Donald Trump

[kaz7]

Why has he taken his mask down , trump will jump on that as proof the Chyna virus is fake news , rookie mistake joe

 

[BlueHammer85]

Bring on electronic voting from the comfort of your own home. Every vote counted. No voter intimidation at polling stations. No combating bad weather or traffic. Results available the second that the polls close.

seems crazy this isn’t the case nowadays.

 

[Rascal]

I look at American politics and think two cheeks of the same backside, then I look at UK politics and think two cheeks of the same backside.

We are in the era of arse politics. If I was a Yank I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates and in the UK I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates.

In America its about money from wealthy donors, in the UK its now about money from wealthy donors.

Money cant buy you love, but it can buy you power and influence, so it begs the question is Capitalism destroying Democracy.

Karl Marx wrote "Accumulation of wealth at one pole is at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil, slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation ,at the opposite pole"

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions and i fear it will take down democracy with it.

The arse end era of democracy.

 

[west didsblue]

I look at American politics and think two cheeks of the same backside, then I look at UK politics and think two cheeks of the same backside.

We are in the era of arse politics. If I was a Yank I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates and in the UK I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates.

In America its about money from wealthy donors, in the UK its now about money from wealthy donors.

Money cant buy you love, but it can buy you power and influence, so it begs the question is Capitalism destroying Democracy.

Karl Marx wrote "Accumulation of wealth at one pole is at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil, slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation ,at the opposite pole"

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions and i fear it will take down democracy with it.

The arse end era of democracy.

There’s something wrong with you if you think Trump and Biden are two cheeks of the same arse. Biden may not be perfect but he’s not a narcissistic sex offending wannabe dictator. If you can’t see the difference between the two you haven’t looked very hard.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Timely reminder that Trump is a raging drug addict.

 

[Rascal]

There’s something wrong with you if you think Trump and Biden are two cheeks of the same arse. Biden may not be perfect but he’s not a narcissistic sex offending wannabe dictator. If you can’t see the difference between the two you haven’t looked very hard.

That is not very nice saying there is something wrong with me. I feel quite hurt.

What you have done though is reinforce my point. It is an election on personality because Capitalism is destroying democratic discourse.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

That is not very nice saying there is something wrong with me. I feel quite hurt.

What you have done though is reinforce my point. It is an election on personality because Capitalism is destroying democratic discourse.

Aside from the incumbent being a Republican, this election has nothing to do with capitalism. It's about restoring faith in democracy.

 

[west didsblue]

Aside from the incumbent being a Republican, this election has nothing to do with capitalism. It's about restoring faith in democracy.

It’s not even that.
It is:
Totalitarianism vs Freedom.
Lies vs Truth.
Hatred vs Healing.
Division vs Unity.

Real democracy can come after they’ve got rid of the cult leader and his enablers. Their electoral system is anything but democratic.
The capitalism vs socialism arguments can come later.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I look at American politics and think two cheeks of the same backside, then I look at UK politics and think two cheeks of the same backside.

We are in the era of arse politics. If I was a Yank I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates and in the UK I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates.

In America its about money from wealthy donors, in the UK its now about money from wealthy donors.

Money cant buy you love, but it can buy you power and influence, so it begs the question is Capitalism destroying Democracy.

Karl Marx wrote "Accumulation of wealth at one pole is at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil, slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation ,at the opposite pole"

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions and i fear it will take down democracy with it.

The arse end era of democracy.

What’s so ironic about citizenship stances like this is how they mirror the stances of rich kids who inherit so much wealth they never need to work — the true bane of the capitalism you decry. They don’t have to make any hard decisions, they can afford to sit back and let the world pass them by while they turn their nose up at everything and anything because it doesn’t suit them, boo hoo. In the real world where the rest of us live, we have to make difficult choices among unpalatable options every day, and feel lucky when the choice is very clear because it makes our job as citizens easier. The key words in your screed are that you “can’t be arsed.” We know, we know. A slovenly, lazy approach to citizenship is part and parcel of everyone in the “they all suck” crowd, whether aggressively socialist, or Libertarian. “The parties don’t represent me” or “politicians don’t have my interest at heart” — yeah, that’s right — they don’t represent me either. It isn’t about you or me. It’s about representing ALL of us, not just you. Even failing that, surely one is closer to representing you than another — in nearly every election. Determining that sometimes takes, you know, effort.

Also, liars irritate me. Actually — that’s not fair. You probably aren’t lying — you just haven’t looked especially hard at yourself. I’m guessing you don’t “fear” capitalism taking down democracy — you want capitalism to continue to provide you with sustenance while you live in a free, Democratic society that allows you to whine and moan about “the system.” You don’t fear it, you actually LOVE it.

Now if you were to show up here today depressed and angered because Bernie Sanders didn’t get the nomination but you’re throwing in with Biden because you recognize Trump is by far and away the greater danger to the people and governmental constructs of the Western world, I’d have no quibble. If you can’t see that this election is about politics second and personality first, then yes — there’s something wrong. To fix it, start doing some homework like the rest of us.

By the way, capitalism isn’t destroying discourse — technology is, and destroying is the wrong word, unless you’re talking about the quality control governor evil capitalist editors at media outlets used to provide before the democratization of the bully pulpit which allowed radical fringe voices and liars to attain vast, free audiences with instant distribution and nearly unlimited reach. That governor HAS been destroyed — or was never created, or retroactively applied lamely (cf. your thoughtful comments in that otherwise wholly chickenshit media censorship thread).

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I look at American politics and think two cheeks of the same backside, then I look at UK politics and think two cheeks of the same backside.

We are in the era of arse politics. If I was a Yank I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates and in the UK I wouldn't be arsed voting for either of the candidates.

In America its about money from wealthy donors, in the UK its now about money from wealthy donors.

Money cant buy you love, but it can buy you power and influence, so it begs the question is Capitalism destroying Democracy.

Karl Marx wrote "Accumulation of wealth at one pole is at the same time accumulation of misery, agony of toil, slavery, ignorance, brutality, mental degradation ,at the opposite pole"

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions and i fear it will take down democracy with it.

The arse end era of democracy.

I'm disappointed you didn't mention neoliberal at least once ;)