David Silva

He was absolutely amazing for us the first 8 games this season and then got a bad injury, was still very decent in spite of that. Confident he will be back to his best next season and he plays better with better players around him.
 
The ankle problems go back to the days of Mancini. If it were only a question of rest it would have been sorted out long ago. I agree with worselyweb. He was amazing at the start of last season. Thereafter he was below his incredible best but usually not hopeless.
 
Footballers have, from their point of view, lamentably short careers that are a single bad tackle away from being brutally terminated.

They cannot be criticised for trying to squeeze every last drop from the experience. To fail to appreciate this, is to fail to understand human nature.
 
pardoeofftomexico said:
It may not be as important to you. You may think City winning the premier league should be more important to a player than his country winning the World Cup or European Championships. I honestly don't think that is the case with the players.
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I don't think that we can use broad brushstrokes and say that either or is important to all players. My point is simply that no matter what personal satisfaction they take from international success, their job is with the clubs they are contracted to. That's who pays the wages, gives the platform for international recognition etc. So players in general should show a little more respect to their clubs.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Footballers have, from their point of view, lamentably short careers that are a single bad tackle away from being brutally terminated.

They cannot be criticised for trying to squeeze every last drop from the experience. To fail to appreciate this, is to fail to understand human nature.
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I appreciate that, but you must appreciate that precisely because they are one bad tackle away from it all being over, that they should probably pay a little more heed as they get older to what's best for their long term as well as short term future. Of course going to play at the Euros is a great experience for Silva. But baring in mind he's won a world cup and two euros already for Spain, but has no CL winners medal, there's surely some sense in trying to achieve what he hasn't achieved and prolonging his club career rather than going to experience a tournament he's won twice.
 
BillyShears said:
I appreciate that, but you must appreciate that precisely because they are one bad tackle away from it all being over, that they should probably pay a little more heed as they get older to what's best for their long term as well as short term future. Of course going to play at the Euros is a great experience for Silva. But baring in mind he's won a world cup and two euros already for Spain, but has no CL winners medal, there's surely some sense in trying to achieve what he hasn't achieved and prolonging his club career rather than going to experience a tournament he's won twice.
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For all he knows, he could ditch the Euros then find himself on the bench at City.

It's not realistic to expect him to miss the tournament.
 
BillyShears said:
I don't think that we can use broad brushstrokes and say that either or is important to all players. My point is simply that no matter what personal satisfaction they take from international success, their job is with the clubs they are contracted to. That's who pays the wages, gives the platform for international recognition etc. So players in general should show a little more respect to their clubs.
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I know, through my son, many international contestants in many sports and I am confident to use a broad brushstroke to say that international recognition is very important to most sports people. Of course, as you will rightly say, football is different in that another party are paying very substantial wages. Having said that do you know that City don't want him to appear for Spain? Clubs should normally be pleased when their players are selected in that it raises the profile of the player and the club. If he were to withdraw and Spain were to win the Euro's then he would regret missing out on that.
 
Strange opening post. It's almost as if Silva single handedly turned an average team into Champions. The line about Bony is just bizarre as well.

The fact is that people will make their minds up and form opinions on what is happening right now. The fact is that Silva didn't cut it last season. Another 6 months like that and his fate could be sealed as much as we all love him.
 
Most overrated player in City's history scored one important goal in the whole time he as been here ( Arsenal at home 1-0 )

I have kept my mouth shut on him on this and previous threads for months but it's plain embassing how the fuck is the best player ever 2 wear the City shirt .

Yaya Toure as won us leagues and cups on his own .

Really hope Pep fucks him off as all he does his slow everything down , his best game 4 us was against Hull away when we won 2 0

Gio , now he could play and could even go past a man and actually pass it forward .

Enjoy your bank holiday Sunday everyone
 
BillyShears said:
I don't think that we can use broad brushstrokes and say that either or is important to all players. My point is simply that no matter what personal satisfaction they take from international success, their job is with the clubs they are contracted to. That's who pays the wages, gives the platform for international recognition etc. So players in general should show a little more respect to their clubs.
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I think it's not just personal satisfaction though. Maybe it has something to do with the culture, but personally I believe if you have that ability, why not try your best to repay and bring more happiness to your country? Clubs pay the wages, but does wages alone mean that players have to sacrifice everything for the clubs, when the clubs sometimes give me a feeling that they treat players as nothing more than robots? And do all the players ask for that much money in the first place? This, the whole putting club before country regardless of the situation, is one of the many things in football which goes wrong.

But then this is just my personal opinion. You can disagree of course, though one thing that irks me a lot is the self-righteous approach you take on players. Don't mean to offend, but sometimes it gives me a vibe that players are to you nothing more than assets for the clubs. While players should treat the club with respect, which I think most of them do, is it too much to ask for treating them as fellow human being with a bit more respect, consideration and appreciation?

Btw, check the comments from VDB and the videos from spain nt. You'll see why it's not that unacceptable for him to go to the Euros.:)
 
Went off at half time...anyone know if injury or just keep him fresh for the euros? cheers

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David Silva is subbed off for Pedro at HT on his return from injury.

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He's the best player I've ever seen for us, but we're now in the lucky position where it's not absolutely essential that he plays every game, because KDB is a more than capable replacement. I hope they give him as much time as he needs to come back 100%.
 
Walking on the blue moon said:
I think it's not just personal satisfaction though. Maybe it has something to do with the culture, but personally I believe if you have that ability, why not try your best to repay and bring more happiness to your country? Clubs pay the wages, but does wages alone mean that players have to sacrifice everything for the clubs, when the clubs sometimes give me a feeling that they treat players as nothing more than robots? And do all the players ask for that much money in the first place? This, the whole putting club before country regardless of the situation, is one of the many things in football which goes wrong.
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I don't think it's black and white in the way you describe. I'm not suggesting that every footballer give up their international ambitions, merely that they all respect their clubs too. Personally I think there's no more frustrating an injury for a football club than one picked up on international duty. So the players should have a duty of care to know their bodies and know when it might be pushing it to play throughout the summer after a long season. It all seems entirely reasonable to me. There shouldn't be a blanket "they're called up they must go" just as there shouldn't be a blanket "clubs before country always". Just a bit of common sense and discretion.

But then this is just my personal opinion. You can disagree of course, though one thing that irks me a lot is the self-righteous approach you take on players. Don't mean to offend, but sometimes it gives me a vibe that players are to you nothing more than assets for the clubs. While players should treat the club with respect, which I think most of them do, is it too much to ask for treating them as fellow human being with a bit more respect, consideration and appreciation?
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I'm a bit lost with this paragraph. I don't take one approach with the players. I try and take every situation as I find it. Silva and Vinny both find themselves going into a summer after an injury riddled season at a time when a new broom is about to sweep through the whole club. My original point which I don't think is particularly controversial, is that Silva should probably have taken the summer off to give him the best possible chance of being a part of Guardiola's plans. He's chosen not to do that, which is his prerogative. I'm not going to applaud him for it when his season was so abject and his performances were so far short of the standards that he set.
 
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