Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

[LancashireBlue]

Still?

Pep was back in Munich like a 1.5 years ago and met Hoeness for lunch while he was in town.

 

[mikemcfc]

a little history, and Sane by far would be our biggest sale. this is just one reason why we may not get what he is worth.

I'm saying cus we are rich we get forced to overpay for coveted players, and in the same vane teams offer us less knowing because of ffp we need players off the balance sheet as apposed to a pile of equity sitting on the bench. or wait til contracts expire and we get nothing, ball is in their court.

the most we have sold players for is about 25 million. twice, Kelechi Iheanacho and Negredo
we have payed more than 25 million 23 times,
and 24 million for Gundy, Nasri, and Lescott.
it looks like we tend to use players up and flog them off, Sane of course is all upside and would be our most ever obviously commanding a premium amount, 4x more if we got the numbers being floated around, IF he leave's, hope not.

i will provide the link so you can see what we've gotten compared to what we've paid for guys, or whatever.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-city/alletransfers/verein/281

 

[mikemcfc]

Heard from someone today that the club are more optimistic about both Gundogan and Sane staying and signing new deals over summer. Hopefully true, would be gutted to lose either of them, but particularly Sane.

"Heard from someone"
oh no, now don't you start....
;)

 

[kaz7]

a little history, and Sane by far would be our biggest sale. this is just one reason why we may not get what he is worth.

I'm saying cus we are rich we get forced to overpay for coveted players, and in the same vane teams offer us less knowing because of ffp we need players off the balance sheet as apposed to a pile of equity sitting on the bench. or wait til contracts expire and we get nothing, ball is in their court.

the most we have sold players for is about 25 million. twice, Kelechi Iheanacho and Negredo
we have payed more than 25 million 23 times,
and 24 million for Gundy, Nasri, and Lescott.
it looks like we tend to use players up and flog them off, Sane of course is all upside and should command a premium amount, IF he leave's, hope not.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-city/alletransfers/verein/281

We don't sell our best players,if we lose sane he will be the first big player in a decade,it's a deliberate policy that we let players who have commited to us for their best years to wind down and leave,they don't go to direct rivals and are usually over 30

 

[Corky]

Turning into the signing Sanchez thread. Soon it will be we didn't want him anyway.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Heard from someone today that the club are more optimistic about both Gundogan and Sane staying and signing new deals over summer. Hopefully true, would be gutted to lose either of them, but particularly Sane.

Was it someone ‘in the know’ ;-) ;-)

 

[mikemcfc]

We don't sell our best players,if we lose sane he will be the first big player in a decade,it's a deliberate policy that we let players who have commited to us for their best years to wind down and leave,they don't go to direct rivals and are usually over 30

yes, i basically said that,

 

[Tevez City]

a little history, and Sane by far would be our biggest sale. this is just one reason why we may not get what he is worth.

I'm saying cus we are rich we get forced to overpay for coveted players, and in the same vane teams offer us less knowing because of ffp we need players off the balance sheet as apposed to a pile of equity sitting on the bench. or wait til contracts expire and we get nothing, ball is in their court.

the most we have sold players for is about 25 million. twice, Kelechi Iheanacho and Negredo
we have payed more than 25 million 23 times,
and 24 million for Gundy, Nasri, and Lescott.
it looks like we tend to use players up and flog them off, Sane of course is all upside and would be our most ever obviously commanding a premium amount, 4x more if we got the numbers being floated around, IF he leave's, hope not.

i will provide the link so you can see what we've gotten compared to what we've paid for guys, or whatever.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/manchester-city/alletransfers/verein/281

I don't agree on this part, being rich doesn't mean you have to be fool.

He has 2 years left, and a lots of things can change during 2 years. IF he isn't happy being on the bench thats fine, let him be unhappy for a while and then he will get his chance and shine again.

Mahrez was unhappy since he missed the penalty against Liverpool until the last league game of the season.

 

[mikemcfc]

Once more, slowly this time ;-)

............CB............CB
....RB............DM............LB
...........RM...........LM
....RW............CF.............LW

And, if you can’t see that KDB is a preferred R(A)M, then I can’t help you. Yes, Bernardo plays out on the RW, as he also PREFERS the right side and cutting in on his left peg, but when KDB comes on, if Bernardo was playing RM, he shifts to LM.

As just the most recent example, look at the series of Wembley subs and who moved where when.

i get what your saying.
you just moved the outside backs up a notch on paper, ok, of course they play up the flanks ahead of the cb's. I said that in my post.
your switch thing, i don't always see that, with ferny in the side like my post was about, and fernandinho didnt play at wembley.
but I don't doubt that sometimes happens.
i do see very good players taking up the best possible positions in a fluid transition of reading the game. like i also said.
anyways, my point was that, regardless of where players are from time to time,
I agree with Pep, Sane doesn't start.

 

[mikemcfc]

I don't agree on this part, being rich doesn't mean you have to be fool.

He has 2 years left, and a lots of things can change during 2 years. IF he isn't happy being on the bench thats fine, let him be unhappy for a while and then he will get his chance and shine again.

Mahrez was unhappy since he missed the penalty against Liverpool until the last league game of the season.

of course you shouldn't be a fool, I merely stated what's happened in the past, as for the rest of your post, no one's arguing that.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

All the talk is Beyern for obvious reasons i hope he signs a new deal but if he does not put him up for sale and watch Real gazump em £120 million starters, Real new manager need marque signings need a new left winger, and will not let a rival pick up a great player cheap

 

[kinky's boots]

you had
Ideally, with what we have today, I’d like to see

KDB.......FERNANDINHO.....BERNARDO
STERLING.....AGUERO.............SANÉ


bernardo plays primarily on the right, and does his best work there.
for that reason my preferred setup wouldn't include sane to start at this time,

-----------------edo-----------------------
Danilo---stones----laporte---zinchenko
---------------fernandinho-----------------
---berny------------------------merlin------
-------------------KDB------------------------
-------sterling------------aguero-----------

like you eluded to some of Sane's shortcomings, these guys are all better on the ball and read the space and game better.
our outside backs do a nice job down the flanks attacking and as long as our centerbacks stay responsible we are not too open to the counter,
at least until other teams improve or get better at adapting.
the Danilo pick could be up for debate, but for me although Walker's a good defender, his two left feet and attack play are lacking.

Is that a diamond in midfield?? You are Glenn Hoddle, and I claim my £20

 

[mosssideblue]

David Silva:

De Bruyne B Silva
Sterling Aguero Sane​

Would be my front 5

I would suggest that would weaken us as Bernardo has proven to be far stronger on the wing and Sterling on the left.
And about his strops?

I am not knocking Sane as he is a fantastic player, but he does have issues of temperament and simply juggling the pack to accommodate him is not what I suspect Pep would be keen to do, even if fans think he should

 

[razman]

Sign the extension boys !

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Here's the thing. I think a lot of us think that Sané is unpredictable in a way that nobody else in that front line is. He can be having an average to downright poor match, and then do something absolutely astonishing which probably nobody else could have done. It can lead to a goal scoring chance, or simply a goal (to an extent this is, and always has been, true of Kun as well, although Kun has developed admirably over the last two seasons).
His unpredictability, from Pep's point of view, is his weakness. But it's ambivalent — it's also his strength. Work rate, that kind of thing, that can be instilled in him at the age he's at (incidentally, most matches that he was brought on late this season, I saw him haring back down his line to harry and/or tackle the opposition, so the idea that he is just ‘lazy’ doesn't wash with me). But what he can do cannot be instilled, cannot be learnt. If he goes, he goes. City will go on, we'll win trophies and we'll have great players. But make no mistake, Leroy's departure will the loss of an x-factor in that attack that, on its day, is incredibly exciting to watch.

 

[bluemoon32]

Here's the thing. I think a lot of us think that Sané is unpredictable in a way that nobody else in that front line is. He can be having an average to downright poor match, and then do something absolutely astonishing which probably nobody else could have done. It can lead to a goal scoring chance, or simply a goal (to an extent this is, and always has been, true of Kun as well, although Kun has developed admirably over the last two seasons).
His unpredictability, from Pep's point of view, is his weakness. But it's ambivalent — it's also his strength. Work rate, that kind of thing, that can be instilled in him at the age he's at (incidentally, most matches that he was brought on late this season, I saw him haring back down his line to harry and/or tackle the opposition, so the idea that he is just ‘lazy’ doesn't wash with me). But what he can do cannot be instilled, cannot be learnt. If he goes, he goes. City will go on, we'll win trophies and we'll have great players. But make no mistake, Leroy's departure will the loss of an x-factor in that attack that, on its day, is incredibly exciting to watch.

Well said

 

[Nascent Blues]

Here's the thing. I think a lot of us think that Sané is unpredictable in a way that nobody else in that front line is. He can be having an average to downright poor match, and then do something absolutely astonishing which probably nobody else could have done. It can lead to a goal scoring chance, or simply a goal (to an extent this is, and always has been, true of Kun as well, although Kun has developed admirably over the last two seasons).
His unpredictability, from Pep's point of view, is his weakness. But it's ambivalent — it's also his strength. Work rate, that kind of thing, that can be instilled in him at the age he's at (incidentally, most matches that he was brought on late this season, I saw him haring back down his line to harry and/or tackle the opposition, so the idea that he is just ‘lazy’ doesn't wash with me). But what he can do cannot be instilled, cannot be learnt. If he goes, he goes. City will go on, we'll win trophies and we'll have great players. But make no mistake, Leroy's departure will the loss of an x-factor in that attack that, on its day, is incredibly exciting to watch.

But that loss of an x-factor could be replaced by the x-factor of another player?

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Maybe.
Possibly…

But we've got a man right here, right now, who's got it in his locker. He showed that, amply, in the 17-18 season. I simply rely on the club to do everything possible (short of guaranteeing him a place in the starting line-up, which Pep would never, ever do) to convince him that he's got a huge future with us. If he wants to walk away, well then, it happens.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Wouldn't trade him for anyone in world football.

 

[Manchester1894]

Sane keeps getting potentially suggested as a future worlds best or balon dor winner. He simply doesn't work hard enough. He doesn't concentrate enough. That's why at City he's behind Sterling and Bernardo and why in the last few important games of the season Pep has also turned to Mahrez. They all work harder. Talent isn't enough to get him there. For two pre-seasons now, he's pissed Pep off with attiutude or fitness (some may say both). This season was meant to be the wake-up call after becoming a dad and he's not regressed, he simply hasn't progressed. Our squad doesn't stand still. Everyone works hard, everyone improves. If you don't improve you always have a chance if you work hard (See Kyle/Gundogan who've not been at their peak this season but you never question their effort).

City still trust him to listen and improve and a contract is waiting to be signed. I think Sane will sign, but that might be with a clause in the contract. £150m should be fair.