Declan Rice

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HelloCity said:
Everyone said the same about Walker, Stones and Sterling. They’ve all proven to be good value for money over the years.
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Agreed but I would say Sterling and Stones were not excessive fees for the talent the players had, Walker was but as you rightly say has proved a bargain.
 
Two years left on his contract in the summer. If he pushes for a move, I think it will happen (as reported to either, City, United or Chelsea). Fee will be around £90 I imagine.
 
FantasyIreland said:
He is anything but average,don't be silly.

There are shades of Gerrard about him,and at 23,he will improve and probably become the most complete midfielder in the league.

It will be a huge blow if he hugely improves Chelsea or the Rags.
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I only watch him when City played West Ham, and I don't remember him standing out , therefore I don't think he deserve the close to 100m valuation.
 
FantasyIreland said:
He is anything but average,don't be silly.

There are shades of Gerrard about him,and at 23,he will improve and probably become the most complete midfielder in the league.

It will be a huge blow if he hugely improves Chelsea or the Rags.
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Agree… Just to add; United have other areas they need to also address. They need a forward and they also need to strengthen their defence. They of course will need two CM’s, but due to other areas they need to strengthen, I am not convinced they have 90m to spend on one player. They’re not going to generate much in respect to outgoing sales.
 
FantasyIreland said:
He is anything but average,don't be silly.

There are shades of Gerrard about him,and at 23,he will improve and probably become the most complete midfielder in the league.

It will be a huge blow if he hugely improves Chelsea or the Rags.
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Isn’t he a completely different player to Gerrard?

Gerrard was an explosive central midfielder who drove the team forward. Excellent delivery and had a fantastic shot on him as well. He wasn’t actually well known for his discipline in terms of sitting in. Rice is closer to Rodri by comparison I’d say.
 
Rice would obviously offer good cover and actual competition for Rodri, is young and already an experienced England international. Just in terms of ability + him being homegrown, he is looks like the best Fernandinho replacement out there to me. If he would be willing to accept not being a certain starter and wants to come here, he would definitely improve the squad. Not that bothered if we pay 50m or 90m for Ferns replacement, doesnt really matter if he is here a decade, we are in a position where we can pay the extra to get the man we really want. With that said, we should obviously not pay more than we think he could be worth to us.
My guess however is that he would probably not want a squad role with his next move, and could prefer a move to a club who has a place for him in their starting XI. A move to us seems unlikely based on that + we are unlikely to spend that amount on a position thats not our main priority this window.

For me, a more realistic option would be Kalvin Phillips. 2 years left on his contract this summer as well, good age for a DM, English international and would probably accept being a squad player here. Already plays the position in a system similar to ours (but not at the same level obviously) so I imagine the adaption period to how we play would not be that long. When you combine that with him probably being considerably cheaper in a window our main outlay will be focused on another position, he might be a great option for us. A bit surprised there hasn't been more links between us and this guy, seems like the obvious move to me. Maybe our scouts dont think he has what it takes to succeed here, or have other options they prefer. If thats the case I guess we should trust them.
 
HelloCity said:
Isn’t he a completely different player to Gerrard?

Gerrard was an explosive central midfielder who drove the team forward. Excellent delivery and had a fantastic shot on him as well. He wasn’t actually well known for his discipline in terms of sitting in. Rice is closer to Rodri by comparison I’d say.
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No,i think the comparison is fair.He was initially more of a holding player due to his instincts to defend,but he is developing into a much more complete player.In recent games he has often made box to box runs,and looked dangerous on the attack - but that hasn't detracted from his holding abilities.

He has a wondeful engine,an even better attitude,and is adding more strings with experience.

In a team like ours,he would be superb.
 
I don't see City going for this. Rice isn't good enough on the ball to be a Pep type of player.
 
Vester said:
My guess however is that he would probably not want a squad role with his next move, and could prefer a move to a club who has a place for him in their starting XI.
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You’d be surprised by how players would want to join us regardless of guarantees
 
He's got the rag attitude of thinking he's made it already.

He's going there to be average on a big pay packet.
 
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BrazilianBlue (Gus) said:
You’d be surprised by how players would want to join us regardless of guarantees
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Doubt I would be surprised since I assume most would. Not everyone though, especially not when they are a boyhood fan of the current European champions and they can probably offer considerably more minutes than us. Not saying it cant happen, but with Rice in particular I feel its unlikely because of the several reasons I mentioned. Would happily be wrong and see him come here!
 
He really is a belting player and with the right coaching could become sensational. Likewise with the wrong move he could stagnate and not reach his potential. He has all the attributes but they need to be honed and you could have a real gem. He's calm and strong, he can run with the ball but also get back to provide defensive cover. His passing is good but could improve and that is hindered by his less capable team mates not offering suitable options. His finishing does need improving, both his head and feet. In short I think if he goes anywhere else than City then we will see him stagnate and we'll all be saying that was a bullet dodge when in fact if we buy him we'll be looking at a great in the making and be thinking he was a bargain.
 
Only see Rice coming in if Gundo moves tbh (I suspect two of the four coming up for contract renewal will go - Jesus is prob nailed on, then its Raz/Gundo/Mahrez).

Grealish/Silva/KDB/Rice
Rodri/Rice

as the mid 3 has some nice balance, bot sure i see them spending what it would take to get Rice here.
 
He would be the perfect replacement for Fernandinho, but City won't pay over £100m again surely?

They will likely look round for a player half the price, but just as good.
 
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