Do you support the RMT?

Stephen230 said:
I know quite a few guys who work on the railways and even they don’t understand the thinking behind these ridiculously cheap tickets.

I know they’ve done away with selling cheap tickets at the stations. Which is probably against discriminatory laws but at least you can understand the reasoning behind it. Every fucker will be driven away from the station’s ticket point and they’ll use that as justification to shut them all, like they have on London Underground.

But they can’t be making money on £2 tickets, so why they think that is a good business move I wouldn’t know.
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Because it's a loss leader, and they can withdraw them once all the ticket offices have closed?
 
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LNER booking office staff have been notified "unofficially" they are being displaced.


Seems the Tories don't want to talk anymore. Just do what they feel like.

The cover of Thames Water going under will bury the story.

The RMT AGM is currently taking place. I expect Mick will make a statement to the media and members from there in the next 48 hours.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Great program by Ben Elton on Ch4 last night about how much it’s costing the tax payer to run the railways, get it back into our hands and fuck these private companies off it’s a joke.
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Watched it on catch up this morning. For someone who worked in the industry from just before privatisation up to 2 years ago, it articulated very well what I'd observed over that time. However, it was still quite horrifying to watch Ben's realisation of what we already knew. "Managed decline" was the phrase that stuck with me.
 
Don't see the problem with closing ticket offices to be honest. Tickets can be bought online or at the machines in the station. Plenty of stations already don't have a ticket office and seem to function without problem.

I haven't been in a ticket office for years though, so maybe I'm missing something.
 
LNER plan to close all their booking offices by the end of summer. Passengers will be expected to buy tickets online or through their app.

They are breaking collective bargaining agreements. As they are run by the Government they don't seem to give a fuck.

More strike dates coming and possible legal challenges about abrogation of collective bargaining.

RMT AGM just been notified.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Don't see the problem with closing ticket offices to be honest. Tickets can be bought online or at the machines in the station. Plenty of stations already don't have a ticket office and seem to function without problem.

I haven't been in a ticket office for years though, so maybe I'm missing something.
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Your missing the facts.

1)unmanned stations are inherently more dangerous. An app on your phone for tickets is fuck all use if you are being mugged.
2)Not everyone is proficient in using technology especially the older people. If they close the ticket offices my mother for one will have to stop using the railways.

there are loads more but will start with those two
 
pirate said:
Your missing the facts.

1)unmanned stations are inherently more dangerous. An app on your phone for tickets is fuck all use if you are being mugged.
2)Not everyone is proficient in using technology especially the older people. If they close the ticket offices my mother for one will have to stop using the railways.

there are loads more but will start with those two
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This is my biggest concern, they IMHO need to be manned.
 
pirate said:
Your missing the facts.

1)unmanned stations are inherently more dangerous. An app on your phone for tickets is fuck all use if you are being mugged.
2)Not everyone is proficient in using technology especially the older people. If they close the ticket offices my mother for one will have to stop using the railways.

there are loads more but will start with those two
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Not sure people sitting in a ticket office are going to do much about a mugging but perhaps I'm wrong.

Most unmanned stations that I know have ticket machines which are fairly straightforward and my 85-year old mother has no problems with them. I do appreciate that it might be more difficult for them though if they aren't used to technology or they don't have someone to show them the ropes.

There are certainly plenty of stations around here that don't have ticket offices. They seem to manage ok. It's the way the world is going. Same with banks closing and having to use ATMs/apps etc.
 
pirate said:
Your missing the facts.

1)unmanned stations are inherently more dangerous. An app on your phone for tickets is fuck all use if you are being mugged.
2)Not everyone is proficient in using technology especially the older people. If they close the ticket offices my mother for one will have to stop using the railways.

there are loads more but will start with those two
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What about getting on the train without a ticket then and pay when the conductor comes or paying when you get off at your destination if there is someone there to take your payment? If there’s no one around it’s a free trip, bonus.
 
Blue Maverick said:
What about getting on the train without a ticket then and pay when the conductor comes or paying when you get off at your destination if there is someone there to take your payment? If there’s no one around it’s a free trip, bonus.
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they want rid of the conductors as well
 
pirate said:
Your missing the facts.

1)unmanned stations are inherently more dangerous. An app on your phone for tickets is fuck all use if you are being mugged.
2)Not everyone is proficient in using technology especially the older people. If they close the ticket offices my mother for one will have to stop using the railways.

there are loads more but will start with those two
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will his app mean there is a ramp there waiting for him if there is a big stepdown between the train and the platform?
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
Not sure people sitting in a ticket office are going to do much about a mugging but perhaps I'm wrong.

Most unmanned stations that I know have ticket machines which are fairly straightforward and my 85-year old mother has no problems with them. I do appreciate that it might be more difficult for them though if they aren't used to technology or they don't have someone to show them the ropes.

There are certainly plenty of stations around here that don't have ticket offices. They seem to manage ok. It's the way the world is going. Same with banks closing and having to use ATMs/apps etc.
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Less muggings when there are people around.

as for the rest, it may be the way its going in the uk, but the countries where they have good railway systems its not. Look at japan for example, reagrded as the most reliable and efficient system in the world.

its only happening in the UK because we are allowing corporate greed to take priority over public service.
 
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