Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[FanchesterCity]

Laurent Blanc could be likely to join the managerial merry-go-round.
It's going to be in interesting summer. PSG will be a very attractive destination for a top manager and a rival for any manager we're looking at.

 

[sir baconface]

Without wishing to seem like I wear blue tinted glasses, I do find the majority of this thread, and ones very similar to it, somewhat depressing. I appreciate this season has been as disappointing as two seasons ago and I am in no way an apologist for our current manager. In fact, I tend to agree that his time may well be up.
What I would say is that the pram currently has no toys in it. The reactions on here are a mixture of:
Team and manager going through a rough patch? Get rid of them all.
Winning 4 trophies, from as poor a starting point as we were, in 3 years out of 5? Not having that, it's not good enough. In fact, it's so bad, I'm not going anymore!

It is undeniable that this season has been disappointing to say the least, and I know full well that people can use statistics to cover a multitude of sins but here goes.

Most shots, most shots on target, most shots in the penalty area, least number of shots against, least number of shots against which were on target. Most possession, most number of passes and second most accurate passes (0.1% behind). All these stats are City.
What this suggests is that things aren't quite as bad as they appear and, as ever, it's shades of grey, rather than being black and white.
We now have 6 games to put our differences and reservations aside and back this team we have. This team that have given us monumentally more ups than downs. I, for one, will be there on Sunday, supporting them until the game is over.
CTID

The frustrations boil down to one word: underachievement.

 

[Damocles]

Sounds like someone has been reading graham hunters book. You keep going on about holistic this and that but end of the day football is won by 11 players on a pitch Galvanised by an organised manager who gets the best out of people. Liverpool and united didn't need directors of football when they were the powerhouses in Europe. Don't see why we do tbh

Because Liverpool and United won 20-30 years ago and football has changed as a business drastically since then.

When you had managers that built squads whose job was always around for 5-10 years then you can have the old model. When you have the average life of a manager at 5-10 months you can't.

That's a flawed argument though. Why follow a trend because it's a trend? Ferguson and Wenger weren't 20 - 30 years ago either. Plus importantly what it takes to win football matches isn't a director of football and never will be imo

It's not a trend. It's a complete change to how football businesses are run and has been adopted by almost every club in every country in the known footballing world.

This is like suggesting that we should ride a horse and these cars things are just a trend. Even most English clubs including City have used a DoF model for years. We won the title in 11/12 with a DoF. Chelsea have a DoF. So do Barca, both Madrids, Bayern, Dortmund, both Milans, basically everybody in the world.

Ferguson always had a DoF in Bobby Charlton though he was less hands on than the modern roles. Wenger grew up in a time before they were popular and has resisted one and look what he's done over the past 10 years - nothing for a club the size of Arsenal.

Nobody is suggesting that to win football matches you need a DoF. The suggestion is to consistently win football matches over many years you need a DoF now because giving managers carte blanche over transfers when the average appointment only lasts a year or so waste hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds, and gets you pretty much nowhere. Also that the modern manager role has grown too big for them to be fucking about negotiating transfer fees and the like with other people or sit negotiating contracts with agents.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

whilst we read hundreds of judgmental, hypothetical theories that form the opinions of most people are on here, let's just remember that Txiki's remit also included the academy restructuring, and appointing Vieira to the EDS and Wilcox to the U18 side, as well as youth player recruitment, which has been very exciting. So let's just consider these things rather than decide what Txiki and Ferran must be thinking, what they've decided to do without any knowledge or insight, about decisions that have yet to be made and things that may happen if a certain situation occurred, and then slate them and dismiss them because of that illogical misconception.

 

[bondsman]

What in your mind does a DoF do

Well other than buy players I don't see what tbh. They aren't coaching are they? If we were to judge ours only on his transfer activity he's bloody hopeless. You don't need a dof to brand a club or promote it either. Winning trophies does that.

He buys players!

Well done you can read but maybe work on not being so literal

 

[grim up north]

Key ingredients for me are a chairman willing to invest. A manager who knows how to get the best out of players he has and how to spot players who will strengthen team. And players who want to win. Dof unnecessary imo

So we just need a chairman and a manager

 

[Leech]

Laurent Blanc could be likely to join the managerial merry-go-round.
It's going to be in interesting summer. PSG will be a very attractive destination for a top manager and a rival for any manager we're looking at.

We'll get any manager above PSG for the simple fact that they're in Ligue 1. Managers tend to look at a bigger picture than players.

 

[bondsman]

Key ingredients for me are a chairman willing to invest. A manager who knows how to get the best out of players he has and how to spot players who will strengthen team. And players who want to win. Dof unnecessary imo

So we just need a chairman and a manager

Now I'm not sure you can read. Did you miss the bit about players? What else do we need? A tea lady who gets on with the manager?

 

[grim up north]

Well other than buy players I don't see what tbh. They aren't coaching are they? If we were to judge ours only on his transfer activity he's bloody hopeless. You don't need a dof to brand a club or promote it either. Winning trophies does that.

He buys players!

Well done you can read but maybe work on not being so literal

Thanks for the tip but I watch football in the 21st century

 

[grim up north]

Key ingredients for me are a chairman willing to invest. A manager who knows how to get the best out of players he has and how to spot players who will strengthen team. And players who want to win. Dof unnecessary imo

So we just need a chairman and a manager

Now I'm not sure you can read. Did you miss the bit about players? What else do we need? A tea lady who gets on with the manager?

Yes I wasn't being so literal.