Douglas Luiz

[HalfwayUpTheKippax]

then why was

perer ried
steve mcmahon
niel mcnab
mike doyle
paul lake

etc

all wore 4 when playing the holding midfield role

growing up in the 80s was always in school and most teams in the uk at least

1– Goalkeeper
2– RB
3– LB
4– DM
5– CB
6– CB
7– RW
8– CM or secondary striker
9– Striker
10– CM or secodary striker
11– LW

Remember, it is i before e exept after r or n

 

[blueparrot]

He also played midfield

Always remember him as a defender, though I was young then so wouldn't have noticed position changes.

 

[Ajm1985]

https://archive.is/o9YIV

Piece from Michael Cox on the 4/6 and I think he covers it in his Zonal Marking book. The usage was different in European & English football, and the 6 role is now used interchangeably for DM

 

[rice10]

It all goes back to the old WM formations and where the modern positions were moved from. It is why in Brazil for example it is traditional for their left back to wear the number 6 where as you will often see a CB wearing number 3. Roberto Carlos and Lucio are the ones that I seem to remember.

Now like with most things the world is so connected that these little differences are slowly merging together and disappearing.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Looks like a seal of approval to me.

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It’s mink!

 

[blue b4 the moon]

then why was

perer ried
steve mcmahon
niel mcnab
mike doyle
paul lake

etc

all wore 4 when playing the holding midfield role

growing up in the 80s was always in school and most teams in the uk at least

1– Goalkeeper
2– RB
3– LB
4– DM
5– CB
6– CB
7– RW
8– CM or secondary striker
9– Striker
10– CM or secodary striker
11– LW

IIRC in the 70's it was Doyle/Booth as 4 & 5 and Oakes in midfield as No.6.

 

[johnny crossan]

IIRC in the 70's it was Doyle/Booth as 4 & 5 and Oakes in midfield as No.6.

Wish we had Oakesy now.

 

[simon23]

he didn't stay cause of an issue with a work permit wasn't it?

Zubemendi woukd also be the player for me....Big issue however is that seemingly he fiesnt want to continue..already turned down the scousers ( who whether you like it or not are a big pull for players).

You have seen the result of sticking with what we have for the last few months....midfield has been woeful and the biggest part of the problem ..new players in is the only way to solve that...Gundo is finished. Rico ain't good enough in midfield and mo matter how hard Bernardo works he ain't a DM....neither is Nunes or Kovacic

Stay as we are we finish outside the top 6 easily. Don’t let the last couple of wins fool you......

It was a total different system at villa. The style and system we play pep obviously didn't think he was able to play it for us otherwise he would have stayed with us?? Zubemendi would be the 1 for me if we could convince him to move!! Other than that I think we stick with what we have and probably add a number 8 maybe Luiz think him an kovacic are very similar more of 8s pressers and ball carrier's.

 

[Rammy Blue]

It’s a weird one.

DM is clearly our Achilles heel and yet we are looking at a loan option. Makes me think Rodri is coming back sooner than we think and the club has decided to go for another player who can play when rodders needs a break or we need more strength in midfield.

No one is taking rodders place in the team.

Seems odd.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that there are 3 weeks left in the window.

Yes, we are active immediately with the potential incomings, but imo we will be 100% in for a top player for the defensive midfield role, however it might be one that has to get done later in the window rather than the start.

In an ideal world we’d have that player in fast as possible, but maybe we are prepared to wait as it’s the most important signing of the window.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Why chase Zubimendi when he clearly didn’t want to leave Spain? Unless he has changed his mind and if that has happened, you would think he would want to come now before we buy someone else in the summer.

I would love to know how far Rodri is away from coming back. I don’t mean playing game after game but training with the team.

The hole he left exposed our aging/fatigued squad.

It’s interesting. I can get the CB need. I can get we need a Haaland backup/someone who can play along the front.

I still can’t see why we haven’t went in big for a dm.

Might not be popular but I would take that mainoo if that’s real and not a negotiating tactic.

The soonest Rodders can be back playing is May, no ifs no buts when it’s an ACL.

 

[IrishBloodEnglishHeart]

The soonest Rodders can be back playing is May, no ifs no buts when it’s an ACL.

Rodri said himself in November that he hoped to be back before the end of the season as he was recovering well and ahead of schedule.

Like you say, it’s an ACL so we’ll see.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Why chase Zubimendi when he clearly didn’t want to leave Spain? Unless he has changed his mind and if that has happened, you would think he would want to come now before we buy someone else in the summer.

I would love to know how far Rodri is away from coming back. I don’t mean playing game after game but training with the team.

The hole he left exposed our aging/fatigued squad.

It’s interesting. I can get the CB need. I can get we need a Haaland backup/someone who can play along the front.

I still can’t see why we haven’t went in big for a dm.

Might not be popular but I would take that mainoo if that’s real and not a negotiating tactic.

More recent reports suggest Zubi regretted his decision not to move to Liverpool but at the same time doesn’t want to leave Spain mid-season.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Zubimendi is too similar to Rodri, we need someone to compliment him more.

We need some pace, athleticism and box to box ability.

Yes it’s a tricky one. I’d like a player that could play with him but I don’t want to fall to bits if Rodri can’t play.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Rodri said himself in November that he hoped to be back before the end of the season as he was recovering well and ahead of schedule.

Like you say, it’s an ACL so we’ll see.

If he’s having the op where they fashion a ligament out of a bit of your hammy, it takes the better part of a year for those fibres to solidify into ligament I think, so May ain’t happening…..unless of course Rodders has magic hamstrings

 

[paull1]

If he’s having the op where they fashion a ligament out of a bit of your hammy, it takes the better part of a year for those fibres to solidify into ligament I think, so May ain’t happening…..unless of course Rodders has magic hamstrings

not if he's using stem cell therapy also

 

[IrishBloodEnglishHeart]

If he’s having the op where they fashion a ligament out of a bit of your hammy, it takes the better part of a year for those fibres to solidify into ligament I think, so May ain’t happening…..unless of course Rodders has magic hamstrings

I think he’s had his op and he’s walking about now.

I wouldn’t be in any rush to get him back, even if we are crap without him.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

not if he's using stem cell therapy also

You don’t get that on the NHS!

 

[mike1923]

Rodri said himself in November that he hoped to be back before the end of the season as he was recovering well and ahead of schedule.

Like you say, it’s an ACL so we’ll see.

He might have meant the club World Cup?

 

[mike1923]

he didn't stay cause of an issue with a work permit wasn't it?

Zubemendi woukd also be the player for me....Big issue however is that seemingly he fiesnt want to continue..already turned down the scousers ( who whether you like it or not are a big pull for players).

You have seen the result of sticking with what we have for the last few months....midfield has been woeful and the biggest part of the problem ..new players in is the only way to solve that...Gundo is finished. Rico ain't good enough in midfield and mo matter how hard Bernardo works he ain't a DM....neither is Nunes or Kovacic

Stay as we are we finish outside the top 6 easily. Don’t let the last couple of wins fool you......

Correct. He couldn’t get a work permit with us as he wasn’t a Brazil international then and wasn’t in the required top x % of earners for us, but was at Villa

 

[IrishBloodEnglishHeart]

He might have meant the club World Cup?

I think his words were 6/7 months from the injury which would mean March/April. It would be an absolute miracle if he did come back for then, so I’d say the CWC is more realistic.