Elbow beards
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Oh dear, you've summed up your own post with that last line.
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Donald Trump
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Ah the ol’‘genuine question’, the mark of a waste of time replying to the ‘genuine questioner’… and yet I did
I'd like to see a cease-fire. The longer this war goes on, sooner or later UK soldiers will be killed on the front lines!
The Project for the New American Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
I'm just getting tired of my country getting shitter and shitter, whilst I see government sanction bombing and killing thousands of miles away.
The fact that we never even hear the notion of a cease-fire??? Why?
I'm sure we all live in communities that would love £1billion pounds worth of investment - yet we either have that money being funneled off to Ukraine, or dripped off to cunts like Radcliffe with Trafford Council planning
mosssideblue
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Can you explain exactly how Trump would stop the war in one day please as I'd love to knowHow's Trump to blame for her son fighting in Europe in the next world war? He's the only President who didn't get his country into a war ffs - and crossed the border into North Korea to meet Rocket Man!
Look upstream from Trump... Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Obama, Biden, Project for the New American Century 1997... it's war, war, war.
Vivek and Trump are the only two I've heard say that they'd put a stop to the war in Ukraine. Trump said he'd stop the war on day 1.
There is an election in the UK this year as well, what levels of strong leadership on this issue have we seen from the UK? It's all just more funding to Ukraine, at the expense of everything the UK has left.
Sad, very sad.
grunge
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I'd like to see a cease-fire. The longer this war goes on, sooner or later UK soldiers will be killed on the front lines!
The Project for the New American Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
I'm just getting tired of my country getting shitter and shitter, whilst I see government sanction bombing and killing thousands of miles away.
The fact that we never even hear the notion of a cease-fire??? Why?
I'm sure we all live in communities that would love £1billion pounds worth of investment - yet we either have that money being funneled off to Ukraine, or dripped off to cunts like Radcliffe with Trafford Council planning
So Putin and his Cronies over the last year or so have claimed that Ukraine is there’s. That it has no right to exist. That even if they get stopped now or there is a cease fire they will regroup and try again in 10/20/50 years.
Putin has said himself that “he will return sovereignty to Europe” what do you think that means?
The only way this stops is if we all help stop it now. If we don’t it will be on our door steps at some point.
Why no cease fire?I'd like to see a cease-fire. The longer this war goes on, sooner or later UK soldiers will be killed on the front lines!
The Project for the New American Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
I'm just getting tired of my country getting shitter and shitter, whilst I see government sanction bombing and killing thousands of miles away.
The fact that we never even hear the notion of a cease-fire??? Why?
I'm sure we all live in communities that would love £1billion pounds worth of investment - yet we either have that money being funneled off to Ukraine, or dripped off to cunts like Radcliffe with Trafford Council planning
Because the Russian position is the ceding of territory by Ukraine.
So Putin and his Cronies over the last year or so have claimed that Ukraine is there’s. That it has no right to exist. That even if they get stopped now or there is a cease fire they will regroup and try again in 10/20/50 years.
Putin has said himself that “he will return sovereignty to Europe” what do you think that means?
The only way this stops is if we all help stop it now. If we don’t it will be on our door steps at some point.
The only way this stops is if we all help stop it now.
Are you going to the front lines are you?
Putin isn't invading Poland - this is scaremongering by all the radio and news we all listen to and watch.
Putin wants his Crimea, he wants his warm-weather port, and he wants territories to be allowed to vote without being bombed. Donbass, Luhansk etc.
Nightmare Walking
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I am all for self determination. If those areas want to be ruled by Russia, so be it. I am all for a vote. But, no vote can be organised or invigilated by the Russians.The only way this stops is if we all help stop it now.
Are you going to the front lines are you?
Putin isn't invading Poland - this is scaremongering by all the radio and news we all listen to and watch.
Putin wants his Crimea, he wants his warm-weather port, and he wants territories to be allowed to vote without being bombed. Donbass, Luhansk etc.
Do you really think that if there was a fair vote, Russian troops would just up and leave those areas if the people there voted to stay part of Ukraine?
There is a reason the Russians are trying to take areas by force. If you can win at the ballot box, you don't go to war.
ChicagoBlue
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Aggression, followed by annexation, followed by a ceasefire WITHOUT returning to pre-war borders is a loss.I'd like to see a cease-fire. The longer this war goes on, sooner or later UK soldiers will be killed on the front lines!
The Project for the New American Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
I'm just getting tired of my country getting shitter and shitter, whilst I see government sanction bombing and killing thousands of miles away.
The fact that we never even hear the notion of a cease-fire??? Why?
I'm sure we all live in communities that would love £1billion pounds worth of investment - yet we either have that money being funneled off to Ukraine, or dripped off to cunts like Radcliffe with Trafford Council planning
Europe cannot allow Putin to push out beyond the borders of Russia, which is why it is so important to embrace the old Eastern European countries and bring them
Into the NATO family.
Putin ONLY fears the might of NATO, which is why it’s imperative that the U.S. (read Trump!) not abandon Ukraine or NATO, and try to bring Ukraine into the family ASAP.
In this case, a ceasefire would be an expensive loss, which would mean Crimea and now the entire coastline of the Black Sea being ceded to Russia…and the removal of any European ports from those critical waters.
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ChicagoBlue
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When you start considering what the citizens of Ukraine want, I’ll start listening to you. Until then, you are a Putin mouthpiece and war crime appeaser.The only way this stops is if we all help stop it now.
Are you going to the front lines are you?
Putin isn't invading Poland - this is scaremongering by all the radio and news we all listen to and watch.
Putin wants his Crimea, he wants his warm-weather port, and he wants territories to be allowed to vote without being bombed. Donbass, Luhansk etc.
Aggression, followed by annexation, followed by a ceasefire WITHOUT returning to pre-war borders is a loss.
Europe cannot allow Putin to push out beyond the borders of Russia, which is why it is so important to embrace the old Eastern European countries and bring them
Into the NATO family.
Putin ONLY fears the might of NATO, which is why it’s imperative that the U.S. (read Trump!) not abandon Ukraine or NATO, and try to bring Ukraine into the family ASAP.
In this case, a ceasefire would be an expensive loss would mean Crimea and now the entire coastline of the Black Sea being ceded to Russia…and the removal of any European ports from those critical waters.