Dublin stabbings / violence

The thing that puzzles me is that all the information says just that he was a “naturalised citizen” who had lived in Ireland for over 20 years, the rioting/unrest didn’t start until 2 hours later and the person who stopped the alleged attacker was also an immigrant. So why did the rioting/unrest start?

Was it because of rumours and misinformation on the internet? Was it because of unrest already being felt in Dublin? What exactly started it?
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Well, well. Who'd have thought the disenfranchised, working classes, would now become known as the 'far right' ? You learn something new every day.
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When pretending to be the only ones looking out for the disenfranchised working classes it’s important to remember to look down your nose at them as well.
 
Eccles Blue said:
The thing that puzzles me is that all the information says just that he was a “naturalised citizen” who had lived in Ireland for over 20 years, the rioting/unrest didn’t start until 2 hours later and the person who stopped the alleged attacker was also an immigrant. So why did the rioting/unrest start?

Was it because of rumours and misinformation on the internet? Was it because of unrest already being felt in Dublin? What exactly started it?
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Don't let facts get in the way of a good anti-immigrant riot!

It's an organised yet opportunistic political stunt at its ugly best.
 
A lot of the people who supported Adolf were 'disenfranchised, working classes'. They had had years of unemployment and despair, and for a time, Hitler and the Nazis offered what seemed like hope. Many were willing to trade freedom for work and food. It's easy to judge, but when you've got nothing, nothing at all, you're easy to tempt.

He also offered them someone to blame. In those days, it wasn't the EU and the immigrants, it was the communists and the Jews. People love having someone to blame for what they see as their (perceived) unjust disadvantage.

The cure for all this, by the way, is universal prosperity. We had it for a time, roughly from 1945 to 1979. Then the greedy bastards started wanting more, even though they were already far richer than the majority. This meant the lower orders started to lose their 'public wage' - state services - and more recently, their real job wage and security in society. The problem is not capitalism, per se, but the form of corporate capitalism that has developed, which shits on 99% for the benefit of 1%.

“There, my Lord, is your enemy! There are your guns!” But it's easier to charge against the immigrants, and the other people at the bottom of the pile. That's what the Daily Mail wants you to do.
 


The size of the knife that young un pulls out.
Braverman and people like her know how to divide the population. Nothing changes for those at the top of the food chain Dublin is no different than any other big City in these islands
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
many wouldn't even cared whether the perpetrator was foreign or not - they just couldn't wait to go and get involved in burning stuff and throwing bricks at police. morons
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Saw video of them taking charity collection boxes for a local hospital from McDonald’s.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Obviously the far right was involved. It's not a normal reaction to riot because of the ethnic origin of a suspect/perpetrator of a horrible crime.
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To be honest I’m not sure Eire has or had a problem with the far right, it does have a small population though when they get a large influx of people from cultures totally different from the local one it stands out a mile and when one of them given refuge there stabs a woman and young kids it sets off a chain reaction which ended up in what we saw last night in Dublin.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
This is a totally genuine question because maybe I’m just looking in the wrong places but…

“the minute anyone asks a question about immigration and it’s affects on local populace, they are immediately branded a racist.”

Are there any specific examples of this on here? I don’t think I’ve ever seen somebody called a racist for stating such - especially given 99%+ of people want controlled migration. Literally nobody I know wants completely unfettered immigration, so why would discussing the policy ever be a problem? I’ve seen people called racist, of course, but it’s usually because they follow up that sentiment with something that actually is racist.

It all sounds a bit Stewart Lee “they’ll throw you in jail for saying you’re English”

I’m happy to be proven wrong.
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Ok so i wont trawl through to find examles, but it happens. On here and in real life.
Im not right wing. Im pretty A-political really. The years of politicians being cunts has ground me down and i cant honestly feel any attachment to any party these days.

I digress. It goes on. There was an irish politician, sorry didnt catch his name , on the radio this morning who in as many words was saying if you have an issue with immigration then youre a racist. Not a proud irishman, not a patriot. It was straight into that. No thoughts for concerns that decent irish may have.

I absolutely and utterly condemn the actions last night but maybe its how they are being pushed now. Maybe they are sick of being not listened too.
 
Ducado said:
On reflection I don’t think the riots were politically motivated by the far right the incident was just a trigger like people are saying it belies the problems Dublin is having, and to fair it’s not a unique situation, here in Manchester you have all the problems of creeping gentrification, pushing people out of areas and making housing unaffordable to those on ordinary incomes. It does seem that a rising tide does not float all boats
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It was ' organised ' by a small number of right wingers and once the fuse had been lit,well we saw what happened.
We have a housing crisis that's putting huge pressure on people, I'm in my fifties and have a number of friends either living with their parents or kids living with them, it really is bad.
We have a venal government, maybe not as bad as the Tories but not far behind.
The two main parties in bed together to keep Sinn Fein out but they gaslight the country every day though I wonder if the Shinners would be any better.
I would expect some kind of march protesting the right to be organised soon, we do like to get out on the streets.
 
Not a good look for Dublin on the world's stage..can't see this being the last of the violence
 
Phil1 said:
Only the parts where the forriners live would be my guess.
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I‘ll wait and see if he responds.

There does seem to be a narrative that these things were always going to happen, rather than it being a totally disproportionate act carried out before actually finding out what had happened, alongside muddying the waters with defining the far right.

It’s probably more people susceptible to populist slogans. They probably don’t have a wing in politics, just want all immigration stopped, which is ludicrous.
 
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