Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[grim up north]

Key ingredients for me are a chairman willing to invest. A manager who knows how to get the best out of players he has and how to spot players who will strengthen team. And players who want to win. Dof unnecessary imo

Who should the 100 strong international scouting team report?

Let's say a Chief Scout.

Ok, now who should be bothered to go and negotiate with agents in often hours long legal meetings?

Let's say a Chief Negotiator.

Now who can report to the board in all of their endless meetings and talk about the potential impacts of any new business decision on the footballing side?

Let's say a Chief Analyst.

But who does Yaya Toure's agent get on the phone to every day demanding a new TV for his residence because Kompany's is bigger?

Let's say that we have Chief Housekeeper.

Who interviews potential candidates for top positions in the medical departments or the nutrition departments that care for players?

Let's say a Chief Interviewer.

Who is looking at the composition of each squad over the next 5 years rather than the next 5 games, with good knowledge of both the scouting departments and the Academy, and basing purchasing decision off of them?

Let's say a Chief Squad Specialist

What about liaising with the Academy in terms of player recruitment and possible promotion candidates from the Under 13s to Under 15s?

Let's say Chief Academy Manager.

In fact instead we could really combine all of these roles into one person who does all of the stuff that used to get in a manager's way of preparing for the next game and allow them to sort of be a Head of the "Football Department" so we have a clear chain of command and a football intelligent person who can handle all of these problems that aren't really to do with one specific team but are instead problems with the business logistics.

We'll combine them all and call him a Director of Football.

Or let experts in each role do them jobs not a jack of all trades master of none?

Good plan

 

[dobobobo]

Re: klopp for city

COCK AND FANNY!

I don't rate either. We've already got players of that ilk.

True, we've even got a Trannie... but will we sell Yaya before his final op? In a few weeks time we will know.

 

[carlosthejackal]

It's not a trend. It's a complete change to how football businesses are run and has been adopted by almost every club in every country in the known footballing world.

This is like suggesting that we should ride a horse and these cars things are just a trend. Even most English clubs including City have used a DoF model for years. We won the title in 11/12 with a DoF. Chelsea have a DoF. So do Barca, both Madrids, Bayern, Dortmund, both Milans, basically everybody in the world.

Ferguson always had a DoF in Bobby Charlton though he was less hands on than the modern roles. Wenger grew up in a time before they were popular and has resisted one and look what he's done over the past 10 years - nothing for a club the size of Arsenal.

Nobody is suggesting that to win football matches you need a DoF. The suggestion is to consistently win football matches over many years you need a DoF now because giving managers carte blanche over transfers when the average appointment only lasts a year or so waste hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds, and gets you pretty much nowhere. Also that the modern manager role has grown too big for them to be fucking about negotiating transfer fees and the like with other people or sit negotiating contracts with agents.

Bollocks that Bobby charlton was ferguson a director of football.

I saw him as an over-promoted club legend/ambassador - never a Director of Football.

I always had him down as a ticket tout

 

[Chi-town blues]

Re: klopp for city

How do you start a thread with less than 100 posts?

Bribe the mods ;)

 

[dobobobo]

Re: klopp for city

How do you start a thread with less than 100 posts?

It's 10 posts, iirc.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Re: klopp for city

For fuck's sake.

 

[sir baconface]

I was going back further than the scousers' last few years and attempting to demonstrate why neither club felt they needed a DoF at the time.

Yes, the rags' post-Bacon shenanigans suggest one might have been useful but I repeat: could you see the old piss can wearing it?

Edit: this was in response to Damo's points.

 

[Barcon]

Re: klopp for city

How do you start a thread with less than 100 posts?

It's 10 posts, iirc.

Since when? Anyway what's wrong with the other Klopp thread?

 

[moon]

Re: klopp for city

How do you start a thread with less than 100 posts?

Bribe the mods ;)

or just use the 358 post existing thread :-)

 

[dobobobo]

Re: klopp for city

For fuck's sake.

I think it's a Mod piss up tonight and Damocles drew the short straw.