Donald Trump

Blue Maverick said:
But Panama is not your country, accorroding to Trump you shouldn’t be interfering it’s got nothing to do with you same as the rest of the world, oh wait that’s unless it benefits him. Can’t have it both ways, you either help police the world or fuck of behind your own borders and become insular, just like Bush Jnr thought that was until 9/11 happened!
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Is Panama the world? Is Greenland the world? Is the Ukraine the world? Is the U.K.? South Korea? Singapore?

This is what Trump said in 2018 -

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world, we’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country."

From 2016 -

“I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world.”

Trump offered an explanation for the apparent change in his approach in an April 5 appearance with Jordan’s King Abdullah. “I like to think of myself as a very flexible person,” Trump said. “I don’t have to have one specific way, and if the world changes, I go the same way, I don’t change, well, I do change, and I am flexible, and I’m proud of that flexibility.”


This isn't complicated. He has been persuaded by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that his 2016 America First = global disengagement campaign is penny-wise but pound foolish.

Trump has changed his mind about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a core US alliance that he had dismissed on the campaign trail. “I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete,” he said at a Wednesday appearance with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

This isn't hard to understand. He has actually received new information, materially relevant information, and has changed his mind. Good. I'm glad he has.
 
Username Required said:
Is Panama the world? Is Greenland the world? Is the Ukraine the world? Is the U.K.? South Korea? Singapore?

This is what Trump said in 2018 -

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world, we’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country."

From 2016 -

“I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world.”

Trump offered an explanation for the apparent change in his approach in an April 5 appearance with Jordan’s King Abdullah. “I like to think of myself as a very flexible person,” Trump said. “I don’t have to have one specific way, and if the world changes, I go the same way, I don’t change, well, I do change, and I am flexible, and I’m proud of that flexibility.”


This isn't complicated. He has been persuaded by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that his 2016 America First = global disengagement campaign is penny-wise but pound foolish.

Trump has changed his mind about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a core US alliance that he had dismissed on the campaign trail. “I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete,” he said at a Wednesday appearance with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

This isn't hard to understand. He has actually received new information, materially relevant information, and has changed his mind. Good. I'm glad he has.
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But you still wouldn’t vote for him?
 
Username Required said:
Is Panama the world? Is Greenland the world? Is the Ukraine the world? Is the U.K.? South Korea? Singapore?

This is what Trump said in 2018 -

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world, we’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country."

From 2016 -

“I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world.”

Trump offered an explanation for the apparent change in his approach in an April 5 appearance with Jordan’s King Abdullah. “I like to think of myself as a very flexible person,” Trump said. “I don’t have to have one specific way, and if the world changes, I go the same way, I don’t change, well, I do change, and I am flexible, and I’m proud of that flexibility.”


This isn't complicated. He has been persuaded by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that his 2016 America First = global disengagement campaign is penny-wise but pound foolish.

Trump has changed his mind about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a core US alliance that he had dismissed on the campaign trail. “I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete,” he said at a Wednesday appearance with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

This isn't hard to understand. He has actually received new information, materially relevant information, and has changed his mind. Good. I'm glad he has.
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So why isn’t he telling Putin to fuck off out of Ukraine then? The guy talks bollocks to get elected then had now started back tracking, more fool you all for voting for him they guy is an imbecile he didn’t even know how tariffs worked!
 
Blue Maverick said:
So why isn’t he telling Putin to fuck off out of Ukraine then? The guy talks bollocks to get elected then had now started back tracking, more fool you all for voting for him they guy is an imbecile he didn’t even know how tariffs worked!
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Because ultimately Russia will win or at least pretty much keep what they have now. it's just a case of making them waste as much blood and treasure as possible to do so. Same as Russia arming the north Vietnamese, the US arming the Mujahedeen - the list goes ever on. It's a proxy war to bleed Russia, test western weaponry and enrich the arms industry. If we can seize frozen russian assets to pay the defence industry for the weapons Ukraine uses to fire at Russia then so much the better.
 
Blue Maverick said:
So why isn’t he telling Putin to fuck off out of Ukraine then? The guy talks bollocks to get elected then had now started back tracking, more fool you all for voting for him they guy is an imbecile he didn’t even know how tariffs worked!
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He hasn't NOW started "back-tracking", he started to change his mind years ago. If you want to characterize it as "back-tracking" knock yourself out. I suppose Trump is the first person to ever run for office anywhere ever to make promises on the campaign circuit then reverse course, or extend and revise his remarks, or simply change his mind when actual experts got in his ear and told him the truth. If Donald Trump's unrealistic rather shallow inchoate plan to try and disengage from being the world's police man was as dumb as a box of rocks, I'm rather pleased he is doing the opposite of what people claim - that he never listens to people that flat contradict him.

When Barrack Obama promised there was a U.S. red-line in Syria, then failed miserably to follow-through, claiming a year later that it was the world's red-line, was that

a. back-tracking
b. changing his mind in accordance with new information and changing circumstances

Joe Biden has been in the news recently over his blanket pardon for his tax-avoiding crack head son. Did Joe Biden backtrack ( or was it just a lie) on his many promises during election season not to interfere in the jury verdict, plea, or administration of justice or did he just change his mind in accordance with new information and changing circumstances.

I have no idea why he isn't telling Putin's army to get the fuck out of the Ukraine. I agree with Mazzarelli that this war is proving an ideal arena to test all types of new weapons and targeting systems from the earth to space, examine evolving tactics in real-time with instant feed-back, stress-test military supply chains and so on.

Finally, I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm not going to spend the next four years shouting in impotent rage about everything he says or does. If he fucks up, I'll say so and why I think it is the case. If he does something I think is on the money, I'll say so.
 
Vic said:
For an isolationist he sure sounds imperialist.
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Mr Kobayashi said:
Not particularly unusual in American history.
He's a throwback to the Roosevelt corrallary and the Monroe doctrine.

Although his idealogy is more brazen because at that timethey at least pretended to be acting in the name of peace and goodwill.
From his pov the Americas are the US's sphere of influence and they can do as they like. If he decides he wants a piece of Canada or Mexico he'd order an invasion if he was told it would work.
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You're both making the mistake of believing he understands what he is saying.
 
Username Required said:
Is Panama the world? Is Greenland the world? Is the Ukraine the world? Is the U.K.? South Korea? Singapore?

This is what Trump said in 2018 -

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world, we’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country."

From 2016 -

“I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world.”

Trump offered an explanation for the apparent change in his approach in an April 5 appearance with Jordan’s King Abdullah. “I like to think of myself as a very flexible person,” Trump said. “I don’t have to have one specific way, and if the world changes, I go the same way, I don’t change, well, I do change, and I am flexible, and I’m proud of that flexibility.”


This isn't complicated. He has been persuaded by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that his 2016 America First = global disengagement campaign is penny-wise but pound foolish.

Trump has changed his mind about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a core US alliance that he had dismissed on the campaign trail. “I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete,” he said at a Wednesday appearance with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

This isn't hard to understand. He has actually received new information, materially relevant information, and has changed his mind. Good. I'm glad he has.
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When America stops policing the world, the Chinese will step in and do it. America will lose all its influence and be a poorer place for it.
 
Username Required said:

Is China’s ‘Debt-Trap Diplomacy’ in Greenland Simply on Ice?​


Should Greeland continue to move toward independence, the cash-strapped territory would be at high risk of falling prey to Chinese investments that seek to gain influence.

thediplomat.com

Is China’s ‘Debt-Trap Diplomacy’ in Greenland Simply on Ice?

Should Greeland continue to move toward independence, the cash-strapped territory would be at high risk of falling prey to Chinese investments that seek to gain influence.
thediplomat.com

Just google "greenland chinese influence" and read. Page after page.

I get it. Laugh at moron Trump. That's what matters.

Greenland’s Strategic Importance in the Green Transition, Defense, and Independence from Chinese Supply Chains.​


www.critical-minerals.info

Greenland’s Strategic Importance in the Green Transition, Defense, and Independence from Chinese Supply Chains

Greenland is rapidly gaining global recognition as an untapped resource powerhouse, crucial for the world's green transition, advanced defense technologies, and Western countries' efforts to reduce their dependence on China for critical minerals. In particular, the European Union (EU) has...
www.critical-minerals.info www.critical-minerals.info

All of these are issues raised by the military, intelligence analysts, business leaders, academics, diplomats. You know the experts. Now when Trump gets involved it's just all a big laugh.

The Coldest Geopolitical Hotspot: Global Powers Vie for Arctic Dominance over Greenland​

Located in the Arctic Circle, Greenland, along with the rest of the “High North,” is strategically positioned on the shortest routes connecting Asia, Europe, and North America.

In 2019, President Trump tried to purchase Greenland, a proposal that left Denmark’s leadership “bewildered.” The unprecedented attempt to purchase the island reflected a shift in US policymakers’ priorities toward extending a greater influence over the region. While the United States cares about the availability of new resources due to thawing ice sheets, the country is more concerned about limiting the influence of rival powers such as China. From 2012 to 2017, China invested US$450 billion across eight Arctic nations to establish the Northern Sea Route, a shorter shipping route to Europe with an accompanying submarine internet link. The Northern Sea Route’s internet cables support future techno-based growth in the Arctic and allow China to boost defense capabilities by monitoring cyberspace around the region. In addition to technological developments, China attempted to establish a hold over Greenland’s iron and uranium mining industries. The Chinese government declared its intent in 2018 to create a “Polar Silk Road” in order to link Europe with Asia and facilitate transportation channels.

hir.harvard.edu

The Coldest Geopolitical Hotspot: Global Powers Vie for Arctic Dominance over Greenland

"Greenland may feel cold and distant, but the country is now an Arctic hub, rich with military, economic, and political incentives."
hir.harvard.edu hir.harvard.edu
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So the Hong Kong firm that owns the ports at Panama also owns Felixstowe, London's Electricity cables and Wales's gas pipes, a third of Britain's trains, and Superdrug...

Can the American invasion be expected soon?
 
Username Required said:
Is Panama the world? Is Greenland the world? Is the Ukraine the world? Is the U.K.? South Korea? Singapore?

This is what Trump said in 2018 -

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world, we’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said. “We want to police ourselves and we want to rebuild our country."

From 2016 -

“I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world.”

Trump offered an explanation for the apparent change in his approach in an April 5 appearance with Jordan’s King Abdullah. “I like to think of myself as a very flexible person,” Trump said. “I don’t have to have one specific way, and if the world changes, I go the same way, I don’t change, well, I do change, and I am flexible, and I’m proud of that flexibility.”


This isn't complicated. He has been persuaded by the U.S. military and intelligence agencies that his 2016 America First = global disengagement campaign is penny-wise but pound foolish.

Trump has changed his mind about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a core US alliance that he had dismissed on the campaign trail. “I said it was obsolete. It is no longer obsolete,” he said at a Wednesday appearance with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

This isn't hard to understand. He has actually received new information, materially relevant information, and has changed his mind. Good. I'm glad he has.
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These American posters dont half feel the need to put shit either in bold or capital letters mind. Dont understand why really
 
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