Diamond formation

[uwe rosler 28]

Couldn't see a thread on formations and didn't know where to put this so mods put in any thread you feel it needs to be in. So does anyone else think the diamond formation is the way forward for us at the moment? Or do you think it would give us a lack of width for and against and would to many players get in the way of each other? I think it would be perfect for us to play it with these players

...............................................................................HART........................................................................................

..........................................OTTA.....................................................MANGALA.....................................................

SAGNA.........................................................FERNANDO...............................................................KOLAROV......

................................YAYA...........................................................DELPH/DINIHIO...............................................

......................................................................SILVA..............................................................................................

................................AGUERO........................................................KDB.................................................................

 

[xenon_]

I dunno, Uwe, it realy depends what you want to do with it? Like... what system?

Call me a generaliser but without any specific tactical approach, I can only see that kind of formation is always going to stifle one's own attack in favour of a more solid defensive base. Which completely goes against our squad's abilities and will mess our football up. But again, I'm not sure what you're thinking in terms of tactics, so I could be jumping the gun.

Whatcha thinkin bro?

 

[abu13]

I was thinking of starting a thread myself about formations, as daft as it sounds I feel our issues stem from having too many quality players and the manager feeling he has to rotate in order to accomodate them.

I would love to see us beef up the defensive aspect of our midfield but also give Kun more support. I was thinking along the lines of,

-----------------------------------------------------------Fenando-------------------------------------------------------------

-------------------------------------Delph-----------------------------------------Dhino--------------------------------------

--------------------------------------------------------Silva or KDB-----------------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------Aguero------------------Nacho--------------------------------------------------

The work rate of the three in midfield would help the back 4 no end and the front three would still be
very potent.

But then you are left with the potential situation of having, Yaya, Sterling, Silva or Kdb, Navas, Bony, on the bench.

Just a thought on formations, i have always wondered if we could go with a back 3 provided we could get good defensive cover in front of them.

 

[blueinsa]

Managers, players, pundits and fans alike have the incredible gift of over complicating a simple game.

4-4-2 with two wide men offering pace and balance and two midfield terriers offering the protection the back 4 needs and the support when attacking.

its a very simple game at the end of the day it really is.

 

[hilts]

Couldn't see a thread on formations and didn't know where to put this so mods put in any thread you feel it needs to be in. So does anyone else think the diamond formation is the way forward for us at the moment? Or do you think it would give us a lack of width for and against and would to many players get in the way of each other? I think it would be perfect for us to play it with these players

...............................................................................HART........................................................................................

..........................................OTTA.....................................................MANGALA.....................................................

SAGNA.........................................................FERNANDO...............................................................KOLAROV......

................................YAYA...........................................................DELPH/DINIHIO...............................................

......................................................................SILVA..............................................................................................

................................AGUERO........................................................KDB.................................................................

The full backs would have to have a very good day At the office and the yaya sagna combo could be very problematic, dinho would need to take toures place for me

 

[hgblue]

---------------------------------------------Fernando---------------------------------------

-------------------------Yaya------------------------------Fernandinho-----------------

De Bruyne--------------------------Aguero----------------------------------Sterling

 

[abu13]

Managers, players, pundits and fans alike have the incredible gift of over complicating a simple game.

4-4-2 with two wide men offering pace and balance and two midfield terriers offering the protection the back 4 needs and the support when attacking.

its a very simple game at the end of the day it really is.

Yep I agree, however when the manager gives one of the midfield terrier roles to Yaya and also wants to start with Silva we are left with a truely soft centre.

 

[hilts]

Managers, players, pundits and fans alike have the incredible gift of over complicating a simple game.

4-4-2 with two wide men offering pace and balance and two midfield terriers offering the protection the back 4 needs and the support when attacking.

its a very simple game at the end of the day it really is.

Navas dinho delph sterling is good in a 442, kdb toure dinho silva is bad in a 442, mp is more likely to pick the second, 3 at the back is the Bly way I can see that gets sterling,toure,kdb and silva into the team, navas could play wing back could sterling?

 

[LWashington]

Managers, players, pundits and fans alike have the incredible gift of over complicating a simple game.

4-4-2 with two wide men offering pace and balance and two midfield terriers offering the protection the back 4 needs and the support when attacking.

its a very simple game at the end of the day it really is.

Delph Dinho
Navas Kelechi Sterling
Kun

Then bring on Silva , KDB, Toure for the last 30 mins to replace the players having a bad game. It really is that simple.

 

[blueinsa]

Navas dinho delph sterling is good in a 442, kdb toure dinho silva is bad in a 442, mp is more likely to pick the second, 3 at the back is the Bly way I can see that gets sterling,toure,kdb and silva into the team, navas could play wing back could sterling?

I agree he would go with the second 4 normally but its only bad because of the mental attitude by some of those players to what they are being asked to do.

Right now id go Sterling, Delph, Fernandinho and Navas. Its balanced and has pace out wide and it has work rate going forwards and back. If KdB and Silva want a part of it as they should, id be happy as fuck as they are two world class players and would bring far more to the table right now but not if they just stand around doing fuck all off the ball, as is the case right now.

You pick a winning team, we are not Real Madrid and their galactico's.

 

[blueinsa]

Delph Dinho
Navas Kelechi Sterling
Kun

Then bring on Silva , KDB, Toure for the last 30 mins to replace the players having a bad game. It really is that simple.

Its not even bad game mate, its fresh legs against a tiring defence and it would work.

Again for clarity, this is not me writing off KdB or Merlin, its me wanting to say to them they have to put the effort in off the ball as well as on it and contribute to the team for the whole 90 mins if they ant to start.

 

[hilts]

I agree he would go with the second 4 normally but its only bad because of the mental attitude by some of those players to what they are being asked to do.

Right now id go Sterling, Delph, Fernandinho and Navas. Its balanced and has pace out wide and it has work rate going forwards and back. If KdB and Silva want a part of it as they should, id be happy as fuck as they are two world class players and would bring far more to the table right now but not if they just stand around doing fuck all off the ball, as is the case right now.

You pick a winning team, we are not Real Madrid and their galactico's.

With that 4 which I prefer if we are playing 442 who do you prefer to play supporting aguero, kdb,silva or kelechi?

 

[blueinsa]

With that 4 which I prefer if we are playing 442 who do you prefer to play supporting aguero, kdb,silva or kelechi?

Right now id go Kalechi. he is dynamite and seems to have struck up a relationship with Kun immediately. He frightens defenders with his movement and he knows where the goal is and it allows Kun the freedom he needs to do his thing. I also go with him because i honestly believe we have to get a real grip of midfield and win that battle at all costs before allowing us the luxury of introducing Silva, Yaya or KdB into the fray, especially away from home.

 

[hilts]

Sagna---otamendi--mangala--clichy
Navas--dinho--delph--sterling
----------kdb---aguero---------

Your winning you take off kdb for toure and counter them

Sagna--otamendi--mangala--clichy
---------------delph-------------------
Navas----toure------dinho---sterling
-----------------aguero-----------------

Your losing and need goals you take off clichy
And delph

------sagna--------otamendi----mangala
Navas--------toure-------dinho-----sterling
------------silva-------------kdb---------
--------------------aguero-----------------

Three different ways of playing dependant on the situation and opposition with minimal subs required, the important roles are navas,sterling and dinho, they are your legs and workrate the rest are picked on form and tactics

Kdb,silva and kelechi are interchangeable and are in the correct position when you play them

 

[Shawnducati]

We need to run a 5-3-2 until Vinny returns. Period.