Discuss Pellegrini

[TGR]

That is the difference and hence the problem with a lot of our top players - they simply couldn't (and based on Sunday's performance some of them still can't) be arsed, even in an FA Cup Final which will alwyas be unforgivable. I am trying hard not use words like 'spoilt brats' and 'Prima Donnas' which interestingly is defined by Wiki as:

Calling players "lazy" and saying "they can't be arsed" is nearly always just a lazy and simplistic fan's way of seeing things, usually based on nothing but a bit of frustrated body language or just a total lack of understanding of the game.

Effort was not the problem at the weekend. Even at 3-1 down they were forcing the game and were within a whisker of an equaliser twice.

You really do come across as a conceited 'know it all who know's nowt' kinda guy. You really do.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

So you think Rodwell will take Yaya's place alongside Fernandinho?

I can't speak for Dave but I think Rodwell is Yaya's natural understudy in the squad, so if Yaya were to miss out for any reason, Rodwell would be the player who'd come in. Personally I think Pellegrini will rotate those two more than Mancini did - especially during the CL group stages as I said earlier.

That's how I see it too.

I'm not dismissing Ya Ya's ability. Play him in the advanced role in a 4231 and he can be lethal. But that gives the manager a player-juggling problem of course. Who do you drop? Play him in a 4-3-3 and I suspect he can deliver too. But if we decide to play with width as we did at the weekend, and we are likely to come under a bit of pressure, then in the 4-2-2-2 I think he has to be dropped for someone more mobile.

Like you, Billy, I see much more rotation. I am confident the manager will see his strengths and weaknesses over time.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Are people really annoyed because he doesn't wear a scarf??

I want him to wear a replica home shirt.

Infact, let's go for the full kit wanker look, boots and everything.

Exactly then we know he is one of us

 

[Didsbury Dave]

That is the difference and hence the problem with a lot of our top players - they simply couldn't (and based on Sunday's performance some of them still can't) be arsed, even in an FA Cup Final which will alwyas be unforgivable. I am trying hard not use words like 'spoilt brats' and 'Prima Donnas' which interestingly is defined by Wiki as:

Calling players "lazy" and saying "they can't be arsed" is nearly always just a lazy and simplistic fan's way of seeing things, usually based on nothing but a bit of frustrated body language or just a total lack of understanding of the game.

Effort was not the problem at the weekend. Even at 3-1 down they were forcing the game and were within a whisker of an equaliser twice.

You really do come across as a conceited 'know it all who know's nowt' kinda guy. You really do.

And you come across as someone who can't respond in a discussion so goes for an insult instead.

 

[andyhinch]

Are people really annoyed because he doesn't wear a scarf??

I want him to wear a replica home shirt.

Infact, let's go for the full kit wanker look, boots and everything.

Exactly then we know he is one of us

Theirs a few posters on here that can't see the wood for the trees, talking formations and other bollocks:)

 

[TGR]

Calling players "lazy" and saying "they can't be arsed" is nearly always just a lazy and simplistic fan's way of seeing things, usually based on nothing but a bit of frustrated body language or just a total lack of understanding of the game.

Effort was not the problem at the weekend. Even at 3-1 down they were forcing the game and were within a whisker of an equaliser twice.

You really do come across as a conceited 'know it all who know's nowt' kinda guy. You really do.

And you come across as someone who can't respond in a discussion so goes for an insult instead.

Not an insult Dismal. Simply a statement of fact.

 

[BobKowalski]

So you think Rodwell will take Yaya's place alongside Fernandinho?

I can't speak for Dave but I think Rodwell is Yaya's natural understudy in the squad, so if Yaya were to miss out for any reason, Rodwell would be the player who'd come in. Personally I think Pellegrini will rotate those two more than Mancini did - especially during the CL group stages as I said earlier.

That's how I see it too.

I'm not dismissing Ya Ya's ability. Play him in the advanced role in a 4231 and he can be lethal. But that gives the manager a player-juggling problem of course. Who do you drop? Play him in a 4-3-3 and I suspect he can deliver too. But if we decide to play with width as we did at the weekend, and we are likely to come under a bit of pressure, then in the 4-2-2-2 I think he has to be dropped for someone more mobile.

Like you, Billy, I see much more rotation. I am confident the manager will see his strengths and weaknesses over time.

Yaya will always start. Its the rule.

I love how people bang on about Yaya playing in an advance role because I have Ian Ridley on a loop in my head guffawing at the idea of Yaya playing a forward role and how it demonstrated that Mancini did not have a clue. The two nodding dogs sat alongside him just makes it a that bit funnier. Comedy gold.

Mind you the same people are telling me that Pellegrini is a much better manager than Mancini so it makes you wonder...

 

[samharris]

I doubt whether Pelle has come across such severe park the bus tactics before,so if he watches the game back a few times he can decide the correct plan of action for it again..

Give him time to get things sorted..

 

[Anonymous]

On the zonal v man marking thing ... do any of the resident statisticians know how many goals we conceded from set pieces last season. Looking at that as a % of total number of goals conceded might give us an indication into the thinking behind the switch to man marking, that is if the % is higher than it should be.

 

[BobKowalski]

On the zonal v man marking thing ... do any of the resident statisticians know how many goals we conceded from set pieces last season. Looking at that as a % of total number of goals conceded might give us an indication into the thinking behind the switch to man marking, that is if the % is higher than it should be.

Currently man marking accounts for 66.67% of our goals this season if it helps :)

I recall that when asked about man marking, which he used to a lot since zonal is the work of the devil, Mancini used to say that our defenders were not strong enough to man mark which probably went down well with Vincent. Probably find its Kompany's idea to switch...

As to your actual question. No idea. Would be interesting to find out. Given we conceded relatively few goals I suspect it would be quite high. Also what % is too high? Well apart from 66.67% that is.

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