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Re: Discuss Pellegirini...
A cracking post from top to bottom Matty.
I think it's fair to say from Soriano's own words that the club hierarchy don't see management appointments in terms of long dynasties ala Ferguson or Wenger, but rather cycles of 3 -5 years. What will be important moving forward as you allude to above, is continuity both on the field and off the field. This absolutely feeds into the idea of developing your own managers in house, but it also forces you as a club to ensure that basic footballing principles remain intact and any managerial appointment must first adhere to those principles.
To put it another way, and I know it can feel contentious at times, but it basically means success isn't the be all and end all of what we're building. Success will follow, in the eyes of the executive team and I suppose by extension Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour, from adhering to certain footballing and non footballing principles and allowing them to become the identity of the club.
Pellegrini ticked all the most important boxes last summer (if you accept that success alone in terms of trophies wasn't an important box which it clearly wasn't) and has so far shown to be capable of not only working within the structure the club provide, but doing so in a manner which also incorporates actually tangible (trophy) success. That's not to say there won't be failures or moments where he doesn't succeed, but the pressure which will come to bare on him if he has a poor season will not be the kind of scrutiny Mancini was under last season because ultimately he's a good fit as a manager and by virtue of this will be afforded more time/space than someone who actively kicks against the structure the club has.
Matty said:I don't believe Pellegrini is the long term answer, I'd be very surprised if he was our manager in 5 years time, and I'd be astounded if he was still here in 10 years. What he is, however, is perfect for the here and now. If I were to guess at where our footballing directors, and our owner, would like Manchester City to be, in terms of managerial appointments in the future then I's say they would very much like to create a conveyor belt of managers within the club. When your manager leaves, or is fired, then someone from within our (hopefully) hugely successful academy structure could step forward. Someone like Vieira, or an as yet unknown name. It's the way Barcelona tried to do it, with the inexperienced Guardiola coming from inside the club, and the unfortunate Tito Vilanova. It may not always work, and we may need to bring in external support, but the aim I believe will be to try and develop our own staff.
A cracking post from top to bottom Matty.
I think it's fair to say from Soriano's own words that the club hierarchy don't see management appointments in terms of long dynasties ala Ferguson or Wenger, but rather cycles of 3 -5 years. What will be important moving forward as you allude to above, is continuity both on the field and off the field. This absolutely feeds into the idea of developing your own managers in house, but it also forces you as a club to ensure that basic footballing principles remain intact and any managerial appointment must first adhere to those principles.
To put it another way, and I know it can feel contentious at times, but it basically means success isn't the be all and end all of what we're building. Success will follow, in the eyes of the executive team and I suppose by extension Khaldoon and Sheikh Mansour, from adhering to certain footballing and non footballing principles and allowing them to become the identity of the club.
Pellegrini ticked all the most important boxes last summer (if you accept that success alone in terms of trophies wasn't an important box which it clearly wasn't) and has so far shown to be capable of not only working within the structure the club provide, but doing so in a manner which also incorporates actually tangible (trophy) success. That's not to say there won't be failures or moments where he doesn't succeed, but the pressure which will come to bare on him if he has a poor season will not be the kind of scrutiny Mancini was under last season because ultimately he's a good fit as a manager and by virtue of this will be afforded more time/space than someone who actively kicks against the structure the club has.