Deal agreed with Bayern Munich for Leroy Sane - €60m (including add-ons)

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

Always had the feeling that he's found it hard going here in England, personally that is. Reckon he'll be happier back home and that's why he's most probably off.

 

[Maldeika]

I mentioned Kroos with a reason. He is one of endemic kind of German players who was not blinded by Bayern status there and decided to prove himself at bigger club. And made a great decision.

No. That is bullocks. If Bayern would have fulfilled his wage demands he would have stayed. But at that time he was not in the position as the midfield was packed - injuries changed that. Problem might have been the wages they paid Götze, but the contract story with Kroos started autumn 2012. But one of the reasons why they did not make a higher offer later might have been that he never had the connection to the club that others had. And, even if that sounds trivial, not having the guts too shoot that penalty in the CL final was a handicap for that, too, and later that we won the CL in 2013 in the eyes of many because he got injured.

For Kroos the transfer was good. Even if he still did not get a defensive sense he might have needed that step for his development.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Sane is real dynamic and direct. He is probably the best at finishing on a break for us. I think the problem with him that Pep didn't like was that he had trouble holding on to the ball. When the right sided CB pinged the ball to him he had trouble picking it out of the air and holding on to it. The ball would either go out of bounds or he'd lose it. It probably frustrated Pep.
Pep also probably realizes that when Sane was in the team, only a handful of teams will press high. Teams don't want him getting behind. More and more teams have been dropping off and playing with a back 5 and just try to counter. I think he figures he can find other players and other ways to play.

Good post I think. That's how I see it as well.

After teams saw a few of those wonderful KDB diagonal sweeping through balls to Sane rampaging down the left (especially in the 2017/18 winning season), they thought sod that for a strategy and with one or two exceptions have sat back and defended for 90 minutes. so Sane has since not had much space to do what he does best.

 

[Whether or not]

I think a few people are looking for something that isn’t there in this situation. The reason that Pep is so good is that he really challenges players to improve and fulfil potential. Leroy has been so challenged and despite his huge talent, he has decided to be a big fish in a small pool instead. Not a row, just a bit of a disappointing attitude. Fair enough, get a more ambitious replacement and move on.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

You've clearly interpreted whatever I said in completely the wrong way because I'm in complete agreement with you on Pep; I think he's doing everything he knows to try and get the best out of Sane, that's just what Pep does, that's what he loves to do.

It's all hypothetical but as Sterling has seemingly taken it all onboard and improved beyond what I think any of us could ever have imagined, Sane hasn't necessarily seen Pep's tough love in the same way. We don't know how much of an impact getting left out of the Germany squad had for example, he may well blame Pep for that or he may just think he's not good enough to win a place in the team, so might as well leave and try his luck elsewhere. We just don't know, it's all guesswork but I certainly don't blame Pep and until we have more facts (which we may never get) it's impossible to blame Sane as far as I'm concerned.

Hi, sorry if I got the wrong end of your post.

 

[franksinatra]

You've clearly interpreted whatever I said in completely the wrong way because I'm in complete agreement with you on Pep; I think he's doing everything he knows to try and get the best out of Sane, that's just what Pep does, that's what he loves to do.

It's all hypothetical but as Sterling has seemingly taken it all onboard and improved beyond what I think any of us could ever have imagined, Sane hasn't necessarily seen Pep's tough love in the same way. We don't know how much of an impact getting left out of the Germany squad had for example, he may well blame Pep for that or he may just think he's not good enough to win a place in the team, so might as well leave and try his luck elsewhere. We just don't know, it's all guesswork but I certainly don't blame Pep and until we have more facts (which we may never get) it's impossible to blame Sane as far as I'm concerned.

Exactly, people look for blame but often both parties have valid reasons for the decisions they made.

If Same does leave part of the decision-process would probably be moving closer to family with a new born child, back in a society he grew up in and possibly a lack of playing time under Pep may have convinced. All valid reasons but does not mean Pep is to blame or Sane for that matter. You make decisions for your own personal situation, Sane for himself, and Pep for Manchester City.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Unfortunately for Sane and our fans , its Pep's way or the highway , its obvious Pep and Sane have not seen eye to eye in my opinion , hence the club hasnt pushed the boat out with a contract offer to match the likes of KDB and Sterling. If Pep 100% believed in the player then he would have suggested to the club to make an offer Sane couldnt refuse , we havent done that.
Sane has shown petulance and arrogance at times but that is also the mark of some of the greatest players , lets not kid ourselves it will be a massive blow when he leaves , because he is destined to be a world class wide player with the right manager at the right club.
Would prefer the club to make him see out his contract than let him leave for the German Rags for buttons , he's the most direct winger we have , and the quickest i have seen in the Premier league for along time , he will be sorely missed , ive no axe to grind with Sane if he doesnt get on with the manager and wants a move , its not a slur on our club , thats football.

 

[ctid1894]

Exactly, people look for blame but often both parties have valid reasons for the decisions they made.

If Same does leave part of the decision-process would probably be moving closer to family with a new born child, back in a society he grew up in and possibly a lack of playing time under Pep may have convinced. All valid reasons but does not mean Pep is to blame or Sane for that matter. You make decisions for your own personal situation, Sane for himself, and Pep for Manchester City.

It's indicative of our society, some people always need someone/something to blame to vent their personal anger and frustration towards.

 

[franksinatra]

It's indicative of our society, some people always need someone/something to blame to vent their personal anger and frustration towards.

That is very true, every thing in life now is broken down into for and against, good or bad, right or wrong, but life is a lot more complex than that. Sane will make the best decision for himself, it does not necessarily equate to being lazy, greedy, lacking ambition, desire just a combination of reasons why he thinks moving on his best for him.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

That is very true, every thing in life now is broken down into for and against, good or bad, right or wrong, but life is a lot more complex than that. Sane will make the best decision for himself, it does not necessarily equate to being lazy, greedy, lacking ambition, desire just a combination of reasons why he thinks moving on his best for him.

Out of interest @franksinatra , how do you feel about Bayern's role in this saga ?