Donald Trump

[kaz7]

No doubt he has breached the gagging orders he has been given , stick him jail for twenty four hours , give him a short sharp shock

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

No doubt he has breached the gagging orders he has been given , stick him jail for twenty four hours , give him a short sharp shock

He's undoubtedly breached it and pissed of the judge in arguing about it. But he's not going to get much more than a fine. Suspended jail time at best.

The judge should put him on warning though. Crazy he's let him get away with so much already.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Wow, well that gag order hearing did not go well for the defence.

"To clarify, it is your client's position that there is a two-tiered justice system occurring in this courtroom?"
"That is his message, Your Honour."

"You're losing all credibility here, I'll tell you right now."

"This is not passive, he had to sit there, using quotation marks and the shift key."

Lol.

Judgment reserved, we'll find out what he'll do about it soon... but Justice Merchan was apparently visibly irritated. I agree with other commenters, it will likely be maximum fine + ultimatum that anything even approaching infringement will be met with a stint in jail. We'll then see how brave Trump is when that has been made crystal clear.

The tragic irony is that Trump is right, for once: there is a two-tiered justice system on exhibit in the courtroom.

It is the tier that bends over backwards to accommodate and advantage the wealthy and powerful.

Trump’s anger comes from his belief that he is not being accommodated and advantaged enough. And to people used to extreme privilege and deference, reduced privilege and deference is the same as injustice and oppression, even if a fraction of what he has been given would be the equivalent of substantial privilege and deference for almost any other participant in such proceedings.

 

[domalino]

He's undoubtedly breached it and pissed of the judge in arguing about it. But he's not going to get much more than a fine. Suspended jail time at best.

The judge should put him on warning though. Crazy he's let him get away with so much already.

The judge should impose the maximum fine (I think it’s $3000) for every breach.

Not just because over the course of all the trials it will add up to a significant amount for Trump, but also because it gets on record that he’s doing these things, and it’s an official conviction every time.

So not only will people be able to point to his dozen convictions for contempt in the future, the judge would also be laying the groundwork for himself or any of the other judges to actually send Trump to prison for contempt later.

 

[super_city_si]

Wow, well that gag order hearing did not go well for the defence.

"To clarify, it is your client's position that there is a two-tiered justice system occurring in this courtroom?"
"That is his message, Your Honour."

"You're losing all credibility here, I'll tell you right now."

"This is not passive, he had to sit there, using quotation marks and the shift key."

Lol.

Judgment reserved, we'll find out what he'll do about it soon... but Justice Merchan was apparently visibly irritated. I agree with other commenters, it will likely be maximum fine + ultimatum that anything even approaching infringement will be met with a stint in jail. We'll then see how brave Trump is when that has been made crystal clear.

He'll keep pushing it because everyone always backs down

 

[super_city_si]

The tragic irony is that Trump is right, for once: there is a two-tiered justice system on exhibit in the courtroom.

It is the tier that bends over backwards to accommodate and advantage the wealthy and powerful.

Trump’s anger comes from his belief that he is not being accommodated and advantaged enough. And to people used to extreme privilege and deference, reduced privilege and deference is the same as injustice and oppression, even if a fraction of what he has been given would be the equivalent of substantial privilege and deference for almost any other participant in such proceedings.

He STILL hasnt had to post bond in the Tax trial that ended ages ago

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

He STILL hasnt had to post bond in the Tax trial that ended ages ago

True. That is dragging on. But like all these Trump trials you think it's gone quiet and it will jump back to life.

 

[super_city_si]

True. That is dragging on. But like all these Trump trials you think it's gone quiet and it will jump back to life.

He essentially offered them an IOU at the last deadline

 

[SebastianBlue]

He STILL hasnt had to post bond in the Tax trial that ended ages ago

Any non-wealthy, non-powerful defendant would be in custody right now pending securing bond, as well.

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

On the $175m civil fraud bond - there was a hearing with Engoron yesterday as scheduled. They agreed that Trump needed to provide statements that the account is being held in cash with Schwab, that Knight is the only party with access to this account, and that this account is maintained at its current value - no withdrawals or purchasing of securities. They need to provide these statements every month until the appeal concludes.

They have until the end of the week to provide that evidence and sign an agreement with those terms.

Anybody's guess what happens next. Absolute circus.