Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

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FantasyIreland said:
The same back four and a five man midfield......what the majority have been calling for........equals some of the best football of our season and six wins on the bounce.

So why,when it was so obviously the best strategy for our team.......was such an approach not adopted throughout the season?

The end to this campaign has papered the cracks somewhat but square pegs in round holes and rotation for the hell of it have cost us dearly this season.............subsequently,12 more months of a manager who cant see what's best for his team concerns me.

Yup, concerns me too.
 
It would be madness to keep Pellegrini when Klopp and most likely Ancelotti are going to be available this summer.

If English clubs don't wise up and dump the mediocre managers then sooner rather than later we're going to lose the 4th CL spot. Letting Ancelotti go back to Milan would be stupid as hell. Plus both of these managers are better than Guardiola anyway.
 
GHoddle said:
It would be madness to keep Pellegrini when Klopp and most likely Ancelotti are going to be available this summer.

If English clubs don't wise up and dump the mediocre managers then sooner rather than later we're going to lose the 4th CL spot. Letting Ancelotti go back to Milan would be stupid as hell. Plus both of these managers are better than Guardiola anyway.
The only manager I would change Pellegrini for, would be Klopp. Ancelotti will take a year off, so he won't be available.
 
andersmcfcdk said:
GHoddle said:
It would be madness to keep Pellegrini when Klopp and most likely Ancelotti are going to be available this summer.

If English clubs don't wise up and dump the mediocre managers then sooner rather than later we're going to lose the 4th CL spot. Letting Ancelotti go back to Milan would be stupid as hell. Plus both of these managers are better than Guardiola anyway.
The only manager I would change Pellegrini for, would be Klopp. Ancelotti will take a year off, so he won't be available.

I'm pretty sure Ancelotti would take a job in the Premier League if one is available.

And Klopp is definitely available so I don't understand why there doesn't seem to be movement from City in that direction. It would be idiotic not to get him if he's available, one of the world's best managers.
 
GHoddle said:
I'm pretty sure Ancelotti would take a job in the Premier League if one is available.
I think he would too. Seems like the safe thing for him to say that he would take a year off.
 
GHoddle said:
andersmcfcdk said:
GHoddle said:
It would be madness to keep Pellegrini when Klopp and most likely Ancelotti are going to be available this summer.

If English clubs don't wise up and dump the mediocre managers then sooner rather than later we're going to lose the 4th CL spot. Letting Ancelotti go back to Milan would be stupid as hell. Plus both of these managers are better than Guardiola anyway.
The only manager I would change Pellegrini for, would be Klopp. Ancelotti will take a year off, so he won't be available.

I'm pretty sure Ancelotti would take a job in the Premier League if one is available.

And Klopp is definitely available so I don't understand why there doesn't seem to be movement from City in that direction. It would be idiotic not to get him if he's available, one of the world's best managers.


Because he isnt a yes man and the 2 upstairs want a yes man... simple as.
 
GHoddle said:
It would be madness to keep Pellegrini when Klopp and most likely Ancelotti are going to be available this summer.

If English clubs don't wise up and dump the mediocre managers then sooner rather than later we're going to lose the 4th CL spot. Letting Ancelotti go back to Milan would be stupid as hell. Plus both of these managers are better than Guardiola anyway.
The change in seeding is going to make it even harder for the English clubs again.

Top seeding virtually guarantees you passage into the next stage, which is what Utd and Arsenal used to get. Every season City have had a Bayern Munich or Barcelona and that takes a lot of energy and resources.

No doubt the English top 4 are way weaker than in the past.

I think City are more or less certain to stick with Pellegrini unless Guardiola leaves Bayern, and that looks 50/50 as his contract is winding down and he doesn't appear willing to extend it

I thought Pellegrini had totally lost the dressing room, We fell apart for 2 months after being joint top with Chelsea on New Years day but at least we finished strongly which suggests he still has the players behind him. I'd change manager too, but only for guardiola.......assuming he's coming here in 12 months. If he isn't, then I'd go for either of the managers you mention.
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
FantasyIreland said:
The same back four and a five man midfield......what the majority have been calling for........equals some of the best football of our season and six wins on the bounce.

So why,when it was so obviously the best strategy for our team.......was such an approach not adopted throughout the season?

The end to this campaign has papered the cracks somewhat but square pegs in round holes and rotation for the hell of it have cost us dearly this season.............subsequently,12 more months of a manager who cant see what's best for his team concerns me.

Yup, concerns me too.

I'm surprised that you both haven't seen the change in the last six games as a positive. After nearly two years of talking about using a pure 433 system with a lone striker, seems clear that Pellegrini has made the shift. The fact that Dzeko and Jovetic have been iced out of the side and the fact that we're not seemingly in the market for a top line striker this summer suggests to me that this switch from playing two up front is permanent.

We won't know definitively until next season starts but the change in the last six games wasn't to my eyes or to my mind born out of necessity due to injuries - it was a clear change in playing shape which has been worked on in training and which I would suggest will be used regularly moving forward.
 
buzzer1 said:
Because he isnt a yes man and the 2 upstairs want a yes man... simple as.

I wonder if this attitude is a generational thing. Strikes me that there's a certain age demographic who are deeply mistrusting of Txiki and Ferran and their management speak. All I can say is there's little point standing in the way of progress. Top football clubs are all run by committee these days and City are no different. Trying though to paint the management team as people who want a "yes man" coaching the first team is deeply unfair on both Pellegrini, and the club's owners.
 
BillyShears said:
buzzer1 said:
Because he isnt a yes man and the 2 upstairs want a yes man... simple as.

I wonder if this attitude is a generational thing. Strikes me that there's a certain age demographic who are deeply mistrusting of Txiki and Ferran and their management speak. All I can say is there's little point standing in the way of progress. Top football clubs are all run by committee these days and City are no different. Trying though to paint the management team as people who want a "yes man" coaching the first team is deeply unfair on both Pellegrini, and the club's owners.

It's because they're Spanish.

Yes it really is that stupid.
 
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