They are only some examples...As I said some posts ago not all the players are loyal, some of them move because of money, new motivations, to be near family, problems with coach,etc. I don´t trust in those interviews in the middle of the season in Club TV, in Madrid they are all the time saying rubbish that nobody believes (even Pepe apologized once!! :D )

In my opinion, David Silva is the best creative midfielder in the world, and Kun Aguero is the best striker. If either of them are playing at Real Madrid next season I will eat my hat. It's about time you got used to the new kid in town, because he's got more weight than you could ever have.

Love it!!! About time they realised that 'we' call the shots now... this is not the 'little City' they remember... this is the new powerful City. So powerful that we can skew the transfer market to determine 'who gets whom'

 

[Joehannes]

The translation of "wum" doesn´t look good. being a moderator you should be saying that to nobody and even less in the transfer section where there are lots of speculation and news changing every day. Fairness is very important in a moderator. I imagine that your task is to prevent abuse and get that the rules of the forum are followed.However saying "wum" it seems that only one type of opinion is allowed. As you said I will continue doing it as much as I like, don´t worry, will be only good links..
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUlvcFZCcWuRpbVdIU2s&david-silva-golazo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vidoevo.com/yvideo.php?i=eUl ... lva-golazo</a>

Not that I mind watching that goal again (or any Silva vids for that matter, that Cuatro vid made me chuckle) but what's your point? We know Silva's amazing, that other teams want him. RM is just 1 of many now.

And I agree with that Cadena Ser article you linked-it's close to impossible for RM. 1) Is Mourinho really going to admit he made mistakes re: Kaka and Silva? Madrid *had* Silva and then rejected him yet again. 2) Think he will go to play behind Ozil when Silva is the *main* playmaker under Mancini??
Answer: NO and nooooooo. Just because he's shy doesn't mean he doesn't have pride/an ego.

But if you have links to RM forums, I'd like them, even 1's in Spanish. You say that it's Perez/Madrid fans > Mourinho that want Silva, but the comments from that Cadena Ser are mixed: RM only want Portuguese, they lost their chance, Silva's better off in Eng-he'd get lost in RM, etc etc.

As for players moving, like you've said, they change their minds for various reasons, loyalty out the door. But there's something to be said about the unexplored, being pioneers. Silva and Aguero are/will be legends b/c they were a big part of a team that brought the FA Cup (Silva) and the PL trophy to MC. *Maybe* they did start out thinking "a few yrs in Eng then back to Spain". Maybe this experience has *changed* that...we'll see.

When I hear from Silva's lips that he's homesick, then I'll worry.

Yes, You are right, is hard that they can play together, we and many madridistas are too naive believing that Mou can play without someone deffensive next to Alonso...
Of course England has changed the career of both, Silva and Kun. In the madrid forums you can find many "madridistas taliban", who think that everything that mourinho thinks is ok and some of them (me included) that don´t want him in Madrid ( Jorge Mendes is the real boss in club, to pay 30 million for Coentrao and refuse David, to try to take out the captaincy to Iker, to mess the image of club puting the finger in the eye to vilanova, agresive futbol, a little portuguese clan leaving spanish in the corner, ignore the youth team that gave so many good players...).

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.corazonblanco.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.corazonblanco.com</a> is quite popular , i also would recommend you to write in <a class="postlink" href="http://www.marca.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.marca.com</a> , there are plenty of messages from different clubs and is more funny.

Thanks for Pozo by the way mate.