Declan Rice

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Well Rice was /is never worth £70m in my book so I'm pleased we havent gone in for him at £105m. For that kind of money you want a player that can really influence and turn games , a match winner on his own. I don't see that in Rice, much less so than what Jack had on show before he joined us. Jack is that now. Rice will never be imo.
Just need to off load Philips who just isnt cut out for Peps style of play.
 
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I wasn’t comparing them as players when they signed; I have compared their potential ceiling, though, which I always held was very high for Rodri, even in his first season (which I still maintain was not as poor as many make out), and far higher than Rice’s.

I think Rice is actually pretty close to his ceiling now, with even Pep only able to marginally improve him, if he does come. I don’t think he’ll ever be able to fill Rodri’s role, or even the different role Dinho played. His passing is incredibly limited, he isn’t a particularly gifted shooter, and his build play is never going to be to either’s level.

He is what I would call and old school DM, with a real engine and aggression. There’s obviously a place for that in a system built to accommodate that limited contribution, but that requires it being built with his limitations in mind—ones that did not exist with Ilkay, Dinho, Barry, or now Rodri.

Perhaps Pep thought he could do it, and I have no reason to doubt he could.

But I also don’t think missing out on Rice is the calamity some are painting it as.

Unlike Rodri, there are plenty of other players that offer what Rice does. Some of them are younger, and may even be in our academy now.

I personally think Kovacic is actually an overall better player and I am not sure Rice will ever even reach his level (in either skills or achievement), much less Rodri’s (or even Gareth Barry’s, who was widely undervalued).
Spot on. I’m pleased we walked away at that price. We could have got 4 Kovacics for the same money. That demonstrates just how mental that price is. I really don’t think he will improve Arsenal that much.
 
Rice is decent but not worth £100m. I don’t think he would’ve automatically even made it into our squad. How about de jong off Barca, always thought we should sign him. If he was English he’d probably be going for £100m as well

If he was English he would be $140m. De Jong is a dream to me to come in City. An amazing player that suits Pep's style, let's hope it will happen even though I do not have any hopes....
 
Of course, but that goes without saying, as the board will operate very differently when Pep does eventually leave.

So it’s really a moot point and fans feeling “Pep will make it work” is perfectly justified whilst he is here.

And it’s not as if all the players we bring in now are going to be lower quality for the future, anyway.

Txiki and co aren’t going to be employing Boehlyball—we are still bringing in excellent players, all the while developing arguably the best talent in the world in our Academy.

In fact, I think there is an argument that signings like Kovacic (older, role players) are now needed more than signings like Haaland (young phenoms), because we have some very talented youth coming through and there needs to be a real path to the first team that doesn’t take 4-5 years to realise for a 21 year-old player.

We very likely have our own Bellinghams coming through now.

And that was always the long term strategy to ensure sustainability and high achievement.
I think this Is more to do with letting Leipzig know we won't pay over the odds for a player, In a way to speed up the deal, could be wrong.
 
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