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If Joe Biden wins American high school kids will be taught that
global warming is real
the Confederacy fought to keep slavery
Thailand is pronounced "tie-land"
grabbing a woman by the pussy is not locker-room banter
the real meaning of "you're fired."
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
What’s so ironic about citizenship stances like this is how they mirror the stances of rich kids who inherit so much wealth they never need to work — the true bane of the capitalism you decry. They don’t have to make any hard decisions, they can afford to sit back and let the world pass them by while they turn their nose up at everything and anything because it doesn’t suit them, boo hoo. In the real world where the rest of us live, we have to make difficult choices among unpalatable options every day, and feel lucky when the choice is very clear because it makes our job as citizens easier. The key words in your screed are that you “can’t be arsed.” We know, we know. A slovenly, lazy approach to citizenship is part and parcel of everyone in the “they all suck” crowd, whether aggressively socialist, or Libertarian. “The parties don’t represent me” or “politicians don’t have my interest at heart” — yeah, that’s right — they don’t represent me either. It isn’t about you or me. It’s about representing ALL of us, not just you. Even failing that, surely one is closer to representing you than another — in nearly every election. Determining that sometimes takes, you know, effort.

Also, liars irritate me. Actually — that’s not fair. You probably aren’t lying — you just haven’t looked especially hard at yourself. I’m guessing you don’t “fear” capitalism taking down democracy — you want capitalism to continue to provide you with sustenance while you live in a free, Democratic society that allows you to whine and moan about “the system.” You don’t fear it, you actually LOVE it.

Now if you were to show up here today depressed and angered because Bernie Sanders didn’t get the nomination but you’re throwing in with Biden because you recognize Trump is by far and away the greater danger to the people and governmental constructs of the Western world, I’d have no quibble. If you can’t see that this election is about politics second and personality first, then yes — there’s something wrong. To fix it, start doing some homework like the rest of us.

By the way, capitalism isn’t destroying discourse — technology is, and destroying is the wrong word, unless you’re talking about the quality control governor evil capitalist editors at media outlets used to provide before the democratization of the bully pulpit which allowed radical fringe voices and liars to attain vast, free audiences with instant distribution and nearly unlimited reach. That governor HAS been destroyed — or was never created, or retroactively applied lamely (cf. your thoughtful comments in that otherwise wholly chickenshit media censorship thread).
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I despise Capitalism and rich I am not, I am a poor kid from Salford. I am not angered Sanders didn't get nominated, why would I be, he is a capitalist and I am an anti-capitalist.

We are approaching the arse end of capitalism, it is a system wracked with inequalities, it is a system that is used to buy influence, power and enhance wealth. It transfers wealth from the poor to the rich, because the rich control the levers of democracy through the power of the capitalist system. Democracy becomes a discourse about capitalism, elections are dominated by who is fiscally responsible and who has found the magic money trees. The end game though is whoever wins the wealth of your country will continue to be transferred from the poor to the rich. The rich enjoy the fruits of Socialism, the poor manage under the iniquities of capitalism.
 
Rascal said:
I despise Capitalism and rich I am not, I am a poor kid from Salford. I am not angered Sanders didn't get nominated, why would I be, he is a capitalist and I am an anti-capitalist.

We are approaching the arse end of capitalism, it is a system wracked with inequalities, it is a system that is used to buy influence, power and enhance wealth. It transfers wealth from the poor to the rich, because the rich control the levers of democracy through the power of the capitalist system. Democracy becomes a discourse about capitalism, elections are dominated by who is fiscally responsible and who has found the magic money trees. The end game though is whoever wins the wealth of your country will continue to be transferred from the poor to the rich. The rich enjoy the fruits of Socialism, the poor manage under the iniquities of capitalism.
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The enemy of good is perfect (even assuming a perfect world would be a socialist one.)

(BTW, I might be a bit slow, or just tired, but i've read your last line four times and still don't understand the first part of it ...)
 
west didsblue said:
It’s not even that.
It is:
Totalitarianism vs Freedom.
Lies vs Truth.
Hatred vs Healing.
Division vs Unity.

Real democracy can come after they’ve got rid of the cult leader and his enablers. Their electoral system is anything but democratic.
The capitalism vs socialism arguments can come later.
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Absolutely. It was an unusually poor and ill informed post by rascal.
 
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Well, this isn't a little bit batshit.
 
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