Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

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I've been in the bath drinking lots of booze and I have ONE Question...


Has he gone yet ?
 
chesterbells said:
kalouk said:
welsh_andy said:
look at it this way, rwice in a row we took title, next season all at sea, well least bob got us up there, 2 different managers same players, roughly. common denominator is the players. certain players are just as responsible if not more, thank mp for what hes done, but sadly his time is up, we need either a strong manager that can stand up to the dressing room, or root and branch sort out, either way it may get messy

I agree with this and it bothers me. I don't have any blind devotion to Pellegrini if I get up tomorrow and he has gone so be it. It grates on me that people seem to accept the players have decided to down tools again or not playing for him, some even saying they don't blame them. If it was once maybe but twice with completely different managers it's not right. People will say he should motivate the players, it's his job. I would question whether players who have played at the highest standards of football should need that much motivating. Surely the position we find ourselves in at the moment should be enough.They are not children. People blame Pellegrini's calm manner but let's not forget Mancini would be apoplectic on the touchline and that didn't do him much good with them either. I am not absolving either managers of blame but be honest what we watched today was dire and I hold the players barring Fernandinho and Aguero as responsible if not more.

Of course they need motivating; everyone does. It doesnt matter if they are adults, children, good players, bad players, well paid or not.
It is 100% part of the managers job - and he is doing it very poorly.

Agree
BUT those twats that were out there today owe it to US to do what is right for the people who pay their wages, and today I saw a bunch of overpaid mard arses spitting out their dummies in front of the worlds TV. I can not find words to explain the way I feel about that shower of shite that went out to represent OUR football club
 
Ray78 said:
sam-caddick said:
Ray78 said:
Vieira turns the job down and then what?

As if he would turn it down, he wins all the games and he is a contender for the job permanently, if not he can go back working with the EDS.

Anything is better than Pellegrini at the moment in my opinion.

What if the club has their candidate already lined up in the summer and is ready to take over? I would imagine he would not be too happy with that arrangement.

I just think Manuel has to go now or we risk sliding into 5th, he has lost the dressing room by the looks of it.
 
sam-caddick said:
Ray78 said:
sam-caddick said:
As if he would turn it down, he wins all the games and he is a contender for the job permanently, if not he can go back working with the EDS.

Anything is better than Pellegrini at the moment in my opinion.

What if the club has their candidate already lined up in the summer and is ready to take over? I would imagine he would not be too happy with that arrangement.

I just think Manuel has to go now or we risk sliding into 5th, he has lost the dressing room by the looks of it.

How by the looks of it
 
chesterbells said:
kalouk said:
welsh_andy said:
look at it this way, rwice in a row we took title, next season all at sea, well least bob got us up there, 2 different managers same players, roughly. common denominator is the players. certain players are just as responsible if not more, thank mp for what hes done, but sadly his time is up, we need either a strong manager that can stand up to the dressing room, or root and branch sort out, either way it may get messy

I agree with this and it bothers me. I don't have any blind devotion to Pellegrini if I get up tomorrow and he has gone so be it. It grates on me that people seem to accept the players have decided to down tools again or not playing for him, some even saying they don't blame them. If it was once maybe but twice with completely different managers it's not right. People will say he should motivate the players, it's his job. I would question whether players who have played at the highest standards of football should need that much motivating. Surely the position we find ourselves in at the moment should be enough.They are not children. People blame Pellegrini's calm manner but let's not forget Mancini would be apoplectic on the touchline and that didn't do him much good with them either. I am not absolving either managers of blame but be honest what we watched today was dire and I hold the players barring Fernandinho and Aguero as responsible if not more.

Of course they need motivating; everyone does. It doesnt matter if they are adults, children, good players, bad players, well paid or not.
It is 100% part of the managers job - and he is doing it very poorly.

Come on, these are top players, some of which have played in the biggest competitions in football and they need someone to motivate them for a derby that they know could lift us from our current precarious position. If so then imo they are acting like children. If that is being given as a reason for the crap they served up today then they should be ashamed.
 
sam-caddick said:
Ray78 said:
sam-caddick said:
As if he would turn it down, he wins all the games and he is a contender for the job permanently, if not he can go back working with the EDS.

Anything is better than Pellegrini at the moment in my opinion.

What if the club has their candidate already lined up in the summer and is ready to take over? I would imagine he would not be too happy with that arrangement.

I just think Manuel has to go now or we risk sliding into 5th, he has lost the dressing room by the looks of it.

He maybe 60 years old but surely he should by now where the dressing room is. But to be serious the board will stick to their guns on this and they will not sack Pellegrini at this stage.
 
grim up north said:
sam-caddick said:
Ray78 said:
What if the club has their candidate already lined up in the summer and is ready to take over? I would imagine he would not be too happy with that arrangement.

I just think Manuel has to go now or we risk sliding into 5th, he has lost the dressing room by the looks of it.

How by the looks of it

Those players don't look like they are all going out playing for Manuel, they look a set of lost individuals who don't know any tactical plan to play out and don't look at all motivated.

The way we crumbled after they scored today and the way we just looked like we couldn't be bothered despite scoring a second with 5 mins to go and them having ten men was a disgrace.
 
spanishblue said:
chesterbells said:
kalouk said:
I agree with this and it bothers me. I don't have any blind devotion to Pellegrini if I get up tomorrow and he has gone so be it. It grates on me that people seem to accept the players have decided to down tools again or not playing for him, some even saying they don't blame them. If it was once maybe but twice with completely different managers it's not right. People will say he should motivate the players, it's his job. I would question whether players who have played at the highest standards of football should need that much motivating. Surely the position we find ourselves in at the moment should be enough.They are not children. People blame Pellegrini's calm manner but let's not forget Mancini would be apoplectic on the touchline and that didn't do him much good with them either. I am not absolving either managers of blame but be honest what we watched today was dire and I hold the players barring Fernandinho and Aguero as responsible if not more.

Of course they need motivating; everyone does. It doesnt matter if they are adults, children, good players, bad players, well paid or not.
It is 100% part of the managers job - and he is doing it very poorly.

Agree
BUT those twats that were out there today owe it to US to do what is right for the people who pay their wages, and today I saw a bunch of overpaid mard arses spitting out their dummies in front of the worlds TV. I can not find words to explain the way I feel about that shower of shite that went out to represent OUR football club

Maybe you cant find the words mate, but the manager should be able to, so that he tells those players in no uncertain terms - its his job.

I actually thought there was plenty of effort on show from the likes of Milner, but having a centre half who comes on and doesnt seem to know how we play our offside line, and poor defensive play at the back post - and yes, I'll agree Toure not matching Fellani - doesnt help much
 
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