Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

haha okay you've made your point.

you're ;-)

If he starts Dzeko with Aguero tomorrow then I fucking give up.

Hahah i dont think he will though mate...think he's learnt that playing 2 up top against good sides away from home is basically asking for defeat. Well we hope he has

I wouldn't put money on it!

 

[PragueBlue]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Oh it's the 50 IQ brigade again not understanding stark differences. If you can't see a difference between Mancini's toxic atmosphere, not winning a single CL game his last season, and losing to a soon-to-be-relegated team in the cup final, then there is no hope for you. Go on talking tactics like you actually have a fucking clue.

Do you think Pellegrini has created a toxic situation in the dressing room and around the club?
If you say yes, show some proof.

Do you think Pellegrini has done near as fucking hopelessly as Mancini in Europe?
If you say yes, you're just a fool because there's no way anyone could argue that.

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

I think most of you fucks just like to slag off the guy who has some class and isn't up in the technical area calling the opposing manager a "c**t". 6-7 years ago we would have all been hoping that the club didn't sack someone like Pellegrini, but here we are... unabashed entitlement.

I would suggest the results are a fair indication that all is not well. Our worst run of form for a few years. Players losing form due to being constantly chopped and changed. Rigidly sticking to a system that is not working.

He has us in 4th position and is danger of not automatically qualifying for the CL. We went out of one cup at home to a very understrength Newcastle and out of the other cup at home to a team from the championship. In the CL we just scraped through but we went out as soon as we came up against one of the better teams.

Personally I am not too bothered whether he is a nice and classy guy or not (and I have no idea whether he really is or isn't). He is here to do a job and isn't doing it very well at present. Just as it was time to part company with Mancini, it probably is time to call an end to Pellegrini's time here at the end of the season.

 

[moomba]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

Are we talking about the loss to Wigan when Mancini was manager or the loss with Pellegrini as manager. As I'm pretty sure we havent lost to Reading since Sven was in charge.

 

[moomba]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Wow have times changed. I remember about 2 years ago I was among maybe 4 people on here saying Mancini had to go.

4?

 

[IWasHere]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

Are we talking about the loss to Wigan when Mancini was manager or the loss with Pellegrini as manager. As I'm pretty sure we havent lost to Reading since Sven was in charge.

He's on a wind up mate

 

[Phil1]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Oh it's the 50 IQ brigade again not understanding stark differences. If you can't see a difference between Mancini's toxic atmosphere, not winning a single CL game his last season, and losing to a soon-to-be-relegated team in the cup final, then there is no hope for you. Go on talking tactics like you actually have a fucking clue.

Do you think Pellegrini has created a toxic situation in the dressing room and around the club?
If you say yes, show some proof.

Do you think Pellegrini has done near as fucking hopelessly as Mancini in Europe?
If you say yes, you're just a fool because there's no way anyone could argue that.

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

I think most of you fucks just like to slag off the guy who has some class and isn't up in the technical area calling the opposing manager a "c**t". 6-7 years ago we would have all been hoping that the club didn't sack someone like Pellegrini, but here we are... unabashed entitlement.

Mancini didn't deliver in Europe, fell out with too many behind the scene and was rightly sacked.
Pellegrini, just about got us through to the last 16 where we were soundly beaten yet has seen our form plummet to unacceptable levels whilst shoehorning players into a system who don't suit. He's pushed on with 2 up front even though we're getting found out week after week. He should be sacked because of this, not wherever or not he's a nice bloke who gets on with everybody.
The rest of your post just seems like an angry rant from one of those 50 IQ brigade you were chatting about..

 

[Danielmanc]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Oh it's the 50 IQ brigade again not understanding stark differences. If you can't see a difference between Mancini's toxic atmosphere, not winning a single CL game his last season, and losing to a soon-to-be-relegated team in the cup final, then there is no hope for you. Go on talking tactics like you actually have a fucking clue.

Do you think Pellegrini has created a toxic situation in the dressing room and around the club?
If you say yes, show some proof.

Do you think Pellegrini has done near as fucking hopelessly as Mancini in Europe?
If you say yes, you're just a fool because there's no way anyone could argue that.

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

I think most of you fucks just like to slag off the guy who has some class and isn't up in the technical area calling the opposing manager a "c**t". 6-7 years ago we would have all been hoping that the club didn't sack someone like Pellegrini, but here we are... unabashed entitlement.

At least Roberto got us to Wembley that season - unlike Manuel who engineered his way out of both cup competitions. early and in a totally pathetic manner. Roberto also had us firmly in second - Manual has engineered us into a scrap for 4th / 5th place as we currently stand,

 

[baildon blue]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Wow have times changed. I remember about 2 years ago I was among maybe 4 people on here saying Mancini had to go. Mancini had put us 11 points behind the rags, lost to Wigan in the cup final, failed to get out of the group stage and win a single match in that year's Champions League campaign, and had clearly created a massively toxic environment in all levels of the club... but the majority supported him.

Two years later we've made it into the final 16 twice, won League Cup and Premier League, and only in the past few weeks dropped out of second place, and almost everyone is fucking him off. Not a single one of you know tactics half as well as Pellegrini, but think you have the solution. It's comical, really. Support our fucking manager and get behind the team you fucking turncoat c**ts. Stop bleeding into your panties and get behind the team so we can at least make 2nd place.

Dickheads like this are what put me right off Internet forums.

On the wind up is deathred .
I can understand a bit of his argument .
But at the end of the day Pellergrini made our defence a complete shambles .
And for that he should get the CHOP .

 

[PragueBlue]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

Are we talking about the loss to Wigan when Mancini was manager or the loss with Pellegrini as manager. As I'm pretty sure we havent lost to Reading since Sven was in charge.

And he cunningly ignores the fact that Mancini took over a team that hadn't won anything in years and was outside the CL places and of course it took a couple of seasons from there, whereas Pellegrini took over a team that had finished 1st and 2nd in the previous 2 seasons.

Both have achieved a great deal with us and rightfully will have a prominent place in our history but it was the right time for Mancini to go and the end of this season is probably going to be the same for Pellegrini.

 

[kalouk]

Re: Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini (2014/15)

Oh it's the 50 IQ brigade again not understanding stark differences. If you can't see a difference between Mancini's toxic atmosphere, not winning a single CL game his last season, and losing to a soon-to-be-relegated team in the cup final, then there is no hope for you. Go on talking tactics like you actually have a fucking clue.

Do you think Pellegrini has created a toxic situation in the dressing room and around the club?
If you say yes, show some proof.

Do you think Pellegrini has done near as fucking hopelessly as Mancini in Europe?
If you say yes, you're just a fool because there's no way anyone could argue that.

Did Pellegrini win the same number of trophies in his first year as manager as Mancini did in 3? Even after Mancini left us with a team that would lose to Wigan, and then a few weeks later Reading? Yep.

I think most of you fucks just like to slag off the guy who has some class and isn't up in the technical area calling the opposing manager a "c**t". 6-7 years ago we would have all been hoping that the club didn't sack someone like Pellegrini, but here we are... unabashed entitlement.

I would suggest the results are a fair indication that all is not well. Our worst run of form for a few years. Players losing form due to being constantly chopped and changed. Rigidly sticking to a system that is not working.

He has us in 4th position and is danger of not automatically qualifying for the CL. We went out of one cup at home to a very understrength Newcastle and out of the other cup at home to a team from the championship. In the CL we just scraped through but we went out as soon as we came up against one of the better teams.

Personally I am not too bothered whether he is a nice and classy guy or not (and I have no idea whether he really is or isn't). He is here to do a job and isn't doing it very well at present. Just as it was time to part company with Mancini, it probably is time to call an end to Pellegrini's time here at the end of the season.

How long can we keep doing this for though? We did it with Mancini and now a season and a half later we are ready to do the same to Pellegrini. A matter of months ago we were joint top with Chelsea, we haven't been playing well but it doesn't mean it's permanent. Mourinho is a top manager, he won nothing last year and finished third it happens. We are going to have to stand behind a manager soon or we are going to run out of options quickly at this rate.