Ray78 said:IWasHere said:Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:Would be devastating to miss out on a top manager (Klopp for me) in favour of keeping Pellegrini.
Not just devastating but absolutely fucking stupid, as well.
It wouldn't be devastating at all, Borussia Dortmund are having a worse season than what we are currently dishing up.
babyajay said:Ray78 said:
It wouldn't be devastating at all, Borussia Dortmund are having a worse season than what we are currently dishing up.
Just look at the clubs Klopp is being linked with since he's become available, do you really think come the summer, when let's be honest Pellegrini should be out of a job, those clubs will be after or even being linked with Pellers? Not a chance. He's a good manager, not a great one.
What Klopp has achieved in football, with limited resources might I add, is phenomenal.
Get Klopp in and stop gambling on Guardiola.
Ray78 said:babyajay said:Ray78 said:It wouldn't be devastating at all, Borussia Dortmund are having a worse season than what we are currently dishing up.
Just look at the clubs Klopp is being linked with since he's become available, do you really think come the summer, when let's be honest Pellegrini should be out of a job, those clubs will be after or even being linked with Pellers? Not a chance. He's a good manager, not a great one.
What Klopp has achieved in football, with limited resources might I add, is phenomenal.
Get Klopp in and stop gambling on Guardiola.
Finishing 19 and 27 points off Bayern doesn't fill me with confidence with Herr Klopp either.
TFC said:Thought this was a good read from Martin Samuel, he brings up some very interesting points. I think this seeming fascination with pep could easily end in tears....just remains to be seen if they will be tears of happiness or anger at having fucking wasted a year waiting for him.
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Why Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt's Bayern Munich exit should make Manchester City worry about Pep Guardiola
Long-serving Bayern Munich doctor Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt walked out on the club in the wake of their Champions League defeat in Porto
- Muller-Wohlfahrt's sudden departure suggests a clash of personalities.
- There have been rumours of tension with the Pep Guardiola regime
- Manchester City should tread carefully in their pursuit of the Bayern boss
By MARTIN SAMUEL - SPORT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt is not just any old sawbones. He was, for a time, International Rescue for the world’s leading athletes. Michael Owen says he saved his career; so does Jamie Redknapp.
His list of clients reads like a who’s who of modern sport: Jurgen Klinsmann, Usain Bolt, Steven Gerrard, Jose Maria Olazabal, Will Greenwood, Paula Radcliffe, Dame Kelly Holmes, Giorgio Chiellini, Darren Gough, Maurice Greene, the German national football team. He was also, from April 1, 1977 to last Thursday, the head physician for Bayern Munich.
He stepped down, following a 3-1 defeat in Porto, saying he would not accept the medical department being blamed for the result. Munich had a long injury list including Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery, David Alaba and Javi Martinez. They have had other lengthy absences this winter, such as Bastian Schweinsteiger, and named only three outfield substitutes in the recent win over Eintracht Frankfurt.
It is a good job UEFA’s Financial Fair Play rules as good as make it impossible for another team to win the Bundesliga or Bayern could really be in trouble.
Muller-Wohlfahrt may be 72 but after 38 years’ service he is unlikely to be much fazed by criticism and his sudden departure suggests a clash of personalities at the very top.
There have been rumours of tension with the Pep Guardiola regime almost since the start of last season when the coach objected to Muller-Wohlfahrt operating, not at the training ground, but at his private practice five miles away. This tension culminated in Thiago Alcantara being sent back to Ramon Cugat in Barcelona for treatment on a ligament injury — an embarrassing public snub for a doctor with Muller-Wohlfahrt’s reputation.
During a recent match with Bayer Leverkusen, Guardiola could be seen angrily addressing the medical staff behind him when Medhi Benatia suffered a muscle injury. He appeared to clap sarcastically in their faces.
Bayern Munich are facing an uphill task to reach the semi-finals after losing their first leg against Porto
In his resignation statement, Muller-Wohlfahrt — who took his son Kilian and assistants Peter Ueblacker and Lutz Hansel with him — spoke of a breakdown in trust. Guardiola denies a rift. ‘When a player is injured it is not the fault of the doctor,’ he said. ‘Injured is injured. We could have lost against Porto even if we had injured players available.’
Despite this, most regard friction with Guardiola as responsible for Muller-Wohlfahrt’s decision.
The myth with Guardiola, like many at Barcelona, is that he is a low-maintenance genius. There is no such thing. Muller-Wohlfahrt has seen 23 managerial appointments in his time at Bayern and most have been strong characters. He has worked happily with coaches as diverse as Franz Beckenbauer, Felix Magath, Giovanni Trapattoni and Ottmar Hitzfeld. Yet has anyone treated him as disrespectfully as Guardiola did against Leverkusen?
The coach has his own issues, of course. Maybe Guardiola fears his reputation coming under increasing scrutiny as achievements in the Bundesliga are devalued. With Munich having so many advantages domestically, he is going to be judged on how the club performs in Europe — and following last season’s 5-0 semi-final defeat by Real Madrid, to trail Porto 3-1 is awkward.
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the club chairman, is on record saying Guardiola will never be sacked, but letting his contract simply expire in 2016 — as the club did with Jupp Heynckes in 2013 — is a different matter. And where to then? The presumption is Manchester City. They appear increasingly desperate for this union to take place — to the extent that Manuel Pellegrini may be allowed to see out his final year to ensure the schedules coincide.
City’s problem here is that by so openly waiting for Guardiola’s crooked finger they are beginning to look rather small. They are too obvious, trying to catch his eye all the time.
‘Never buy a player who is taking a step down to join you,’ was George Graham’s adage. ‘They’ll act like they’re doing you a favour.’ City are running that risk.
Manchester City are keen to replace Manuel Pellegrini, under contract at the club until 2016, with Guardiola
Txiki Begiristain, City’s director of football, enjoys elevated status as the man closest to Guardiola and likeliest to get any deal over the line. This is handy as otherwise more would be made of the fact he has blown close to £200million on mediocre players that can barely make the team.
Yet what if Guardiola gets a better offer or, worse, City’s decline continues next season? How far are the club prepared to bend to get their man? Considering the way he saw off Muller-Wohlfahrt would they stretch to a gold stethoscope?
Yes, to engage Guardiola would be a fantastic coup for City — but not on any terms. The sudden resignation of a German institution is a glimpse of what can happen if a relationship becomes imbalanced.
Munich may live to regret it, particularly if Guardiola’s intention is to move on when his present contract ends anyway.
So City should at least tread carefully. If this is the power Guardiola wields at one of the biggest clubs in Europe imagine his boldness if he believes he is marrying below himself.
Martin Samuel has such a thought provoking writing style.BlueAnorak said:TFC said:Thought this was a good read from Martin Samuel, he brings up some very interesting points. I think this seeming fascination with pep could easily end in tears....just remains to be seen if they will be tears of happiness or anger at having fucking wasted a year waiting for him.
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A very good read.
Why Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt's Bayern Munich exit should make Manchester City worry about Pep Guardiola
Long-serving Bayern Munich doctor Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt walked out on the club in the wake of their Champions League defeat in Porto
- Muller-Wohlfahrt's sudden departure suggests a clash of personalities.
- There have been rumours of tension with the Pep Guardiola regime
- Manchester City should tread carefully in their pursuit of the Bayern boss
By MARTIN SAMUEL - SPORT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt is not just any old sawbones. He was, for a time, International Rescue for the world’s leading athletes. Michael Owen says he saved his career; so does Jamie Redknapp.
His list of clients reads like a who’s who of modern sport: Jurgen Klinsmann, Usain Bolt, Steven Gerrard, Jose Maria Olazabal, Will Greenwood, Paula Radcliffe, Dame Kelly Holmes, Giorgio Chiellini, Darren Gough, Maurice Greene, the German national football team. He was also, from April 1, 1977 to last Thursday, the head physician for Bayern Munich.
He stepped down, following a 3-1 defeat in Porto, saying he would not accept the medical department being blamed for the result. Munich had a long injury list including Arjen Robben, Franck Ribery, David Alaba and Javi Martinez. They have had other lengthy absences this winter, such as Bastian Schweinsteiger, and named only three outfield substitutes in the recent win over Eintracht Frankfurt.
It is a good job UEFA’s Financial Fair Play rules as good as make it impossible for another team to win the Bundesliga or Bayern could really be in trouble.
Muller-Wohlfahrt may be 72 but after 38 years’ service he is unlikely to be much fazed by criticism and his sudden departure suggests a clash of personalities at the very top.
There have been rumours of tension with the Pep Guardiola regime almost since the start of last season when the coach objected to Muller-Wohlfahrt operating, not at the training ground, but at his private practice five miles away. This tension culminated in Thiago Alcantara being sent back to Ramon Cugat in Barcelona for treatment on a ligament injury — an embarrassing public snub for a doctor with Muller-Wohlfahrt’s reputation.
During a recent match with Bayer Leverkusen, Guardiola could be seen angrily addressing the medical staff behind him when Medhi Benatia suffered a muscle injury. He appeared to clap sarcastically in their faces.
Bayern Munich are facing an uphill task to reach the semi-finals after losing their first leg against Porto
In his resignation statement, Muller-Wohlfahrt — who took his son Kilian and assistants Peter Ueblacker and Lutz Hansel with him — spoke of a breakdown in trust. Guardiola denies a rift. ‘When a player is injured it is not the fault of the doctor,’ he said. ‘Injured is injured. We could have lost against Porto even if we had injured players available.’
Despite this, most regard friction with Guardiola as responsible for Muller-Wohlfahrt’s decision.
The myth with Guardiola, like many at Barcelona, is that he is a low-maintenance genius. There is no such thing. Muller-Wohlfahrt has seen 23 managerial appointments in his time at Bayern and most have been strong characters. He has worked happily with coaches as diverse as Franz Beckenbauer, Felix Magath, Giovanni Trapattoni and Ottmar Hitzfeld. Yet has anyone treated him as disrespectfully as Guardiola did against Leverkusen?
The coach has his own issues, of course. Maybe Guardiola fears his reputation coming under increasing scrutiny as achievements in the Bundesliga are devalued. With Munich having so many advantages domestically, he is going to be judged on how the club performs in Europe — and following last season’s 5-0 semi-final defeat by Real Madrid, to trail Porto 3-1 is awkward.
Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the club chairman, is on record saying Guardiola will never be sacked, but letting his contract simply expire in 2016 — as the club did with Jupp Heynckes in 2013 — is a different matter. And where to then? The presumption is Manchester City. They appear increasingly desperate for this union to take place — to the extent that Manuel Pellegrini may be allowed to see out his final year to ensure the schedules coincide.
City’s problem here is that by so openly waiting for Guardiola’s crooked finger they are beginning to look rather small. They are too obvious, trying to catch his eye all the time.
‘Never buy a player who is taking a step down to join you,’ was George Graham’s adage. ‘They’ll act like they’re doing you a favour.’ City are running that risk.
Manchester City are keen to replace Manuel Pellegrini, under contract at the club until 2016, with Guardiola
Txiki Begiristain, City’s director of football, enjoys elevated status as the man closest to Guardiola and likeliest to get any deal over the line. This is handy as otherwise more would be made of the fact he has blown close to £200million on mediocre players that can barely make the team.
Yet what if Guardiola gets a better offer or, worse, City’s decline continues next season? How far are the club prepared to bend to get their man? Considering the way he saw off Muller-Wohlfahrt would they stretch to a gold stethoscope?
Yes, to engage Guardiola would be a fantastic coup for City — but not on any terms. The sudden resignation of a German institution is a glimpse of what can happen if a relationship becomes imbalanced.
Munich may live to regret it, particularly if Guardiola’s intention is to move on when his present contract ends anyway.
So City should at least tread carefully. If this is the power Guardiola wields at one of the biggest clubs in Europe imagine his boldness if he believes he is marrying below himself.
Ray78 said:IWasHere said:Big Yaya Wilko 12 said:Would be devastating to miss out on a top manager (Klopp for me) in favour of keeping Pellegrini.
Not just devastating but absolutely fucking stupid, as well.
It wouldn't be devastating at all, Borussia Dortmund are having a worse season than what we are currently dishing up.