Discuss Pellegrini....

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Pellikeegan

PMSL!!!

Was hoping you'd be on. So go on, what's your analysis? I know you won't admit that Pellegrini got out thought by a better tactician, so I'm dying to know what tonight was down to. Luck? Injuries? We woz robbed?

 

[GoMancini7]

Re: Pellikeegan

Play this open vs Barca, and we could be conceding over 10 in two legs.

 

[shemnel]

Much more even 2nd half, but still not good enough. Losing Fernandinho was a cruel blow, but to pick a slow immobile 33 year old centre half in midfield instead was a dreadful error, and against opposition famed for high tempo pressing it was tantamount to suicide. Hazard, Willian and Eto'o ran rings them. MdM wasn't the worst though. The Beast was anonymous, and Nastasic is unrecognisable from the player of last season. Outjumped and outmuscled by a pair of midgets all night long, caught dithering in possession, got in Kompany's way, it was like watching Stefan Savic all over again.
Only real plus was Jovetic. Looked a class act. We would have beaten most sides tonight, but not a good one. If we set up like that against Barcelona, Messi will fucking kill us. We need to get back on the horse now as quick as possible. Fuck the FA Cup (it won't be any different to tonight), let's go all out against Norwich and Sunderland

agree with most of that, there were some tactical mistakes and some bad performances. The 2nd half was a bit more even but we were still out fought and outplayed sadly. Fernan and Aguero missing looked very very obvious all of a sudden but i think we came up against a very astute away performance also.

 

[welsh_andy]

did all he could with what he had tbh, fern being out really fucked us up and sow it came to pass on the field. we were indeed very lucky tonight, we could have easily been hammered if wernt for posts and wank decision making from them at the time.

and tbh i dont buy into this we have them in the cup, bollocks to the cup, league means more

 

[vintiz]

What was Pellegrini supposed to do? Garcia and Ferna both injured. Milner just coming back from a long injury. Rodwell looked shit against Watford.

I don't think he likes Demichelis in midfield any more than we do. He's not stupid, he just lacked any other option to throw in midfield today.

There's a reason we were booking jets from Portugal during the transfer window. Txiki knew it too.

Spot on !

 

[waspish]

Not going to slate Pellegrini his beliefs is 4-4-2 and its worked all season we have been really unlucky with injuries today, Chelsea were the better side tonight and Mourinho knows how to set his side up in big games! But games against teams like West Ham who park the bus Mourinho struggles! Still second and a great chance of winning the league but for me Chelsea are favourite for the title we just have a tougher run in..

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

Re: Pellikeegan

Top Quality Drama Queenery - impressive work!

 

[RegMuffin]

Re: Pellikeegan

Not even worth replying to. Oh. Bollocks, just did.

 

[Damocles]

Re: Pellikeegan

PMSL!!!

Was hoping you'd be on. So go on, what's your analysis? I know you won't admit that Pellegrini got out thought by a better tactician, so I'm dying to know what tonight was down to. Luck? Injuries? We woz robbed?

This isn't quite 6 hour ban stuff but it's getting close. Are you trying to argue with Dave or provoke him? For what purpose? Post your opinion by all means but directing it to another poster for the purpose of arguments is bollocks and will get thrown out

 

[OB1]

Manuel got it wrong tonight, which is a shame after such a brilliant few months. Once Fernandinho was out we were in trouble. He should have played Jovetic for Dzeko and Clichy for Kolarov when he knew Fern wasn't playing. You cannot play 4-4-2 with Yaya and MDM, it's asking for trouble. It was a game of the defensive midfielders; MDM couldn't get near Hazard and Matic and Luiz smothered Silva. Great performance by Chelsea, superb from Mourinho but a bad night for City and MP. The fact they drew last week though means this isn't as bad as it could have been.

I have to agree with this; although Jovetic and Clichy should, IMO, have started even if Fern had been fit; that was the team I posted prematch, where I had Jovetic in a wide position and Silva in the middle. Mourinho was always going to pack the midfield and try to smother us. We needed Silva close to Yaya throughout the game but with cover in the wide position.

Without Nasri, Aguero, Fern or even Garcia, Pellegrini did need to take a different approach today. He let Mou's game plan get the better of us. That said, his players let him down in and around both boxes but especially the Chelsea penalty area.

 

[jay_mcfc]

Ah, yes, of course... we lost because a player was injured.


How couldn't I see this? May aswell not have bothered to watch the game.

No need for crap like that. IMO we lost because we had an injury to Fernandinho and still played 4-4-2. IMO that is a mistake from the manager but he has done more than enough to earn himself a night off and when a formation and tactic has worked so well for him you can understand why he stuck with it.

Sometimes you have to give the other team the credit. They were perfect apart from their finishing. Had they scored 5 we couldn't have complained.

 

[Mancini's Second Contract]

Re: Pellikeegan

PMSL!!!

Was hoping you'd be on. So go on, what's your analysis? I know you won't admit that Pellegrini got out thought by a better tactician, so I'm dying to know what tonight was down to. Luck? Injuries? We woz robbed?

He did get beat by a better tactician but at the end of the day he got beat by one of the world best managers. Pellegrini is fantastic and in a short time frame has taken this club forward.

Have faith!

 

[dctid]

We've been fantastic the last couple of months & Pellers must take a great deal of credit for that. However, one thing that really does still worry me about the guy is an apparent lack of flexibility in his approach to the game.

4-4-2 has worked for us lately because, when everyone is fit, we have the players to dominate the opposition even if they flood the midfield (Bayern excepted). Without the likes of Aguero, Nasri and (more importantly) Fernandhino, this formation just isn't going to work against teams with players of similar ability in the middle of the field.

So, why is he seemingly unable to adapt our formation & tactics when the players he has available for a given game would be better suited to a different set up?

I think he knows better than you which players are fit, and what tactical set up they suit.

Worked well tonight didn't it?

Someone has already asked you the question (which you haven't answered yet)... would you have played with the same set up tonight?

The rigid 4 4 2 will cost us the title personally i now think its gone now - Mouriniho will now play percentage football knowing that LeArse are likely to blow up and we are always going to concede

I got fucking slated by posters for saying this but cant believe that people cant see it.

Tonight was unforgivable not in the sense that we lost but that we refused to change anything - tonight was a must not loose and MP blew it in his stupid fucking desire to score a bagful of goals. Barca could get very very painful

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Pellikeegan

Why not mention this over the past two month?

Or when we won away in Munich?

Or when we have blitzed nearly all of the big teams we have played?

Absolutely pathetic how some so called fans can come out with shit like this after one defeat!

I've mentioned many times over the season that I think Pellegrini is tactically naive.

For the record, I think he's doing a good job. Some of the football we have played this season has been brilliant. The first 30 minutes away at Spurs is possibly the best I've ever seen us play.

But because I like him and think he's doing a good job, doesn't mean he is above criticism. He openly admits that he sets his team up his way and he doesn't worry about the opposition. That to me in the modern game is naive and gives our opponents an advantage.

 

[moomba]

Re: Pellikeegan

Delete this stupid and pointless thread.

Its nothing but wumming.

 

[jay_mcfc]

What was Pellegrini supposed to do? Garcia and Ferna both injured. Milner just coming back from a long injury. Rodwell looked shit against Watford.

I don't think he likes Demichelis in midfield any more than we do. He's not stupid, he just lacked any other option to throw in midfield today.

There's a reason we were booking jets from Portugal during the transfer window. Txiki knew it too.

Spot on !

Not really. He could have played MDM in midfield and had Jovetic instead of Dzeko so Silva could play central and Yaya play a bit deeper. Also could have had Clichy instead of Kolarov just to shore up the defence. The game changed when Fernandinho was ruled out but MP only switched player for player when the incoming player was nowhere near the capabilities of the outgoing player. In a way I don't blame him for sticking with 4-4-2 because it's done him so well but imo he should have changed it tonight.

 

[argyle]

With an injury to Fern' it was very surprising that he tried to get us to play the same way with just the introduction of MDM. That **** Mourinho out classed him tonight.

 

[daztrueblue91]

Re: Pellikeegan

Why not mention this over the past two month?

Or when we won away in Munich?

Or when we have blitzed nearly all of the big teams we have played?

Absolutely pathetic how some so called fans can come out with shit like this after one defeat!

I've mentioned many times over the season that I think Pellegrini is tactically naive.

For the record, I think he's doing a good job. Some of the football we have played this season has been brilliant. The first 30 minutes away at Spurs is possibly the best I've ever seen us play.

But because I like him and think he's doing a good job, doesn't mean he is above criticism. He openly admits that he sets his team up his way and he doesn't worry about the opposition. That to me in the modern game is naive and gives our opponents an advantage.

By all means criticise the manager or players after a defeat but do it in the match day thread. Don't start a new one to slag off our manager it just seems petty and uncalled for. You're coming across like your glad Pelle fucked up so you can prove a point.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

We've been fantastic the last couple of months & Pellers must take a great deal of credit for that. However, one thing that really does still worry me about the guy is an apparent lack of flexibility in his approach to the game.

4-4-2 has worked for us lately because, when everyone is fit, we have the players to dominate the opposition even if they flood the midfield (Bayern excepted). Without the likes of Aguero, Nasri and (more importantly) Fernandhino, this formation just isn't going to work against teams with players of similar ability in the middle of the field.

So, why is he seemingly unable to adapt our formation & tactics when the players he has available for a given game would be better suited to a different set up?

I think he knows better than you which players are fit, and what tactical set up they suit.

Didn't look like it tonight Billy to be fair. The outcome, and more crucially the performance, looked odds on as soon as the team sheets came out. How Dimichelis stayed on that pitch for 90 minutes was beyond me

 

[City Raider]

Luck plays such a role and Fernandinho was just worse possible break for us. I pray MP isn't, as has been said, just a really unlucky manager.