Declan Rice

[we are the east stand]

Give the lad a chance next season, he’s as blue as they come and you can be sure he’ll care more about being fit and ready for the shirt more than Phillips has shown so far.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Nurse...I've got one

You are Jimmy White and a claim my £10

 

[whipper]

Never a 100mil player.

Many have said that about Jack :)

 

[bluesince76]

So essentially guess work just like Eni then... Can't see the difference myself. :-)

1 - football team bids maximum they are willing to pay for a player they like and that they know is willing to join them
2 - Arteta rings Pep and asks if City wouldn't mind doing all the legals and due diligence to bid for a player they don't want, as that will convince Arsenal's board to place a higher bid for a player apparently only they are bidding for and we can therefore help out closest rival from last season to strengthen and we do it, despite it pushing the limits of legality and, I suspect, several PL rules.

Yep, no difference, toss a coin for which one of those is most likely

 

[we are the east stand]

Not good enough.

Based on what? Lavia was deemed not good enough last year not to be part of the squad and now it looks like all of the top 6 are interested in him including us.

These kids need to be given a chance in an around the squad for a season, they can’t be any worse than the likes of Philips or Gomez.

 

[Akira]

Meh, not bothered at all with Rice going to them. Didn't ever felt like we were 100% into this signing.

Good player no doubt, but a little way too overrated and overpriced IMO. With all that hype, you'd think Arsenal's trying to sign prime Iniesta.

 

[Cambo]

Many have said that about Jack :)

And they’d be right.

Jack was not worth 100m and neither is Rice. There’s a hefty England tax in those numbers. Like Jack though, there’s maybe other elements to the fee that we were prepared to pay and that the Arse are prepared to pay for Rice.

 

[not my fault!]

Give the lad a chance next season, he’s as blue as they come and you can be sure he’ll care more about being fit and ready for the shirt more than Phillips has shown so far.

I think he 100% needs a chance this coming season, as you say he bleeds blue.

 

[clarion]

Many have said that about Jack :)

Jack is also never a 100mil player. :)

 

[Blue and true]

Based on what? Lavia was deemed not good enough last year not to be part of the squad and now it looks like all of the top 6 are interested in him including us.

These kids need to be given a chance in an around the squad for a season, they can’t be any worse than the likes of Philips or Gomez.

Based on the fact he's been at Sheffield United on loan. Not the best of signs. And Lavia isn't good enough also. Players like Rodders are one of a kind but if we're to bring in a deputy the drop off in quality can't be as stark as a Doyle/Lavia.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

City have a value on all players.

They ascertain if the club wish to sell and whether the player wants to join.

City ensure that all the necessary details, and protocols are covered,including the payment terms.

City make an offer in confidence.

If its accepted they try to conclude the transaction as efficiently as possible.

If the offer is not accepted but a higher price is within City's value range a deal can be concluded.

If its higher than City's value they walk away and move on to another target.

City will have a fair idea of who their likely targets/replacements are for every in the the squad.

Business !!

 

[Tevez City]

Not good enough.

I am sure he has a chance to reach Kalvin Philips level one day.

 

[PragueBlue]

Jack is also never a 100mil player. :)

He is to the club though. An excellent player but also extremely marketable. When kids round here talk to me about City, it's always Grealish and Haaland they want to talk about.

Rice is a very good player but I suspect that he doesn't have anywhere near the same marketing value.

 

[dave_blue12]

And they’d be right.

Jack was not worth 100m and neither is Rice. There’s a hefty England tax in those numbers. Like Jack though, there’s maybe other elements to the fee that we were prepared to pay and that the Arse are prepared to pay for Rice.

Do we win the treble without Jack? Probably not.

The results say Jack was worth every penny.

Will Rice elevate Arse to win PL + ? Probably not but they gotta try.

 

[Dribble]

1 - football team bids maximum they are willing to pay for a player they like and that they know is willing to join them
2 - Arteta rings Pep and asks if City wouldn't mind doing all the legals and due diligence to bid for a player they don't want, as that will convince Arsenal's board to place a higher bid for a player apparently only they are bidding for and we can therefore help out closest rival from last season to strengthen and we do it, despite it pushing the limits of legality and, I suspect, several PL rules.

Yep, no difference, toss a coin for which one of those is most likely

Mate, unless you were involved in the negotiations, you like Eni are making suppositions.

I suppose it comes down to whether you're claiming that as a DoF, what she claims she's done is

A: Impossible

B: Illegal

OR

C: She's just making it up.

If C, dya have any proof Eni's never called a friendly DoF from a rival club asking them to put in a bid for a player they've no interest in, to nudge her club into paying up & securing their transfer target's services? \0/

 

[Cambo]

Do we win the treble without Jack? Probably not.

The results say Jack was worth every penny.

Will Rice elevate Arse to win PL + ? Probably not but they gotta try.

Don’t agree that you can say that. A teams results shouldn’t be correlated with whether someone was worth the outlay. Our CL run and I would argue FA Cup and PL were squad/team results of which Jack played a part and played a better part than he did last year. Having said that, no way does his individual contributions this year justify 100M.

Jacks stats in the CL this year are P13, G0, A0. He was part of a squad, but think it’s a stretch to say we don’t win it without him. Not having the liability that is Cancelo playing LB helped us more.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

Don’t agree that you can say that. A teams results shouldn’t be correlated with whether someone was worth the outlay. Our CL run and I would argue FA Cup and PL were squad/team results of which Jack played a part and played a better part than he did last year. Having said that, no way does his individual contributions this year justify 100M.

Jacks stats in the CL this year are P13, G0, A0. He was part of a squad, but think it’s a stretch to say we don’t win it without him. Not having the liability that is Cancelo playing LB helped us more.

He did create more chances and draw more fouls than anyone else in the competition.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

He is to the club though. An excellent player but also extremely marketable. When kids round here talk to me about City, it's always Grealish and Haaland they want to talk about.

Rice is a very good player but I suspect that he doesn't have anywhere near the same marketing value.

I agree that Rice is very good, multi faceted and young and would have been a good addition. But I also think he's a bit overpriced. Think the Arse's transfer business has been quite good. They really do have a top manager

 

[halfcenturyup]

They really do have a top manager

I suppose we will see this year. Not convinced, personally.

Maybe that's unfair because I am spoilt with Guardiola. Let's see.

 

[willipp]

Don’t agree that you can say that. A teams results shouldn’t be correlated with whether someone was worth the outlay. Our CL run and I would argue FA Cup and PL were squad/team results of which Jack played a part and played a better part than he did last year. Having said that, no way does his individual contributions this year justify 100M.

Jacks stats in the CL this year are P13, G0, A0. He was part of a squad, but think it’s a stretch to say we don’t win it without him. Not having the liability that is Cancelo playing LB helped us more.

Stop talking shit. Grealish played 90 minutes in all but one of the knockout games in the CL. How the fuck do you correlate that as being a squad player for the CL?