csnewton said:horizon said:This forum REALLY needs to sort out what it means by "face value only" because there are too many of you who believe that means - " I'll pay what you paid for it."
ie that I want the deal you got, without needing to bother with any of the investment that you put in.
If my season card costs £1,000 and gives me access to 20 games (I am rounding up) then it is undoubtedly true that I am paying £50 per game, but those games might include United on a Saturday afternoon and Stoke on a Wednesday night, the idea that both are worth the same and that the season card holder should sell them for the same is clearly nonsense. The club grade games A B or C - for that purpose. So face value is :WHAT YOU WOULD PAY THE CLUB ON OPEN SALE.
To suggest, as three people have, that I should fork out £800, have to drag myself to a raft of miserable midweek matches, so that they can benefit from a below-face value price for the most sought after game of the season is taking the Mick.
I have an upper East Stand Ticket spare for the Derby - it will cost £54 which is what you would have to pay on open sale. If you can't afford it, fine, but don't accuse me of profiteering
I'll openly admit that i'm one of the people who has turned down the offer of £54, and thats not because I can't afford it. At the end of the day, you haven't paid the open sale price for this game. You have paid the same amount for all 19 home games whether its the derby or Stoke at home on a Wednesday, yet you are offering it for £54 rather than face value. Now im sure there are plenty of people willing to pay that price for the derby (you could sell it for a lot more outside of this forum so fair play) but at the end of the day you are making money on the ticket. I thought that the whole premice of this forum was for the lucky 'chancers' to get a face value season card price for a seat that would otherwise be empty. If that's not the case, then if one of the moderators can tell me otherwise then I would be grateful.
DigDog said:csnewton said:horizon said:This forum REALLY needs to sort out what it means by "face value only" because there are too many of you who believe that means - " I'll pay what you paid for it."
ie that I want the deal you got, without needing to bother with any of the investment that you put in.
If my season card costs £1,000 and gives me access to 20 games (I am rounding up) then it is undoubtedly true that I am paying £50 per game, but those games might include United on a Saturday afternoon and Stoke on a Wednesday night, the idea that both are worth the same and that the season card holder should sell them for the same is clearly nonsense. The club grade games A B or C - for that purpose. So face value is :WHAT YOU WOULD PAY THE CLUB ON OPEN SALE.
To suggest, as three people have, that I should fork out £800, have to drag myself to a raft of miserable midweek matches, so that they can benefit from a below-face value price for the most sought after game of the season is taking the Mick.
I have an upper East Stand Ticket spare for the Derby - it will cost £54 which is what you would have to pay on open sale. If you can't afford it, fine, but don't accuse me of profiteering
I'll openly admit that i'm one of the people who has turned down the offer of £54, and thats not because I can't afford it. At the end of the day, you haven't paid the open sale price for this game. You have paid the same amount for all 19 home games whether its the derby or Stoke at home on a Wednesday, yet you are offering it for £54 rather than face value. Now im sure there are plenty of people willing to pay that price for the derby (you could sell it for a lot more outside of this forum so fair play) but at the end of the day you are making money on the ticket. I thought that the whole premice of this forum was for the lucky 'chancers' to get a face value season card price for a seat that would otherwise be empty. If that's not the case, then if one of the moderators can tell me otherwise then I would be grateful.
This is where you as a buyer instead of being a seller miss the point. If it were possible to get the £32 or whatever it is per game back for spares against the like of Stoke you'd have a valid point but the likes of yourself wait until the day before the game and then expect to pick tickets up for twenty odd quid. I'd the ticket go to some little scrote outside the ground who'd never get the chance to see a live game than to someone who plays the system like this and then turns their nose up at £54 for a top of the table derby.
csnewton said:DigDog said:csnewton said:I'll openly admit that i'm one of the people who has turned down the offer of £54, and thats not because I can't afford it. At the end of the day, you haven't paid the open sale price for this game. You have paid the same amount for all 19 home games whether its the derby or Stoke at home on a Wednesday, yet you are offering it for £54 rather than face value. Now im sure there are plenty of people willing to pay that price for the derby (you could sell it for a lot more outside of this forum so fair play) but at the end of the day you are making money on the ticket. I thought that the whole premice of this forum was for the lucky 'chancers' to get a face value season card price for a seat that would otherwise be empty. If that's not the case, then if one of the moderators can tell me otherwise then I would be grateful.
This is where you as a buyer instead of being a seller miss the point. If it were possible to get the £32 or whatever it is per game back for spares against the like of Stoke you'd have a valid point but the likes of yourself wait until the day before the game and then expect to pick tickets up for twenty odd quid. I'd the ticket go to some little scrote outside the ground who'd never get the chance to see a live game than to someone who plays the system like this and then turns their nose up at £54 for a top of the table derby.
Ive never 'played the system' dig dog and ive certainly never paid 20 odd quid for a ticket for any game, it has always been face value! Im not complaining about the fact that £54 is a lot of money because thats a good price for this game...I was just under the impression that face value on this forum was the cost of a season ticket divided by 19. If its the value that people pay for tickets on general sale then so be it, I just wanted it to be clear as so many people talk about 'face value' on this forum.
alberto0292 said:there are 5 tickets on sale on viagogo right now