Donald Trump

[AliBobbyJ]

On what grounds?

Trump's disgusting and I'd not shed a tear if he dropped dead. But welcoming another assassination attempt (which would disgust many) is just plain daft and shows no understanding of U.S. politics. The reaction to his death from a bullet would guarantee the election of whichever Republican candidate took his place and unleash trouble in the streets that would make Jan 6th look like a tea-party.

 

[SWP's back]

It’s not even gonna end up close.

 

[SebastianBlue]

This is what Mike Johnson—who is a constitutional lawyer, and who is the current speaker of the house, a position in which the person swears to protect the constitution of the United States—actually said when pressed on Trump’s “we have a little secret” comments at the American Nazi Party rally in NYC on Sunday (comments in [brackets] are my own):

Outcry over Trump’s hint at ‘little secret’ with House Republicans​

Critics condemn ‘sinister’ remark that suggests potential Trump-Mike Johnson plot to settle contested election

Donald Trump faced mounting suspicion of hatching a plot to steal next week’s presidential election as Democrats and commentators focused on his references to a “little secret” at Sunday night’s tumultuous Madison Square Garden rally. The allusions initially attracted little notice amid the angry backlash provoked by racist jokes and incendiary rhetoric from a succession of warm-up speakers, including an offensive comment about Puerto Ricans that even Trump’s own campaign felt obliged to disavow.

However, some observers and Democratic politicians believed the most telling remark of the night came from the Republican nominee himself after he introduced Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, on stage and alluded to a shared secret.

…

“Speaking of secrets, Harris knew Biden was physically and mentally impaired and kept it a secret,” he [Johnson] wrote, referring to unproven accusations that the White House had covered up an age-related decline in the president’s cognitive abilities.

“They also knew that Russia collusion was a fake [Johnson, of all people, knows that Russian collusion and interference was not “fake”] and kept that secret too. It appears that all those secrets didn’t matter to the media because they all helped Democrats [none of these claims he is making were “secrets”; all of the claims were widely reported and discredited]. But this one might help Donald Trump and now they care [again, they always cared, just as the care now; these are more false claims to muddy the waters]?

“By definition, a secret is not to be shared – and I don’t intend to share this one [Johnson is tacitly admitting that they have a plan to intervene via his constitutional role should Trump lose the election].”

Outcry over Trump’s hint at ‘little secret’ with House Republicans | Donald Trump | The Guardian

Critics condemn ‘sinister’ remark that suggests potential Trump-Mike Johnson plot to settle contested election

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The only thing that will decide this election is the amount of votes cast for each candidate (and the quirks of the electoral college system). This is all getting a bit paranoid now and both sides are making noises to suggest if they don't win the result may be illegitimate. Pretty irresponsible.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

The only thing that will decide this election is the amount of votes cast for each candidate (and the quirks of the electoral college system). This is all getting a bit paranoid now and both sides are making noises to suggest if they don't win the result may be illegitimate. Pretty irresponsible.

One side is making a lot more noise than the other.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

One side is making a lot more noise than the other.

One side also has more form than the other.

 

[SebastianBlue]

One side also has more form than the other.

Indeed.

Any claim that “both sides” are equally threatening to subvert the results of the election if they don’t win is made in bad faith and should be treated with due disdain.

Some of the comments being made in this thread as of late would make Chamberlain proud.

 

[TonyM]

The only thing that will decide this election is the amount of votes cast for each candidate (and the quirks of the electoral college system). This is all getting a bit paranoid now and both sides are making noises to suggest if they don't win the result may be illegitimate. Pretty irresponsible.

Being a tad paranoid in a dangerous situation is natural and fair. I think the Democrats are right to right at this time to be very concerned about what is spouted by the Republicans.

I hope the authorities are currently preparing for the worst by reviewing their roles, responsibilities, scope, procedures, etc. The US's future could be reliant on people knowing their jobs.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Being a tad paranoid in a dangerous situation is natural and fair. I think the Democrats are right to right at this time to be very concerned about what is spouted by the Republicans.

I hope the authorities are currently preparing for the worst by reviewing their roles, responsibilities, scope, procedures, etc. The US's future could be reliant on people knowing their jobs.

In this case, it is not only “fair”, it is everyone’s duty to call it out and work to combat it. Those that refuse to do so, at this point, are complicit.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of “good Germans” about these days which want to minimise, obfuscate, or ignore the mounting danger of the rise of this new fascist movement.

I still strongly encourage any interested to listen to the first segment of this episode of On The Media (NPR series). It features a professor of Philosophy at Yale University who has written several books about fascism.

He actually highlights how many aspects of MAGA rhetoric, policies, and governmental actions are straight from Nazi Germany. And how refusing to acknowledge that, or even call it what it is, is similar to what happened in the 1920s, when many refused to recognise the danger of the rhetoric and promised policies and actions Hitler and his surrogates were espousing, which helped the Nazis rise to power and commit myriad atrocities.

His books are also must reads, in my opinion.

This is absolutely a hill I will die on, as I refuse to be complicit in the rise of the American Nazi Party.


Fascism, Fear and the Science Behind Horror Films

Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Jason Stanley, a professor of Philosophy at Yale University and who has written several books on fascism. He first warned about Trump's fascist rhetoric in 2018, and explains why it's more important than ever to call it by its name.

https://one.npr.org/i/1261127421:1261127423

 

[The blue phantom]

Trump is now strong favourite in all the categories bar One and closing in on the Popular Vote. Remarkable tbh.

Could he really do a clean sweep?

To be President.........1/2
Control of Senate......1/6
Control of House.......4/5
Popular Vote..............13/8