Donald Trump

The blue phantom said:
Odds on favourite now with every bookie to become president. There's some really good money to make if you think he won't get the job.
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What are the best odds if I want to bet against? Not sure I understand -- the NH polls predicted DOUBLE the margin for Trump then it actually ended up being (which is why he's so mad) and as others have pointed out, independents (who can vote in the GOP primary) went for the opposition (Haley) at unprecedented levels in NH. Trump MUST of needs get independents. I don't get it. I'm in.
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
What are the best odds if I want to bet against? Not sure I understand -- the NH polls predicted DOUBLE the margin for Trump then it actually ended up being (which is why he's so mad) and as others have pointed out, independents (who can vote in the GOP primary) went for the opposition (Haley) at unprecedented levels in NH. Trump MUST of needs get independents. I don't get it. I'm in.
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Unfortunately, bettors have been rather more accurate than pollsters when predicting election outcomes; and even if seeking solace in polls, there's none to be had.

I'm cautiously optimistic that bettors have this one wrong, and that a (hoped-for) Trump felony conviction coupled with (hoped-for) introduction of abortion rights measures into the 2024 ballots will tip the outcome in Biden's favor; optimistic but without great conviction.
 
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FogBlueInSanFran said:
What are the best odds if I want to bet against? Not sure I understand -- the NH polls predicted DOUBLE the margin for Trump then it actually ended up being (which is why he's so mad) and as others have pointed out, independents (who can vote in the GOP primary) went for the opposition (Haley) at unprecedented levels in NH. Trump MUST of needs get independents. I don't get it. I'm in.
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If you want to back Joe Biden you'll have round about 190% profit on your stake.

If you want to Lay Trump ( Basically you wanting him to lose against anyone) you'll have around 90% Profit on your stake.

This is the market to lay Trump on.

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BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:

Unfortunately, bettors have been rather more accurate than pollsters when predicting election outcomes; and even if seeking solace in polls, there's none to be had.

I'm cautiously optimistic that bettors have this one wrong, and that a (hoped-for) Trump felony conviction coupled with (hoped-for) introduction of abortion rights measures into the 2024 ballots will tip the outcome in Biden's favor; optimistic but without great conviction.
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Could well be that the odds are skewed by the number of his moronic supporters who are lumping on him, whereas most people are avoiding this market because there’s too many uncertainties.
 
west didsblue said:
Could well be that the odds are skewed by the number of his moronic supporters who are lumping on him, whereas most people are avoiding this market because there’s too many uncertainties.
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There will be people trading on the price, so any time something positive for trump happens they will back him in and then trade out. Then the actual bookies will drop their odds as well to stop them being arbed.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Of course they will bottle it, he put them there. This is the inherent flaw in their daft system which removes the seperation of powers
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I asked this before, I think.

If not the President who nominates (and whose nominees must be passed through congressional committee, and then approved by both legislative bodies -- who represent the people), how should the Supreme Court justices be determined? By the way, since all three branches of government participate in the process, I don't know how separation of pwers is "removed".

Your answer must offer an ironclad guarantee that whatever process you suggest cannot be politically influenced in any way, shape or form.

Thinking about it, I think you'll find that there is no way. It's not an inherently flawed system. It's a system that becomes flawed if those in it ignore their oaths and abuse the trust placed in them.

Now if you want to argue that ethics rules aren't remotely stringent enough, or SC justices shouldn't be appointed for life, or there should be more of them, then those are different issues that could bring about postentially positive change.
 
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