Donald Trump

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Well, that makes one thread. :)

Haha! Glad you're paying attention :-)

 

[buckshot]

I've never really thought about Trump's support base being the far right -- plenty of aggressively conservative free market types and religious conservatives can't stand him (but had a hard time voting for Clinton). It's the disenfranchised rural less-educated male white lower-middle class that he has enthralled. It's more economic and geographic than political IMO, though the nation has become far more linked along those three elements admittedly.

I get uncomfortable when "all" Republicans or "the right" get lumped in with Trump (not that you are doing that at all -- you aren't). As long as a generalized connection is made between "the right" and Trump and "the left" and anti-Trump, this nation will not heal politically from this rift. Political discourse has devolved emotionally so dramatically that there is little room for nuance and pragmatism among supporters of either side. It makes my stomach churn.

The next Presidential candidate set, whether Reps, Dems or both candidates (since assuredly a Republican will challenge Trump for the nomination) need to be unifiers, and wildly charismatic, so that swing members of both parties/wings, moderates and independents will be comfortable voting for them regardless of party. Like Reagan or Kennedy (if you see them in the context of today's politics, not those of their times). If Democrats run a skewed "anti-Trump", and (big caveat) Trump makes it to 2020, they will probably lose again.

Any free market types or religious conservatives who didn't vote for Clinton showed their true racist colors. Clinton is a moderate on economics and has been a loyal churchgoer all of her life. When the so-called reasonable republicans can't vote for that and instead vote for a racist, pussy grabbing, wife cheating, fake university starting game show host it's because they never were reasonable. They're racists who hid behind religion and economic policy to justify their positions. Anybody who voted for Hitler because they supported a lower tax rate on capital gains was still voting for a person who was in favor of wiping out a religion. His was Judaism, Dumb Donald wants to kill 1.6 billion Muslims and his base would love it if he did.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Any free market types or religious conservatives who didn't vote for Clinton showed their true racist colors. Clinton is a moderate on economics and has been a loyal churchgoer all of her life. When the so-called reasonable republicans can't vote for that and instead vote for a racist, pussy grabbing, wife cheating, fake university starting game show host it's because they never were reasonable. They're racists who hid behind religion and economic policy to justify their positions. Anybody who voted for Hitler because they supported a lower tax rate on capital gains was still voting for a person who was in favor of wiping out a religion. His was Judaism, Dumb Donald wants to kill 1.6 billion Muslims and his base would love it if he did.

Well, I was implying that it's more a case of them not voting at all, or voting third party. And Clinton didn't turn out a lot of Obama's base either.

 

[buckshot]

Well, I was implying that it's more a case of them not voting at all, or voting third party. And Clinton didn't turn out a lot of Obama's base either.

True, but not voting to stop one of the most disgusting people on the planet from becoming POTUS has its own moral failings.

 

[buckshot]

Viva Mexico!

 

[Bigga]

Viva Mexico!

Best thing I've seen for a looong time!!

No fooker can make me laugh at 10am!!

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I haven't posted in this thread since August.

Prove it....

 

[Magicpole]

Best thing I've seen for a looong time!!

No fooker can make me laugh at 10am!!

Brilliant. Got that horror of a demented scumbag to a tee.

Viva Viva

 

[west didsblue]

After asking if anyone really wants to throw out up to a million "good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military" who unknowingly immigrated illegally as children, he's saying in the same breath he'll do it if he doesn't get funding for his wall.
Does that count as a negotiating tactic or is it pure blackmail?

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

After asking if anyone really wants to throw out up to a million "good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military" who unknowingly immigrated illegally as children, he's saying in the same breath he'll do it if he doesn't get funding for his wall.
Does that count as a negotiating tactic or is it pure blackmail?

It's blackmail in the political sense I don't understand why there can't be a real amnesty now for families and children who are tied completely into the US system.