Donald Trump

The Future’s Blue! said:
Eh, it was a genuine observation and didn’t question your supposed allegiance. With American funding/resources, Ukraine were holding their own, and only with the withdrawal of said funds has it led to where we are today.

Therefore, it only stands to reason that you may have had an inkling that this would happen as it never crossed my mind that America would turn their back on Ukraine, especially as they would have had a huge influence on Ukraine standing up to Russia.
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Maybe I jumped the gun mate . What I did say a year ago was that this war iid insustainable and in the end even though it shouldn’t happen is that Ukraine will almost likely cede land to Russia most probably the donbass . I’m not pro putin of pro trump I just say what I see .
 
Paul1970 said:
Maybe I jumped the gun mate . What I did say a year ago was that this war iid insustainable and in the end even though it shouldn’t happen is that Ukraine will almost likely cede land to Russia most probably the donbass . I’m not pro putin of pro trump I just say what I see .
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And it’s a reasonable assumption to make, it would have to finish one way or another and negotiation will eventually unlock a path to peace.
 
Paul1970 said:
I know we don’t want to hear it but will he will piss this election
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You shouldn’t be getting stick for what the assumed underlying motives are for posting this — you should be getting stick for posting an opinion without any data to support it.

You say he will piss the election — ok — why? What’s your argument, supported with context/numbers to back it up?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
And it’s a reasonable assumption to make, it would have to finish one way or another and negotiation will eventually unlock a path to peace.
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Peace?? You’re having a giraffe…everyone knows that he can‘t be trusted and won’t be satisfied until he has all of Ukraine. He may get what he’s after now, but penny to a bag of shit, he will re-arm then move westwards again…meanwhile, he will shore up his bits of Georgia/Moldova etc and ferment dissent to slowly but surely firm up his side of the curtain…

Trump would be an absolute disaster as far as NATO and the West are concerned as he cosied up to his unsavoury mates…undermining Europe at every turn…
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
You shouldn’t be getting stick for what the assumed underlying motives are for posting this — you should be getting stick for posting an opinion without any data to support it.

You say he will piss the election — ok — why? What’s your argument, supported with context/numbers to back it up?
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Don’t ask awkward questions.
 
Paul1970 said:
Maybe I jumped the gun mate . What I did say a year ago was that this war iid insustainable and in the end even though it shouldn’t happen is that Ukraine will almost likely cede land to Russia most probably the donbass . I’m not pro putin of pro trump I just say what I see .
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We have very different recollections of your behaviour in that thread.

What I remember was -

- Posting Kremlin propaganda completely uncritically.
- Being convinced anything coming out of NATO states was bullshit.
- Telling everyone Russia was going to destroy Ukraine in weeks.
- Assuring us all that NATO would always back down.
- A really weird obsession with the fact a handful of Ukrainian paramilitary groups sided with Germany in WW2 agains the USSR.

To be honest you come across like every "Both sides!"-ist, pretending to be weighing up evidence from both sides to form an independent opinion, but quite clearly giving disproportionate weight and zero critical analysis to one side.

Your Trump opinions are pretty much copy and paste from Russia. You go on about Biden "losing his marbles" which oh what a surprise is the number 1 republican talking point for the election! Do you mention Trump's daily gaffes on stage? Can't remember his wife's name, thinks windmills cause cancer, bragged he was Michigan's man of the year, keeps confusing Haley with Nancy Pelosi, thinks Biden will cause World War TWO, thinks Victor Orban is president of Turkey. I could go on...

Any mention of those problems? No, because Fox News, Newsmax, OANN or wherever you're getting your balanced both sides media don't mention it.
 
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domalino said:
We have very different recollections of your behaviour in that thread.

What I remember was -

- Posting Kremlin propaganda completely uncritically.
- Being convinced anything coming out of NATO states was bullshit.
- Telling everyone Russia was going to destroy Ukraine in weeks.
- Assuring us all that NATO would always back down.
- A really weird obsession with the fact a handful of Ukrainian paramilitary groups sided with Germany in WW2 agains the USSR.

To be honest you come across like every "Both sides!"-ist, pretending to be weighing up evidence from both sides to form an independent opinion, but quite clearly giving disproportionate weight and zero critical analysis to one side.

Your Trump opinions are pretty much copy and paste from Russia. You go on about Biden "losing his marbles" which oh what a surprise is the number 1 republican talking point for the election! Do you mention Trump's daily gaffes on stage? Can't remember his wife's name, thinks windmills cause cancer, bragged he was Michigan's man of the year, keeps confusing Haley with Nancy Pelosi, thinks Biden will cause World War TWO, thinks Victor Orban is president of Turkey. I could go on...

Any mention of those problems? No, because Fox News, Newsmax, OANN or wherever you're getting your balanced both sides media don't mention it.
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Yes, but Hunter's laptop.
 
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