Donald Trump

[Bigga]

He did. Obamacare.

Oh, I see.

'Obamacare' for the Blacks and poor that were abused or shot by the police?

Well, that's fair enough...

 

[Shaelumstash]

Oh, I see.

'Obamacare' for the Blacks and poor that were abused or shot by the police?

Well, that's fair enough...

Obamacare for all, that’s why it was real change.

 

[Bigga]

Obamacare for all, that’s why it was real change.

Great strawman argument.

 

[SWP's back]

Great strawman argument.

Not sure you’re using that right.

He’s not arguing his own point. You said Obama didn’t use his position for real change. Shala is arguing Obamacare was real change. Where’s the strawman?

 

[Bigga]

Not sure you’re using that right.

He’s not arguing his own point. You said Obama didn’t use his position for real change. Shala is arguing Obamacare was real change. Where’s the strawman?

I had to be specific, when I was talking about real change for the violence and murder of the poor and Blacks by the hands of the police? That was in my response chain, but yeah, way to go with your strawman too.

You both have cited 'Obamacare' against brutality.

Cool.

 

[stonerblue]

Trump is a ****, no arguments from me. But the above statement is why there is such divide in lots of countries nowadays. We no longer hate the people's political thoughts and opinions we just hate the person.

Not all Donald Trump voters are Nazis.
Not all Democrat supporters love Chairman Mao.

It's hard to believe if you are on the extremes of both parties but I bet quite a few normal voters would support either party and wouldn't be anything like the description you have just applied to tens of millions of Americans above.

So why would a 'normal' voter put their x against a racist, woman hating, ignorant, lying megalomaniac that acts like a spoilt child?

 

[SWP's back]

I had to be specific, when I was talking about real change for the violence and murder of the poor and Blacks by the hands of the police? That was in my response chain, but yeah, way to go with your strawman too.

You both have cited 'Obamacare' against brutality.

Cool.

Lol

 

[stonerblue]

Any more cunts wish to use false equivalencies to defend this **** can suck my fucking cock. They’re absolutely as bad as him. Cunts.

Afuckinmen to that.

 

[Bigga]

Lol

Funny, isn't it?

I actually see how stark the differences are between your White neolib version of Obama against my Black progressive view.

How he lined the pockets of your type and denied the right of progression of mine.

Laugh it up, fella.

 

[SWP's back]

Funny, isn't it?

I actually see how stark the differences are between your White neolib version of Obama against my Black progressive view.

How he lined the pockets of your type and denied the right of progression of mine.

Laugh it up, fella.

You're black eh? You should have mentioned it.

 

[Bigga]

You're black eh? You should have mentioned it.

Yes, this is when I know how weak your actual position is on the discussion; deflection.

I've enjoyed how you've shown when you're brittle.

Our 'discussion' is done.

 

[SWP's back]

Yes, this is when I know how weak your actual position is on the discussion; deflection.

I've enjoyed how you've shown when you're brittle.

Our 'discussion' is done.

I’m not in any sort of weak position at all. I’ve nothing to defend about my preference for Obama over Trump on a Trump thread. Glad you’re off though, you’re really boring.

 

[Bigga]

*I’m not in any sort of weak position at all. I’ve nothing to defend about my preference for Obama over Trump on a Trump thread. Glad you’re off though, you’re really boring.

*Notes, still an empty response.

Cool beans, bro.

 

[SWP's back]

*Notes, still an empty response.

Cool beans, bro.

You’ve not actually said anything to reply to.

Bore off.

 

[daztrueblue91]

Funny, isn't it?

I actually see how stark the differences are between your White neolib version of Obama against my Black progressive view.

How he lined the pockets of your type and denied the right of progression of mine.

Laugh it up, fella.

You’re judging Obama to a different standard to other presidents because of his skin colour.

To even imply that Obama is somehow worse than Trump for the issue of race relations is nonsense. Yet on a thread about a president who’s words have emboldened racists and is guilty of the same inaction as his predecessor on improving black lives, you seem to spend a hell of a lot of time criticising the Obama regime.

 

[Bigga]

You’ve not actually said anything to reply to.

Cool story, bro.

 

[Bigga]

You’re judging Obama to a different standard to other presidents because of his skin colour.

To even imply that Obama is somehow worse than Trump for the issue of race relations is nonsense. Yet on a thread about a president who’s words have emboldened racists and is guilty of the same inaction as his predecessor on improving black lives, you seem to spend a hell of a lot of time criticising the Obama regime.

Well, yes, for Black voters you would have to judge Obama by a different standard.

This might be the ONLY time it ever happens. I mean, look at the current choices! No Black candidate, good or bad, made the final 6/ 7? Maybe even 10, I can't remember. That's regressive!

So, when Obama was in power, he had the chance to advance the conversation.

He did not.

I've said it in another thread that at least with #45, you know who the enemy is.

 

[SWP's back]

Cool story, bro.

If you like. What do you want me to argue? That Trump is a better president? That I hate neoliberal policies? No can do on either.

 

[mat]

I don’t think the world can hold out till November - He needs to step down immediately to reduce the tension and escalation

The GOP are going to have to step in.

Trump will do fuck all until it affects him personally.

 

[mat]

You might miss the calm, but the neoliberal policies would remain the same, but in a softer light.

Policies that keep creating conditions in distrust in the system of greed and capitalism and no real policing checks.

Tamir Rice and others were killed under Obama's watch and he did fuck all, but cried a few tears!

He knew what was happening and still did sweet FA about a system that was killing his people.

The powder keg would have exploded under his tenure as well, eventually.

So, yeah, fuck that guy...

Correct me if I’m wrong Biggs. I think Obama allowed a bill to pass allowing states to buy military grade equipment for crowd control?