Diversity complaints

[bert38]

You clearly wasn't paying attention when you did watch it then, zero references to UK police in there.

its time for the ignore button me thinks.

Then it had no place on a prime time light entertainment show in the UK.

 

[Phil1]

Because its strange in 25 years on the frontline I have never witnessed anything approaching excessive violence or racism from colleagues -and yet I have met numerous racist and violent individuals. Many of my colleagues have been seriously assaulted. One of my team was shot in the stomach. I have been assaulted several times. Yet I have never assaulted anyone. I'm struggling to see the message.

Because of your job you are rightly taking it personally but like I said, I think this was aimed at the US and not UK.
There may be issues with the police force at home right now but they are night and day compared to other countries and I'd rather ours than pretty much any other in the world.

 

[Cityzen_89]

Obviously this is a very dicey topic so I will do my best as to not offend anyone (good luck with that one!) Lol The main problem that I think many people are having at the moment is BLM is so divided in what it actually wants and believes within itself. They are very picky who they fight for too in terms of black people being killed. On one hand you have a BLM USA that is extremely provocative and causing absolute bedlam over there which has resulted largely in the messege being lost in America. BLM UK came out and said they are not affiliated with the USA BLM or the extreme BLM branches that we have here In the UK and do not hold the same beliefs they do politically or agree about defunding police. BLM UK also stated they do not have a go fund me page so where the hell is the money going to for the other BLM groups because they have never stated? I heard someone saying the other day and it was a very valid point about the civil rights movement in the 1960's and the fact there were lots of black justice groups like the The Black Panthers, Black power and CORE and many others who all fought for black rights. There were many groups fighting for rights but had their own ideals of what they wanted and people knew what each one of the groups represented. BLM seems to have monopolised black rights and black voices and has become the main spokesperson for the black community and the general perception among the public now is that BLM want to defund police and dismantle capitalism so when someone wears that logo and says they support BLM it comes across that they support that goal and it superceeds the real and most important messege here which is to end injustice and racism. BLM needs to say that if you are going to use our logo or slogan then this is what we believe and want from you and if you do not share our values then do not wear our logo imo. Until that happens I think division between BLM and the general public will continue as division exists within BLM. Like I say, I'm all for fighting racism but defunding police and taking down government not so much.

 

[grunge]

Obviously this is a very dicey topic so I will do my best as to not offend anyone (good luck with that one!) Lol The main problem that I think many people are having at the moment is BLM is so divided in what it actually wants and believes within itself. They are very picky who they fight for too in terms of black people being killed. On one hand you have a BLM USA that is extremely provocative and causing absolute bedlam over there which has resulted largely in the messege being lost in America. BLM UK came out and said they are not affiliated with the USA BLM or the extreme BLM branches that we have here In the UK and do not hold the same beliefs they do politically or agree about defunding police. BLM UK also stated they do not have a go fund me page so where the hell is the money going to for the other BLM groups because they have never stated? I heard someone saying the other day and it was a very valid point about the civil rights movement in the 1960's and the fact there were lots of black justice groups like the The Black Panthers, Black power and CORE and many others who all fought for black rights. There were many groups fighting for rights but had their own ideals of what they wanted and people knew what each one of the groups represented. BLM seems to have monopolised black rights and black voices and has become the main spokesperson for the black community and the general perception among the public now is that BLM want to defund police and dismantle capitalism so when someone wears that logo and says they support BLM it comes across that they support that goal and it superceeds the real and most important messege here which is to end injustice and racism. BLM needs to say that if you are going to use our logo or slogan then this is what we believe and want from you and if you do not share our values then do not wear our logo imo. Until that happens I think division between BLM and the general public will continue as division exists within BLM. Like I say, I'm all for fighting racism but defunding police and taking down government not so much.

yeah thats pretty much what i was saying earlier. the BLM Movement and the BLM organisations are not linked but the latter is taking advantage of the Movement to promote there extreme views which tarnish the movement.

 

[purplenose]

I think the problem is many people are sick and tired of having BLM and racism pushed in their faces day and night.

People have simply had enough of it, you cannot watch sport or TV without some message being force fed to you.

I honestly think its actually making people racist or at least less prone to mix and integrate. Added too which many feel with some justification BLM are a radical and racist organisation themselves. Equally there are many such as myself who resent them going out on the streets mid pandemic put all and sundry at risk.

As for football I do think there is just a bit much of this "spreading awareness" via the game. Let people watch a game at the ground or on TV without something being force fed. Before anyone pipes up I myself am in a group of people whom football has been used to highlight. Also I am not saying not in the right measures....but at the moment its overkill and counter productive in my opinion.

 

[Cityzen_89]

yeah thats pretty much what i was saying earlier. the BLM Movement and the BLM organisations are not linked but the latter is taking advantage of the Movement to promote there extreme views which tarnish the movement.

I agree with your hijacking point mate. Things like reperations, calling people white privilaged and calling anyone who doesn't agree with your standpoint a racist or enabler of racism doesn't help the cause. Especially when you want support.

 

[bluwes]

Ignore all the evidence? Oh, ok. I have witnessed enough in my time. Please tell me this evidence?

Ignore him, he's never seen an angry man, never mind had to fight one

 

[talkativesprout]

I was lacing up my bover boots this morning when I saw this dance, I had a moment and thought, WTF am I doing, I found a new found love for my fellow man and appreciation of black culture, I immediately got a weave glued on to my shaven bonce, donned a red gold woven smock and pulled on my leather flip flops(Thanks Ayia Napa 1990), I had the night before watched Trading Places so of course I found a stick and glued some hair to the tip. I hadn't got 5 paces down the highstreet when i got attacked by some scruffy white Herbert with dreadlocks claiming I was oppressing her/him/them by cultural appropriation.

Tomorrow I 'm gonna buy a boiler suit and see if those feminists are better equipped and welcoming of unformed snowflakes.

:)

 

[Blue Til Death]

People don’t complain about shit that matters these days, that’s why the country is in such a shit state when it comes to offending idiots with way too much time on their hands .... !
BFC.... !

 

[blueish swede]

I think the problem is many people are sick and tired of having BLM and racism pushed in their faces day and night.

People have simply had enough of it, you cannot watch sport or TV without some message being force fed to you.

I honestly think its actually making people racist or at least less prone to mix and integrate. Added too which many feel with some justification BLM are a radical and racist organisation themselves. Equally there are many such as myself who resent them going out on the streets mid pandemic put all and sundry at risk.

As for football I do think there is just a bit much of this "spreading awareness" via the game. Let people watch a game at the ground or on TV without something being force fed. Before anyone pipes up I myself am in a group of people whom football has been used to highlight. Also I am not saying not in the right measures....but at the moment its overkill and counter productive in my opinion.

I think a lot of black people are sick and tired of having racism pushed in their faces day and night, for sure.