Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[Paulmcfc2703]

19 points isn't great even with Bayern's dominance and they have spent money. The likes of Reus, Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang didn't come cheap.

Reus aside who is world class and to be fair he has been injured a lot this season, the likes of Mkhitaryan, Aubameyang, Immobile were bought for around 15m-20m.

Those players were replacing 40m pound players in Gotze and Lewandowski, so they hubs rightly suffered because of that, they cannot afford to pay 40m for a like for like replacement.

I wouldn't underestimate Dortmund's injuries over the past two seasons, maybe they have come because of Klopp's intense footballing style but the number of injuries has been ridiculous.

I am not taking the piss but I just don't get the hype.

What do you mean by don't get the hype?

The guy took a team who finished a couple of places above the relegation zone and hadn't finished in the top 5 for 5 years before he arrived to back to back titles within 3 years along with a cup to boot. He turned them into a genuine great team getting them to the CL final the year after the 2nd title. He practically revolutionised them.

Surprise surprise with Dortmund not having the financial power like others, have had the best players cherry picked season after season with last season's league top goalscorer leaving on a free.

He has taken Dortmund as far as they can go now because realistically despite competing on the pitch the realisation is that they have been punching way above their weight because the cannot compete financially with the big boys

 

[Summerbuzz]

I think we should be a bit cautious.

Bear in mind that Klopp's arrival on the market coincided perfectly with our acute "post-derby, can't-win-the-league, suddenly-behind-Utd, now-worried-about-top-four" crisis of confidence.

Responding to finding oneself in a vulnerable state by deciding the next available person (especially if they are charismatic) as your ideal, the one who will bring salvation, is a well-documented phenomena. And the usual outcomes don't make great reading.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Klopp's last two seasons' haven't been the most inspiring.

Last season Dortmund finished 2nd, lost the cup final to Bayern and reached the quarters of the CL.

And you want to keep Pellers over Klopp after this season after just stating that Dortmund were uninspiring last season?

So Pellegrini achieved more last season and is in a better league position this season, we could finish 2nd. We have also had a lot of injuries to our key players all season.

They lost their best midfielder last season (that guy who scored the winner in the World Cup final) and we spent another 100 million and this season have lost their star striker for nothing whilst we spent 40 million on a centre back.

Are you Pellegrini's agent?

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I think we should be a bit cautious.

Bear in mind that Klopp's arrival on the market coincided perfectly with our acute "post-derby, can't-win-the-league, suddenly-behind-Utd, now-worried-about-top-four" crisis of confidence.

Responding to finding oneself in a vulnerable state by deciding the next available person (especially if they are charismatic) as your ideal, the one who will bring salvation, is a well-documented phenomena. And the usual outcomes don't make great reading.

Don't get me wrong Klopp's availability has pushed him to the front but any of Klopp, Ancelotti or Pep whatever order you rank them or however you feel about them I am honestly staggered how people cannot see they are a step up from Pellegrini and if any of them are available we have to do everything we can to get them

 

[Ray78]

I think we should be a bit cautious.

Bear in mind that Klopp's arrival on the market coincided perfectly with our acute "post-derby, can't-win-the-league, suddenly-behind-Utd, now-worried-about-top-four" crisis of confidence.

Responding to finding oneself in a vulnerable state by deciding the next available person (especially if they are charismatic) as your ideal, the one who will bring salvation, is a well-documented phenomena. And the usual outcomes don't make great reading.

The voice of reason. Pellers is still employed by the club.

 

[kalouk]

Last season Dortmund finished 2nd, lost the cup final to Bayern and reached the quarters of the CL.

And you want to keep Pellers over Klopp after this season after just stating that Dortmund were uninspiring last season?

So Pellegrini achieved more last season and is in a better league position this season, we could finish 2nd. We have also had a lot of injuries to our key players all season.

They lost their best midfielder last season (that guy who scored the winner in the World Cup final) and we spent another 100 million and this season have lost their star striker for nothing whilst we spent 40 million on a centre back.

Are you Pellegrini's agent?

Just pointing out that over the last two seasons Pellegrini has achieved more. You are absolving Klopp of his poor season but won't do the same for Pellegrini. I'm not Pellegrini's agent. Are you Klopps? ;)

 

[kalouk]

I think we should be a bit cautious.

Bear in mind that Klopp's arrival on the market coincided perfectly with our acute "post-derby, can't-win-the-league, suddenly-behind-Utd, now-worried-about-top-four" crisis of confidence.

Responding to finding oneself in a vulnerable state by deciding the next available person (especially if they are charismatic) as your ideal, the one who will bring salvation, is a well-documented phenomena. And the usual outcomes don't make great reading.

Good post.

 

[Damocles]

You will find that some of us named Klopp as the perfect manager for us years ago.

This isn't desperation, outside of youth policy I'm perfectly happy with Pellers.

Its that we have a BMW and we have the chance of a Ferrari.

Klopp is a level above almost every manager out there AND he perfectly fits the goals of the club. His calibre don't come on the market very often and when they do it is mismanagement not to go for them.

If Messi comes on the market tomorrow you can guarantee that we are in for him aswell, and for much of the same reasons

 

[pogrom92]

What concerns me about Klopp is that in Dortmund he worked with nearly a youth team. Young players with little leverage and needing to prove themselves.
Can he motivate our seasoned players, our stars in particular?
I doubt it.

 

[Sergi0 Na5r1]

What concerns me about Klopp is that in Dortmund he worked with nearly a youth team. Young players with little leverage and needing to prove themselves.
Can he motivate our seasoned players, our stars in particular?
I doubt it.

He'll have to bring in some youth and we also have to buy younger (20-24 year old) players this summer for the players that are likely to leave. Aside from that I think Aguero is motivated himself, I think Bony will be fine, and Silva and Kompany.

He might get Nasri working harder. Not sure about Zaba, Dinho, Nando, EM, Navas and others but don't see why he can't. Not a bad idea.