Discuss Pellegrini

[mancity1]

It is a squad game and we should be able to cope but to lose such influential players as Kompany and Silva just as we have a new manager with a whole new system is plain bad luck !
As soon as the squad is all back and fit , I think we will see improvement - but we have to remember that empires take time to build.

contrary to popular delusion our squad depth isn't fantastic and still lacks balance,it will take a while to remedy given the contracts some of our 'lesser' players are sitting on.

We simply can't reproduce our best form with kompany,silva and clichy,amongst others,missing.

I certainly agree we lack the right mix and there are players even playing for clubs below Everton that gel and make that side much better than they otherwise would be even though they wouldn't get a look at in City.

We will have good days and off days ( hopefully many more good than off but who knows ) but what you need is players that have a belief and are prepared to do what is necessary to get the result.

Everton had it today for example , they would have beaten us comfortably today ( home or away dare I say it ).

You cannot help thinking too many of our squad have lived in a comfort zone since we won the title and are living on reputation rather than what is needed week in week out.

I can cop a loss when we have been unlucky and played to our best on any given day but these performances against low opposition and dropping 5 points with dire efforts to boost strikes me of a side that doesn't give a stuff at least not at the moment.

Talk the Talk but walk the walk and you will gain the respect of the opposition.

No side fears us anymore even at our own patch and that includes every side in the premiership.

We have to get that invincibility back into our play , we haven't had it for over two years now.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

All I can say so far is that he's had injuries to defense which is our weakest department. People who can't see that problem and blame him are Manciniester fans and still resentful he's got the gig.

Personally I'd have got Jose but Pellegrini it is and he's a good manager anyway, certainly one that fits what our bill is I.e attacking philosophy, great man manager, adept in European football.

Javi Garcia needs to start looking at houses back in Spain, he's fucking atrocious. Today no different. Only Nastasics near O.G helped to spare blushes. That track back and failed pass straight into a stoke players feet was despicable.

The 4-2-2-2 like I said following Cardiff game is not right for us. We need a three man midfield. Milner and Fernandinho with Yaya the advanced player is our best formation imo. Silva or Jovetic on left and Navas on the right with Aguero or Negredo upfront. Yaya isn't cut out for 2 man midfield, he's a great player advanced but average holding. He must be seen as a Vieira type player but he lacks the stamina to do the same job. Enter James Milner.

I think Barry going and Garcia staying is a terrible decision I believe we may live to regret. He's a perfect option for us to have and we basically gave him away. Garcia does not deserve his shirt, Barry did. Simple.

People writing us off when Jovetic is still to enter the fray properly, and the other three also to gel. DeMichellis and Kompany both bolster our options. I'm just glad it's at the start of the seasom as opposed to a crucial European game or league run in fixture.

Said all along that top 3 and advance from groups in Europe is what we have to do. Winning the league is possible imo, I make us favourites still but people should not expect it. We had a BIG summer. 4 new players that will probably enter our first eleven, new manager and many injuries yet the sky is falling in for the irrational.

One word. Believe.

Your post doesn't make any sense old bean you have made a pretty big contradiction

It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

 

[CC1]

I think people should be honest and lay their cards on the table

If you think he is a dud and we should get rid just come out and say it

I think that's a great idea. Like a handy guide to Bluemoon's biggest morons.

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

 

[dctid]

If we screw up the next two games ie we lose one or both with the same type of performances then for me he can do one as one poster put it. To progress in the CL we have to get something away and we cannot let a gap open up between us and the other teams or we will struggle top 4

If being nice to players means they turn out this level of shizzzle then please bring back an autocratic odious bastard manager in place of this fucker w0rked quite well for Ferguson, Mouriniho etc.

You will probably find that if you speak to the players that played under the 2 you mention they will say that they're their favourite managers.

I think our start has been poor, but you cant even contemplate changing manager after 4 games, he still has to get the team playing his way and the new signings are just that - new signings. Negredo looks good but the others need to settle in before we see anything like what theyre capable of. The one thing in our favour is it looks like everyone else is capable of losing, in general the start to the season has been poor from all clubs except Liverpool and I dont expect them to keep that up for long.

Chelski lost to Neverton - fuck dont we always lose there
Rags lost to Ploppool away and drew against Chelski
Spuds lost to Le arse away - again not a shock
Ploppool aint lost yet - and with Suarez back they will only get stronger
Le Arse lost to Villa opening game - only result you can say was a suprise
City get tuened over by Cardiff and lucky top get a draw today

Dont see anythingt which supports your pint that everybody is capable of losing - Le Arse apart everybody who has dropped points has done so against decent oposition certainly much much better than teams we have dropped points too

And yes if we got beat in the CL and then against the rags i would contemplate getting rid of him

 

[Anonymous]

I think people should be honest and lay their cards on the table

If you think he is a dud and we should get rid just come out and say it

I think that's a great idea. Like a handy guide to Bluemoon's biggest morons.

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

 

[Ducado]

If we screw up the next two games ie we lose one or both with the same type of performances then for me he can do one as one poster put it. To progress in the CL we have to get something away and we cannot let a gap open up between us and the other teams or we will struggle top 4

If being nice to players means they turn out this level of shizzzle then please bring back an autocratic odious bastard manager in place of this fucker w0rked quite well for Ferguson, Mouriniho etc.

You will probably find that if you speak to the players that played under the 2 you mention they will say that they're their favourite managers.

I think our start has been poor, but you cant even contemplate changing manager after 4 games, he still has to get the team playing his way and the new signings are just that - new signings. Negredo looks good but the others need to settle in before we see anything like what theyre capable of. The one thing in our favour is it looks like everyone else is capable of losing, in general the start to the season has been poor from all clubs except Liverpool and I dont expect them to keep that up for long.

Chelski lost to Neverton - fuck dont we always lose there
Rags lost to Ploppool away and drew against Chelski
Spuds lost to Le arse away - again not a shock
Ploppool aint lost yet - and with Suarez back they will only get stronger
Le Arse lost to Villa opening game - only result you can say was a suprise
City get tuened over by Cardiff and lucky top get a draw today

Dont see anythingt which supports your pint that everybody is capable of losing - Le Arse apart everybody who has dropped points has done so against decent oposition certainly much much better than teams we have dropped points too

And yes if we got beat in the CL and then against the rags i would contemplate getting rid of him

Could you try writing that in English please

 

[hilts]

All I can say so far is that he's had injuries to defense which is our weakest department. People who can't see that problem and blame him are Manciniester fans and still resentful he's got the gig.

Personally I'd have got Jose but Pellegrini it is and he's a good manager anyway, certainly one that fits what our bill is I.e attacking philosophy, great man manager, adept in European football.

Javi Garcia needs to start looking at houses back in Spain, he's fucking atrocious. Today no different. Only Nastasics near O.G helped to spare blushes. That track back and failed pass straight into a stoke players feet was despicable.

The 4-2-2-2 like I said following Cardiff game is not right for us. We need a three man midfield. Milner and Fernandinho with Yaya the advanced player is our best formation imo. Silva or Jovetic on left and Navas on the right with Aguero or Negredo upfront. Yaya isn't cut out for 2 man midfield, he's a great player advanced but average holding. He must be seen as a Vieira type player but he lacks the stamina to do the same job. Enter James Milner.

I think Barry going and Garcia staying is a terrible decision I believe we may live to regret. He's a perfect option for us to have and we basically gave him away. Garcia does not deserve his shirt, Barry did. Simple.

People writing us off when Jovetic is still to enter the fray properly, and the other three also to gel. DeMichellis and Kompany both bolster our options. I'm just glad it's at the start of the seasom as opposed to a crucial European game or league run in fixture.

Said all along that top 3 and advance from groups in Europe is what we have to do. Winning the league is possible imo, I make us favourites still but people should not expect it. We had a BIG summer. 4 new players that will probably enter our first eleven, new manager and many injuries yet the sky is falling in for the irrational.

One word. Believe.

Your post doesn't make any sense old bean you have made a pretty big contradiction

It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

You can't argue with the genius of stating we have a good manager but then goes on to say we should not play garcia and have a 3 man midfield

the guy who picks garcia and plays a two man midfield? our very own manager, clear as mud really, i love logic

 

[Marvin]

It is a squad game and we should be able to cope but to lose such influential players as Kompany and Silva just as we have a new manager with a whole new system is plain bad luck !
As soon as the squad is all back and fit , I think we will see improvement - but we have to remember that empires take time to build.

contrary to popular delusion our squad depth isn't fantastic and still lacks balance,it will take a while to remedy given the contracts some of our 'lesser' players are sitting on.

We simply can't reproduce our best form with kompany,silva and clichy,amongst others,missing.

I was critical of Pellegrini in the aftermath of the Hull game, but today we had our entire first choice back 4 out, and David Silva who is a key player for us. In the circumstances a point is OK. Better than losing at Everton for a start

 

[lancs blue]

I certainly think Pellegrini deserves a full season to put his stamp on the squad but these next two games are already near-critical to the season, two more performances like today and we'll be looking down the barrel in two competitions. Where was the much touted pressing game that Pellegrini was supposed to bring to the club? Today we were poor with the ball and bloody awful without it.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

To be fair I don't think anyone has been that impressed so far something is not right you don't need to be a rocket scientist to realise this.

However he has not been blessed with a fully fit squad and with our most influential player.

I am willing to give him some time, to put things right

I agree! Pellegrini needs time to apply his system on the team. The new signings need time to settle in and the defensive injuries haven't helped.

However the way we have been playing is do pellegrini no favours, and we better get our act together quick before we start slipping behind the leading pack.

But its not about systems its about energy desire work rate and a bit of passion. Get that first then decide the system and i think most would agree that with those attribute whatever system you chose the team will win far far more than it loses, without these attributes the system chosen is irrelevent

The current shite on display proves that

+1. Too many one paced fannys complacently stealing a wage at the moment

 

[waspish]

You will probably find that if you speak to the players that played under the 2 you mention they will say that they're their favourite managers.

I think our start has been poor, but you cant even contemplate changing manager after 4 games, he still has to get the team playing his way and the new signings are just that - new signings. Negredo looks good but the others need to settle in before we see anything like what theyre capable of. The one thing in our favour is it looks like everyone else is capable of losing, in general the start to the season has been poor from all clubs except Liverpool and I dont expect them to keep that up for long.

Chelski lost to Neverton - fuck dont we always lose there
Rags lost to Ploppool away and drew against Chelski
Spuds lost to Le arse away - again not a shock
Ploppool aint lost yet - and with Suarez back they will only get stronger
Le Arse lost to Villa opening game - only result you can say was a suprise
City get tuened over by Cardiff and lucky top get a draw today

Dont see anythingt which supports your pint that everybody is capable of losing - Le Arse apart everybody who has dropped points has done so against decent oposition certainly much much better than teams we have dropped points too

And yes if we got beat in the CL and then against the rags i would contemplate getting rid of him

Could you try writing that in English please

I understood every word ;)

 

[CC1]

I think that's a great idea. Like a handy guide to Bluemoon's biggest morons.

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

You again miss the point. I have no criticism of Pellegrini - I think he is a good manager but the contrast of your posts this year compared with last year is laughable. You didn't have a good word to say about Manchester City's manager - Roberto Mancini. I backed him because he won things AND was our manager. Just as I back Pellegrini because he is our manager. I have never been snide - unlike you. I certainly have NOT been snide about Pellegrini after 4 games. On the contrary, I think he is doing a good job. 3 clean sheets. 2 wins a draw away from home. I just have to laugh at your reference to Bluemoon moaners when you were the KING of moaners about Mancini

 

[simon23]

I think that's a great idea. Like a handy guide to Bluemoon's biggest morons.

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

sorry billy but im calling you on that one..while i agree with some of your criticisms of mancini you were critical of him from pretty early on in his reign as i remember arguements on here where i supported your view of him (ie over defensiveness) - however my view changed and was proved wrong when mancini changed his tactics (became more attaking)

you were critical pretty early on in mancinis reign and from that point didnt change your opinion (fair play thats your decision )

 

[RandomJ]

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

You again miss the point. I have no criticism of Pellegrini - I think he is a good manager but the contrast of your posts this year compared with last year is laughable. You didn't have a good word to say about Manchester City's manager - Roberto Mancini. I backed him because he won things AND was our manager. Just as I back Pellegrini because he is our manager. I have never been snide - unlike you. I certainly have NOT been snide about Pellegrini after 4 games. On the contrary, I think he is doing a good job. 3 clean sheets. 2 wins a draw away from home. I just have to laugh at your reference to Bluemoon moaners when you were the KING of moaners about Mancini

He's just a miserable twat who isn't happy unless he has something to moan about. He is already being proven wrong on replacing Mancini so is now on the defensive. I wouldn't waste your time on him.

 

[simon23]

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

You again miss the point. I have no criticism of Pellegrini - I think he is a good manager but the contrast of your posts this year compared with last year is laughable. You didn't have a good word to say about Manchester City's manager - Roberto Mancini. I backed him because he won things AND was our manager. Just as I back Pellegrini because he is our manager. I have never been snide - unlike you. I certainly have NOT been snide about Pellegrini after 4 games. On the contrary, I think he is doing a good job. 3 clean sheets. 2 wins a draw away from home. I just have to laugh at your reference to Bluemoon moaners when you were the KING of moaners about Mancini

He's just a miserable twat who isn't happy unless he has something to moan about. He is already being proven wrong on replacing Mancini so is now on the defensive. I wouldn't waste your time on him.

this is however what is wrong with this forum at the moment, its about scoring points against each other and while ive just called billy on something others are doing it because they were a RM fan (as was I and didnt want him gone) but its now a pointless arguement as he has gone.....billy never liked mancini really and stick to his guns but some people are just attacking him to try and score points and say you were wrong.....canmnt we just talk about the football?????????? - which i agree is dire at present!!!!!

 

[mancity1]

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

You again miss the point. I have no criticism of Pellegrini - I think he is a good manager but the contrast of your posts this year compared with last year is laughable. You didn't have a good word to say about Manchester City's manager - Roberto Mancini. I backed him because he won things AND was our manager. Just as I back Pellegrini because he is our manager. I have never been snide - unlike you. I certainly have NOT been snide about Pellegrini after 4 games. On the contrary, I think he is doing a good job. 3 clean sheets. 2 wins a draw away from home. I just have to laugh at your reference to Bluemoon moaners when you were the KING of moaners about Mancini

Time will tell whether MP is going to make a success of his time at City by Billy is right , It was time to let Mancini go but the question yet to be answered whether a better perceived man manager will get the results required.

I would have been ok with another season of RM but as others have said that's no longer for debate.

You always hope the next manager is an improvement on the previous one where it matters and that is on match day but the players have to want it more and buy in otherwise no matter the quality of manager he will fail or under achieve.

Its early days but so far MP has found out just how difficult other sides will make it for him and he needs to work out quickly how to get the best out of this squad.

So far he gets a 5 out of 10 from me.

 

[CC1]

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

You again miss the point. I have no criticism of Pellegrini - I think he is a good manager but the contrast of your posts this year compared with last year is laughable. You didn't have a good word to say about Manchester City's manager - Roberto Mancini. I backed him because he won things AND was our manager. Just as I back Pellegrini because he is our manager. I have never been snide - unlike you. I certainly have NOT been snide about Pellegrini after 4 games. On the contrary, I think he is doing a good job. 3 clean sheets. 2 wins a draw away from home. I just have to laugh at your reference to Bluemoon moaners when you were the KING of moaners about Mancini

He's just a miserable twat who isn't happy unless he has something to moan about. He is already being proven wrong on replacing Mancini so is now on the defensive. I wouldn't waste your time on him.

Yes...you are right. 'We love you City, we do, We love you City, we do' (some of us anyway!!) I am excited about this season. We've done well considering the injury list and most fans are right behind the team. Europe on Tuesday, Scum at weekend. The future is bright and exciting whatever the Billy Shears of this world think (and this year, even he has to be positive now that Roberto has gone - God bless Roberto, he brought us the League and FA cup - and Pellers will take us forward. Whatever happens .... the true fans will ALWAYs be here

 

[SkyBlueUSA]

WIn the derby next week, and people will be saying Pellegrini is the best thing since sliced bread lol. However, things could get real nasty if we lose, and this pretty much sums up my mindset about City. I feel we are one good performance away of putting it together, but I also feel we are one good hiding away of a collapse.

 

[hilts]

Billy - I have always backed the manager and the team but this is a bit of a laugh coming from you. Your criticism of Roberto Mancini was unforgivable yet you back Pellegrini come what may. I also back Pellegrini come what may because he is our manager. You could not do that last season. You qualified for one of Bluemoon's biggest morons

Even though Mancini got sacked? You might want to rethink that.

By the way, there's a difference between being snide about a manager after four games because you were in love with his predecessor and making a judgement call on a manager who's been in charge for three years.

sorry billy but im calling you on that one..while i agree with some of your criticisms of mancini you were critical of him from pretty early on in his reign as i remember arguements on here where i supported your view of him (ie over defensiveness) - however my view changed and was proved wrong when mancini changed his tactics (became more attaking)

you were critical pretty early on in mancinis reign and from that point didnt change your opinion (fair play thats your decision )

Listen lads billy has put himself in a position where he has to back up his own judgement come what may, this is the problem with being a billy big bollocks, there is no get out, if and it is a big if Mancini doesn't turn out to be lucifers love child then he has to carry on to protect his own ego, a person of better character could hold his hands up

He doesn't have this ability, he has been wrong on so many things but admitting your errors of judgment which we all have is way beyond him

 

[dctid]

Chelski lost to Neverton - fuck dont we always lose there
Rags lost to Ploppool away and drew against Chelski
Spuds lost to Le arse away - again not a shock
Ploppool aint lost yet - and with Suarez back they will only get stronger
Le Arse lost to Villa opening game - only result you can say was a suprise
City get tuened over by Cardiff and lucky top get a draw today

Dont see anythingt which supports your pint that everybody is capable of losing - Le Arse apart everybody who has dropped points has done so against decent oposition certainly much much better than teams we have dropped points too

And yes if we got beat in the CL and then against the rags i would contemplate getting rid of him

Could you try writing that in English please

I understood every word ;)

I guess the point is that apart from the Arsenal loss to Villa on the opening day the teams whom are likely to compete for the title / top 4 ie our peers have all lost to their peers ie equivalent teams or lost at grounds which are difficult ie Anfield and Goodison

None of them have dropped points against Cardiff and Stoke - we have had a relatively easy opening 4 games compared to many yet we have still strived to screw up.

Most of these teams will take more than one point from Cardiff and Stoke