Disgraceful Journalism again by MUEN

[gordondaviesmoustache]

what do you think about the relative reporting on the two clubs in the national press? Clearly I am asking that question because I have formed a pretty robust view myself, but I would be interested what your views were.

It seems to me that united, for reasons of their national preeminence, and City because of their arriviste status are treated very differently, to the point of parody, at times.

Don't really want to get into this whole debate too much, as it is a can of worms.
But I work pretty closely with the national boys who cover the Manchester beat, and they are just looking for the best stories - if they get a good story, it doesn't matter which club it relates to, it gets published.
Fergie has perhaps cast a long shadow, but now he has gone, some of United's chickens might come home to roost. It will be an interesting season.
As someone who has no Premier League allegiance, I look at the issue with balance, and there has no doubt been a reaction to City's nouveaux riche status, just as there was to Chelsea, but it has been dying down.
United have had more good press than anyone simply because they have been the best club, in football terms, for the past 20 years

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

I think in a roundabout way you seem to agree with me ;-)

I do agree that things have (marginally) improved in terms of the reporting on City and that in relative terms to united they should continue to do. Ferguson did indeed cast a long, and some might say dark shadow over proceedings, via a powerful cocktail of fear and respect.

It remains to be seen if Moyes gets a relatively easy ride, especially if results aren't too kind. As you say it's going to be in interesting season both on and off the pitch. Shame it's two months away. Not quite sure how I'm going to keep my sanity!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Going back to the point, should the rather wonderful situation arise where united struggle under moyse, you can bet your bottom dollar the press will be full to bursting with stories and about it, true and false. Not the MEN, but they didn't run stories about Mancini until his departure was inevitable either. That's how the locals work, they have to court the favour of their clubs. But the nationals would love that story because it will sell papers.

 

[kass_best]

Ah diddums a numpty and he gets all hurt !! Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
fucking read the thread soft boy.We are making comparisons against the article on England players within the squad,no fucker else.
Unsufficient ?? WTF !!
We are discussing starts not substitutions,thats the whole point of the debate.These players will not get as much minutes playing time as they have done in the past.Whats so difficult to understand about that ??

For a frail old man, you don't half throw the insults about Oakie. :)

Cant believe that we have so many people SWP who become upset because I used the word "numpty".Sensative souls mate and I assume some have lead very sheltered lives,unlike you and me !! ;)

-- Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:55 pm --

Ah diddums a numpty and he gets all hurt !! Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
fucking read the thread soft boy.We are making comparisons against the article on England players within the squad,no fucker else.
Unsufficient ?? WTF !!
We are discussing starts not substitutions,thats the whole point of the debate.These players will not get as much minutes playing time as they have done in the past.Whats so difficult to understand about that ??

After reading your response, sure, I´m the one thats got hurt.

Actually, its mostly you who tried to do an comparision, most people just complain about the articles.

So now it sounds like its a comparision between english players within the squad. Well no that arent the case.

Less playing time than recent years? Well your post didnt include statistics from another season.

So why would anyone take your post seriously when you arent able to use the simpliest logic, that to compare something, you need something to compare with.

Btw, your numbers for Milner is slightly wrong.

Wait, you say we talking starts, then you go on about "minutes playing time".
Oh, but then your magical logic excludes substitutions? Right, benchwarmer was it not? And if the benchwarmer plays, that doesnt count...

You are very consistent. Make up your mind next time before you post.
___________________________________________________________

We are discussing those English Players who will be under pressure from starting games.That is what the original author was discussing and something you appear to be completely ignoring.
You could make a fucking glass eye fall asleep.

Actually. The reason I responded to your post in the first place was that it was the only one that tried to discuss the subject and did add some value to the thread. But you got butthurt and started rambling... which was all fun.

edit:
And yes, well when the squad is complete and the season begin, then we can speculate for real. My guess is that combined level of games the english players will add will be similiar to this season thanks to Rodwell and Richards.

 

[oakiecokie]

For a frail old man, you don't half throw the insults about Oakie. :)

Cant believe that we have so many people SWP who become upset because I used the word "numpty".Sensative souls mate and I assume some have lead very sheltered lives,unlike you and me !! ;)

-- Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:55 pm --

After reading your response, sure, I´m the one thats got hurt.

Actually, its mostly you who tried to do an comparision, most people just complain about the articles.

So now it sounds like its a comparision between english players within the squad. Well no that arent the case.

Less playing time than recent years? Well your post didnt include statistics from another season.

So why would anyone take your post seriously when you arent able to use the simpliest logic, that to compare something, you need something to compare with.

Btw, your numbers for Milner is slightly wrong.

Wait, you say we talking starts, then you go on about "minutes playing time".
Oh, but then your magical logic excludes substitutions? Right, benchwarmer was it not? And if the benchwarmer plays, that doesnt count...

You are very consistent. Make up your mind next time before you post.
___________________________________________________________

We are discussing those English Players who will be under pressure from starting games.That is what the original author was discussing and something you appear to be completely ignoring.
You could make a fucking glass eye fall asleep.

Actually. The reason I responded to your post in the first place was that it was the only one that tried to discuss the subject and add some value to the thread. But then you got butthurt and started rambling... which was all fun.

Well thank you young man.Ramblings become a natural occurence at my fooking age I`ll have you know. ;)

 

[SWP's back]

Come off it Stuart. This article is a prime example of a thread that you were taken to task with on the mancityfans.net forum a few months ago and you categorically denied that this kind of behaviour occurred. This is one of many many instances over the years where negative inferences are written about City by the MUEN and that is why we have called it the MUEN for donkeys years.

Fair play for you asking the hack to take it off the site. Maybe he/she should publish an apology but I certainly will not be holding my breath in anticipation. That paper has always been rag biased and always will be. It's parent company are very rag orientated so what else can we expect...............

You see agenda and intent when, in truth, there was just somebody under pressure, trying to get a high quota of stories up on the website, and making a mistake.
United fans flag up what they perceive as instances of anti-United bias - can you tell me why that should be?
Some Blues will persist in thinking we are anti-City, and some Reds will believe the polar opposite, no matter what we do or say.

I've been waiting around 2 years for someone to say this.

Why? Stuart says it very often on here and he is correct in relation to the MEN.

The national press and media and are a different ball game of course.

 

[Dethred]

I wonder what the odds would be of them posting an apology, correcting this admittedly "poor Mail article" with their own rebuff, or simply changing every "city with "United, and "Pellegrini" with "Moyes".

You know...

Just to be fair and balanced.

This is a classic, "Oh I ran over your dog? Sorry!" "Oh, I just ran over your other dog - Sorry again" "Oh geesh I didn't know you had three dogs I could run over - Please believe us, we're really sorry."

 

[jonmcity]

I wonder how much they could improve their circulation if they weren't known as MUEN?
Not a good policy to ostracize the majority of your potential readership in my opinion. perhaps the editor should be taking note.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I wonder how much they could improve their circulation if they weren't known as MUEN?
Not a good policy to ostracize the majority of your potential readership in my opinion. perhaps the editor should be taking note.

The answer to this 'debate' actually lies within your post.

No editor would be stupid enough to Alienate half his readership with a biased editorial policy.

 

[mancitymick]

I wonder what the odds would be of them posting an apology, correcting this admittedly "poor Mail article" with their own rebuff, or simply changing every "city with "United, and "Pellegrini" with "Moyes".

You know...

Just to be fair and balanced.

This is a classic, "Oh I ran over your dog? Sorry!" "Oh, I just ran over your other dog - Sorry again" "Oh geesh I didn't know you had three dogs I could run over - Please believe us, we're really sorry."

Why put an apology in the MEN? He was commenting and should be commended on it for being honest. It is not the first time SB has been on here

 

[Heart.net]

I wonder what the odds would be of them posting an apology, correcting this admittedly "poor Mail article" with their own rebuff, or simply changing every "city with "United, and "Pellegrini" with "Moyes".

You know...

Just to be fair and balanced.

This is a classic, "Oh I ran over your dog? Sorry!" "Oh, I just ran over your other dog - Sorry again" "Oh geesh I didn't know you had three dogs I could run over - Please believe us, we're really sorry."

Why put an apology in the MEN? He was commenting and should be commended on it for being honest. It is not the first time SB has been on here

Because it would mean taking responsibility. If they can post something unprofessional like that in the newspaper, they can sure as hell post an apology to go with it. A simple apology on a forum where a lot of match day blues don't read or venture upon doesn't count for much.