Death Penalty

[bernabias home shirt]

100% for the death penalty in fully conclusive cases and those involved in multiple murders. Thugs like that Dale Cregan in my opinion do not deserve to be alive and also he does not deserve my money or the effort required to feed him and keep him alive.

So you would have no problem if it was your son/daughter/father who was abt to be murdered by the state
If given the death penalty?

 

[Aphex]

If in a democracy the majority want to have the ultimate penalty for Murder why should they have to go and live anywhere else the way to end threads like this would be put it to the British Population and abide by the result, assuming this Country is a democracy of course.

Spot on.

As has been stated previously in the thread, to be members of the EU, no member state can have the Death Penalty.

So it's not going to happen.

Yes, and I've already stated what I think of the EU.

 

[tidyman]

100% for the death penalty in fully conclusive cases.

This argument is as repetitive as it is ridiculous.

ALL convictions are fully conclusive at the time. Or at least conclusive beyond all reasonable doubt.

Stefan Kiszko was just as guilty as Dale Cregan at the time of his conviction.

 

[SWP's back]

If in a democracy the majority want to have the ultimate penalty for Murder why should they have to go and live anywhere else the way to end threads like this would be put it to the British Population and abide by the result, assuming this Country is a democracy of course.

Spot on.

As has been stated previously in the thread, to be members of the EU, no member state can have the Death Penalty.

So it's not going to happen.

Along with open borders and free movement of labour, the ECHR is the best thing about being in the EU.

 

[rick773]

There are lots of things a state can do that an individual can't (lawfully) - tax citizens, conscript citizens into the armed forces, imprison people, fine people, declare war, make treaties with other nations, make laws that are binding on citizens - the list goes on. So I don't buy the argument that capital punishment is equivalent to murder. If it is, fining someone for speeding is theft.

I am however persuaded by the argument that says it just isn't practicable. The law makes too many mistakes. Innocent people would end up being executed.

I do however think that most murderers - and certainly the likes of Hindley and Brady, to name but two - should stay inside until they die. And they should be made to work until they reach retirement age, at least eight hours a day. No work - OK mate, you get just enough food and drink to keep you alive, the same menu every day, and you stay in your cell 24/7/365.

Agree with all of this, and I am also against the death penalty.
It's interesting to hear that people think the death penalty is purely for 'Revenge,' yet are quite happy to say that life imprisonment with no parole, minimal facilities, stone beds, no windows, poor food etc; isn't.
Not that I've got a problem with this form of 'punishment' for the likes of the two walking abortions who subjected that little boy to such suffering, but the fact is that revenge is part of our psyche.

I actually agree with you about the revenge thing .but I think that's wrong and rehabilitation should be the goal even for murderers. Obviously there's some people beyond help but even then there should be something beyond just locking them up and forgetting about them.The Scandinavian countries that have "nice" prisons, short sentences , and do everything towards rehabilitation have the lowest recidivism rates and overall seem to be happier as a society. I remember when gacy was executed , it was in the town my family was living at the time and people went down to the prison to like celebrate his death. It wasn't a quiet sadness reflecting on his victims either , people ate hot dogs, drank Bacardi breezers, and sang songs rejoicing in his death, it was weird as hell , I was 9 when that happened and it felt fucked up and wrong .

 

[OB1]

The death penalty is inhumane.

 

[Hez]

If someone brutally murders a child and gets 15 years I'd be astonished.

Robert Thomson and John Venables did ok on that front! Don't think they even did 15 years did they?

So you would of killed them....?

No but they should have served a far longer sentence than they did and I'm dont they should be out to live their lives when they brutally took the life of little James.

 

[blueinsa]

It will never be brought back but yeah, modern forensic science and proven guilt should mean a swift end for society's vilest and sickest and a huge saving for the taxpayers.

 

[SWP's back]

Robert Thomson and John Venables did ok on that front! Don't think they even did 15 years did they?

So you would of killed them....?

No but they should have served a far longer sentence than they did and I'm dont they should be out to live their lives when they brutally took the life of little James.

So they don't really have anything to do with this discussion then?

 

[The Flash]

Spot on.

As has been stated previously in the thread, to be members of the EU, no member state can have the Death Penalty.

So it's not going to happen.

Yes, and I've already stated what I think of the EU.

Your opinion of the EU matters not a jot.

The fact remains that no member state can have the death penalty. Nor can laws be repealed that allow the death penalty to be re-introduced.