Did Darwin Kill God?

[The Kurious Oranj]

Can anybody of ANY purported intellect tell me if they actually WATCHED the said programme the title thread is named after??

Hi Bigga. I don't know about having any purported intellect, but I did watch the said programme.

It was a disappointing and very unbalanced contribution to the otherwise excellent Darwin season on the Beeb. Of course Darwin didn't 'kill' God, but he did come up with a rather elegant theory that removed the need for the idea of a God to explain the way life on earth is.

The rather annoying bloke who presented the programme was not disagreeing with Darwin's Theory of Evolution but attempting to claim, somewhat unconvincingly, that there was no conflict between the idea of Christianity and the idea of Evolution. He suggested that the Bible was allegorical and should not be (and never has been according to him) taken literally. He suggested that scientific ideas fit quite nicely into Christian theology and there is no conflict between the two. He is, of course, a complete looney.

The whole point of science is that it attempts to explain by the use of facts and evidence, something that is completing lacking from, not just Christianity, but all of the Abrahimic religions. They are based on faith which is basically a belief without evidence. To quote Nietzsche ' Faith means not wanting to know what is true'.

 

[Bigga]

Has anyone mentioned Dinosaurs in this thread?

The Dinosaur question is answered in the programme if you care to watch it...

 

[Bigga]

Forget about a god or gods ask yourself is there life after death. If there ain't then Darwin is right. If there is then that might have some bearing on how we evolved. Doesn't have to mean a god physically created a human being but simply put in place a situation where evolution would allow for man to evolve. Anyone who believes in Adam and Eve just ain't real and I am a christian.

Gee! How do you answer if there's Life after Death without actually going there...?

 

[Bigga]

Can anybody of ANY purported intellect tell me if they actually WATCHED the said programme the title thread is named after??

Hi Bigga. I don't know about having any purported intellect, but I did watch the said programme.

It was a disappointing and very unbalanced contribution to the otherwise excellent Darwin season on the Beeb. Of course Darwin didn't 'kill' God, but he did come up with a rather elegant theory that removed the need for the idea of a God to explain the way life on earth is.

The rather annoying bloke who presented the programme was not disagreeing with Darwin's Theory of Evolution but attempting to claim, somewhat unconvincingly, that there was no conflict between the idea of Christianity and the idea of Evolution. He suggested that the Bible was allegorical and should not be (and never has been according to him) taken literally. He suggested that scientific ideas fit quite nicely into Christian theology and there is no conflict between the two. He is, of course, a complete looney.

The whole point of science is that it attempts to explain by the use of facts and evidence, something that is completing lacking from, not just Christianity, but all of the Abrahimic religions. They are based on faith which is basically a belief without evidence. To quote Nietzsche ' Faith means not wanting to know what is true'.

I think this is what disappoints me about about science thinkers. the dismissals of the presenter as a 'looney'!! Why? Because he explores an alternative way of thinking? I'd expect you accept the 'Selfish Gene' theory when that has been all but debunked! You probably like the Meme explanation, which in my opinion is total sh*te!

But, you won't consider the wider thinkings of a Christian Theologist?!

In my eyes Darwin doesn't dismiss God, he attempts to explain evolution. We were given Free Will to discover what we want to about Life and the Universe. In my eyes, God expects us to question things about Him.

That is what Free Will is all about.

 

[pee dubya]

Can anybody of ANY purported intellect tell me if they actually WATCHED the said programme the title thread is named after??

Hi Bigga. I don't know about having any purported intellect, but I did watch the said programme.

It was a disappointing and very unbalanced contribution to the otherwise excellent Darwin season on the Beeb. Of course Darwin didn't 'kill' God, but he did come up with a rather elegant theory that removed the need for the idea of a God to explain the way life on earth is.

The rather annoying bloke who presented the programme was not disagreeing with Darwin's Theory of Evolution but attempting to claim, somewhat unconvincingly, that there was no conflict between the idea of Christianity and the idea of Evolution. He suggested that the Bible was allegorical and should not be (and never has been according to him) taken literally. He suggested that scientific ideas fit quite nicely into Christian theology and there is no conflict between the two. He is, of course, a complete looney.

The whole point of science is that it attempts to explain by the use of facts and evidence, something that is completing lacking from, not just Christianity, but all of the Abrahimic religions. They are based on faith which is basically a belief without evidence. To quote Nietzsche ' Faith means not wanting to know what is true'.

I think this is what disappoints me about about science thinkers. the dismissals of the presenter as a 'looney'!! Why? Because he explores an alternative way of thinking? I'd expect you accept the 'Selfish Gene' theory when that has been all but debunked! You probably like the Meme explanation, which in my opinion is total sh*te!

But, you won't consider the wider thinkings of a Christian Theologist?!

In my eyes Darwin doesn't dismiss God, he attempts to explain evolution. We were given Free Will to discover what we want to about Life and the Universe. In my eyes, God expects us to question things about Him.

That is what Free Will is all about.

Do you class yourself as Christian then?

 

[Bigga]

Do you class yourself as Christian then?

No, I don't.

I class myself as a believer in the FUNDAMENTALS of Bible principality. That said, I've never been naive enough to take things at face value, but learn to look for the meanings behind things. Mind you, I haven't read all of it, having said that.

It also means I haven't and won't discount the Theory of Evolution. As I've gotten older, my mind has expanded to accept possibilities of happenings, whilst for others, science included, they have closed.

I deduce this by reading what I have on these pages.

 

[svennis pennis]

Has anyone mentioned Dinosaurs in this thread?

The Dinosaur question is answered in the programme if you care to watch it...

Wheres the program?

 

[johnny crossan]

Congratulations, a vigorous defence of nihilism that will be applauded by all the other degenerates on here.

Well, silly beliefs, of not drawing a picture of someone, is one of the best advertisements for nihilism I can think of. lol

Seriously though, shouldn't you be pushing over gravestones or spraying graffiti on war memorials?

Ah, yes, because I am having a laugh, at a silly belief, it means I am unpatriotic and hate the troops.

You're a great thinker......


and a bad WUM.

It's Easter Elanjo, how about popping out to spread your excrement on a few altars.
Invite the celebrants to share your purposeless, intolerant, immoral and empty void.

Expound the virtues of selfishness and abuse those attempting to live a religious life. Even better, why don't you burn a few churches or mosques or synagogues - and better still - with the worshippers inside?

God help you.

Which one?
There has been more "Gods" than Muslim Suicide Bomber Instructors...


PS. If calling me a "murderous Godless heathen" is the best you can do then I think you need to pray, to your God, for direction, if not a brain.

Enjoy your choccy eggs, even if it isn't easter yet.

You left out Copraphileac !

Actually Elanjo, I accept you probably don’t have murder in your heart.

Having said that I’m going to resort to a few quotes (but this time from your own contributions to the Dawkins/Darwin thread you started) which may explain why I have the impression that you need help in coping with the modern world.

Do you remember writing for example:

“(believing in God) is similar to a lot of Alien Abduction claims.... those that get abducted by these higher beings are never physicists, biologists etc etc, they are almost always, for want of a better word, "losers"

or

“technically it was Muhammad who was the paedophile. He was the one that married a 6 year old, called Aisha, and fooked her when she was 9. Not Allah. Allah is an imaginary being. Pretty difficult for him to have his way with a kid

or


“I'd love to see the day where every single Christian thought that, as that would be yet another step in the direction of ridding the world of Christianity. Evolution, like Alien life (once discovered) are 2 things that cripple religion, and why they will fight to the death to undermine both.”

I could go on, but it’s probably too painful for us both.


Whatever would you do if Aliens believed in God?

 

[johnny crossan]

Has anyone mentioned Dinosaurs in this thread?

The Dinosaur question is answered in the programme if you care to watch it...

Wheres the program?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jhfwt/Did_Darwin_Kill_God/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... _Kill_God/</a>
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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/realmedia/2009/02/conor_cunningham.ram" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bbc.co.uk/nottingham/realmed ... ingham.ram</a>

 

[pee dubya]

Do you class yourself as Christian then?

No, I don't.

I class myself as a believer in the FUNDAMENTALS of Bible principality. That said, I've never been naive enough to take things at face value, but learn to look for the meanings behind things. Mind you, I haven't read all of it, having said that.

It also means I haven't and won't discount the Theory of Evolution. As I've gotten older, my mind has expanded to accept possibilities of happenings, whilst for others, science included, they have closed.

I deduce this by reading what I have on these pages.

I guess that's where we differ then, i'd describe myself as open to different concepts. However, those concepts have to have a degree of evidence to support them or at the very least seem logical. Anything that requires blind faith seems like a waste of time. Throughout humanity we have placed blind faith in a huge variety of religions and Gods, i have no idea how anyone can consider theirs to be right and others to be wrong. The concept of God is just an idea, nothing more, it cannot be proven, cannot be tested or seen. A neat idea to explain the things we can't or don't want to understand.