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No he's wrong as explained earlier
Which is wrong.

You misrepresented what he actually said to argue a straw man.

Party politics has fuck all to do with Trump which is why so many traditional right wing Republican sympathisers detest him on here.
 
David Pecker - The man with the comedy name.

I didn't realise just how important this guy was in the lead up to the election in 2016. He is a long time friend of Trump and owns the company that publishes that well know credible news source which is littered with quality journalism - The National Enquirer.

If you look back at the NE covers in the months leading up to the election, there are simply loads of scandalous headlines against Hilary. Bear in mind that this publication is heavily prominent at the checkouts of places like Walmart, so it's easy to see how this could have influenced a lot of people into how they voted.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/tabloid-newspapers-trump-media-propaganda-214627 (about half way down)

Also, the NE paid Karen McDougal a large sum of money to Kill a story that Trump had an affair with her. That money appears to have been reimbursed by Trump, and the transaction is currently under scrutiny for campaign violation irregularities.

Well - Now this guy suddenly got immunity from prosecution in the Special Councel investigation. Very interesting.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/23/politics/david-pecker-immunity-cohen/index.html

Pecker is in deep!!!!!!

This is a big development as not only does he know what was going on but he has the paper trail to back it up. We currently know of one further finance violation but I suspect there is a whole lot more that will come out of this.
 
This is a big development as not only does he know what was going on but he has the paper trail to back it up. We currently know of one further finance violation but I suspect there is a whole lot more that will come out of this.
I’m just wondering if the term “a smear campaign” is accurate when the accused is actually guilty?

Was there a smear campaign to convict Gary Glitter or Jeffrey Archer or were they just guilty?
 
I’m just wondering if the term “a smear campaign” is accurate when the accused is actually guilty?

Was there a smear campaign to convict Gary Glitter or Jeffrey Archer or were they just guilty?
I think with Glitter and Archer, there was a lot of sensationalist headlines, but in essence the stories were fairly accurate.

With Trump, the headlines are not so sensationalist, but shockingly true. Although, the more than comes to light the less I am shocked.
 
Which is wrong.

You misrepresented what he actually said to argue a straw man.

Party politics has fuck all to do with Trump which is why so many traditional right wing Republican sympathisers detest him on here.

No, you just didn't see the connection or more likely you've lost objectivity on this and are no better than the screeing reactionaries that we used to mock on here. This is a gang bollocking, a baying mob.

And don't kid yourself, this is all party lines. Name me the last Republican President or even major figure who didn't have a substantial hate campaign against them. Every candidate or President they've had since the rise of social media and the integration of it within to traditional media is painted not just as having bad ideas but also being corrupt, racist, simultaneously appealing only to dumb rednecks or rich people somehow, and basically are immoral or idiotic people.

We've not quite moved into that territory yet over here but we're not far away.

Kayne went on live TV and said that George Bush doesn't care about black people. The Beautiful Mind like connections that people drew between him and bin Laden or various corporate interests to suggest he was feathering his own nest. They said he was an idiot thicko who was controlled by Rumsfeld. Yet somehow also a mastermind who invaded Iraq for revenge.

Romney, Palin, Ryan, McCain, Carson, even Ted Cruz who seems to be the human equivalent of Kermit the Frog had to run that gauntlet. It's how the American Left fights their elections and the media cycles into it. This is no different, it's just a lot louder than last time as social media has taken off since Bush. Make no mistake that if Pence takes over he'll go through the same thing as will anybody else.

This obviously negates the whole thing that the President is nowhere near as powerful as people seem to believe. He's not exactly the Queen but the idea that Trump rules with some iron fist and the Party just are along for the ride is demonstrably false. Trump can't do anything outside the odd executive decision without the Party.
 
No, you just didn't see the connection or more likely you've lost objectivity on this and are no better than the screeing reactionaries that we used to mock on here. This is a gang bollocking, a baying mob.

And don't kid yourself, this is all party lines. Name me the last Republican President or even major figure who didn't have a substantial hate campaign against them. Every candidate or President they've had since the rise of social media and the integration of it within to traditional media is painted not just as having bad ideas but also being corrupt, racist, simultaneously appealing only to dumb rednecks or rich people somehow, and basically are immoral or idiotic people.

We've not quite moved into that territory yet over here but we're not far away.

Kayne went on live TV and said that George Bush doesn't care about black people. The Beautiful Mind like connections that people drew between him and bin Laden or various corporate interests to suggest he was feathering his own nest. They said he was an idiot thicko who was controlled by Rumsfeld. Yet somehow also a mastermind who invaded Iraq for revenge.

Romney, Palin, Ryan, McCain, Carson, even Ted Cruz who seems to be the human equivalent of Kermit the Frog had to run that gauntlet. It's how the American Left fights their elections and the media cycles into it. This is no different, it's just a lot louder than last time as social media has taken off since Bush. Make no mistake that if Pence takes over he'll go through the same thing as will anybody else.

This obviously negates the whole thing that the President is nowhere near as powerful as people seem to believe. He's not exactly the Queen but the idea that Trump rules with some iron fist and the Party just are along for the ride is demonstrably false. Trump can't do anything outside the odd executive decision without the Party.

Face it. Trump getting elected had pretty much f**k all to do with Republican politics. It was a popularity contest where Trump and Co basically did what they had to in order to get elected (which is the standard model when it comes to many politicians) so that they could use the platform to further their business interests. Greed - Pure and Simple; absolutely nothing to do with patriotism and serving their country.

Once elected, Trump has basically gone out of his way to help out the US elites who funded his campaign, and many of his mates. In terms of the Russia connection, I get the feeling that this started out as Trump wanting to extend his business interests in Russia and Russia using this as leverage to gain influence in US politics.
 
No he's wrong as explained earlier, and I literally cannot recall a single interaction we've ever had on the forum nor could guess what you believe about any issue.

That's because we have had this issue through PM messages which I am not going to start raking up the past and airing dirty linen.

Furthermore I have no desire to illustrate the original point made I believe SWP has done that so eloquently.
 
I have seen this women before over here wasn't she the alternative truths women?

Yes she was in addition to making reference to a massacre at 'bowling green' that never happened! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Green_massacre

She originally backed Cruz in the 16 election and flipped to trump when he dropped out.

She is married to a high profile Washington lawyer who has been openly critical of Trump.

Great people.
 
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