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I don't think Iran matters, nor Israel especially, to his base. The gun control thing is about 24 hours old. The wall and the swamp maybe, but there are convenient targets for blame there.

The economy is strong, even as he's simply kicked the can down the road fiscally and jawboned the Fed to cut rates in a full employment environment. He's made progress on deregulation. He got tax reform done. North Korea is our "friend", China our enemy (which one stole American jobs)? One would think farmers would be furious losing an export market -- latest poll I saw shows 78% still support him. Consumer confidence split between red and blue is still enormous, but blue confidence has gone up more than red has gone down since the election.

I don't think he's alienated his base much personally; maybe on a few issues, but on the pocketbook issues he's been fine to this point save the tariffs and for now he's still got them convinced the pain is worth it. If anything they've formed a protective shield around him.

I agree he's lost the centrists though, which is why the Democrats need to run a centrist IMO. I think it will be too easy to galvanize his supporters and paint Sanders as a Socialist which could depress blue turnout. I agree I think Harris gives him problems. I think Biden does too, potentially, but that could go either way. Biden needs to stay above the fray and innocuous and safe and I'm not sure he will because he's older, dimmer and prone to the gaffe.

Still hoping for a late charge from Steve Bullock!

I think you underestimate the anti-Semitism in Trump's base. The cuddling up to Israel has created a ton of drama, furrowed brows and strange justifications. Many of the Drain The Swamp crowd (as I have repeatedly warned for years) jumped very easily from rich white elites to Jewish elites. You only need to spend a few minutes in his echo chambers to see it.

A significant portion of them now believe has in Israel's pocket therefore is a puppet of the Deep State.
 
I think you underestimate the anti-Semitism in Trump's base. The cuddling up to Israel has created a ton of drama, furrowed brows and strange justifications. Many of the Drain The Swamp crowd (as I have repeatedly warned for years) jumped very easily from rich white elites to Jewish elites. You only need to spend a few minutes in his echo chambers to see it.

A significant portion of them now believe has in Israel's pocket therefore is a puppet of the Deep State.

Maybe. But I suspect the most pernicious among his base hate "Arabs" just as much. "Jews" may be a subversive threat, but I am guessing his base sees "Arabs" as an overt threat.
 
Maybe. But I suspect the most pernicious among his base hate "Arabs" just as much. "Jews" may be a subversive threat, but I am guessing his base sees "Arabs" as an overt threat.

Its much more anti Jew than anti Arab. Its anti Muslim definitely but they look at Muslims as savages whereas Jews literally control the world in their eyes and are to blame for pretty much anything you can think of.

None of the Trump supporter terror attacks have targeted mosques, they tend to go after synagogues, schools, places they see as under the spell of Jewish propaganda, etc.
 
Its much more anti Jew than anti Arab. Its anti Muslim definitely but they look at Muslims as savages whereas Jews literally control the world in their eyes and are to blame for pretty much anything you can think of.

None of the Trump supporter terror attacks have targeted mosques, they tend to go after synagogues, schools, places they see as under the spell of Jewish propaganda, etc.

Not YET . . . and Proud Boys did in upstate New York.

Honestly, does degree matter much though? I said "most pernicious" hate "just as much" and I'd guess that's right and probably goes for any other non-white race too. I don't really want to argue about how Trump's base hates Jews "more" than Arabs. It doesn't matter; hating either or both is fucking horrible.

Anyhow, I still think his core is right with him because they're in a cult of personality, and I doubt they waver and wither for love or money unless someone else stands up, points out Trump is breaking his promises as you describe and takes up the banner of opposing him. Maybe Steven Miller will. Til then Trump might as well be Jim Jones to his base.
 
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The dumb **** forgets that HE was a mate of the kiddie fiddler at the same time as the Clintons - he once again proves himself to be a vile human being

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...on-body-count-retweet-killed-death-by-suicide

I think there's a difference between saying "this Trump guy knew someone who turned out to be a pedo" and "this Clinton person has been directly accused in court of raping them on Epstein's Island and flight logs showed he visited the compound over 20 times".

You lot are so very desperately trying to tie this to Trump that it's ridiculous
 
I think there's a difference between saying "this Trump guy knew someone who turned out to be a pedo" and "this Clinton person has been directly accused in court of raping them on Epstein's Island and flight logs showed he visited the compound over 20 times".

You lot are so very desperately trying to tie this to Trump that it's ridiculous
I just wonder why Epstein had 14 different contact numbers numbers connected to Trump (Trump and Trump Org personnel) in his 'little black book'?
 
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