Dunne

Dunne made a stupid mistake, he played well in the second half, he made a stupid mistake, but if one of the many chances we had were burried we wouldn't be pointing fingers.

He made a mistake, a stupid one at that, but no one knows the price of it more then Dunne himself. He's done enough for City in the past to be given a second chance.

On another note when Dunne was sent off, Given commanded well from the back, especially when Dunne was sent off. Which is good to see. Was hoping he'd score at the end, he's a decent outfield player, they should have passed him the ball, he wasn't marked at the edge of the area. Lol.
 
IrishMacca said:
Dunne made a stupid mistake, he played well in the second half, he made a stupid mistake, but if one of the many chances we had were burried we wouldn't be pointing fingers.

He made a mistake, a stupid one at that, but no one knows the price of it more then Dunne himself. He's done enough for City in the past to be given a second chance.

On another note when Dunne was sent off, Given commanded well from the back, especially when Dunne was sent off. Which is good to see. Was hoping he'd score at the end, he's a decent outfield player, they should have passed him the ball, he wasn't marked at the edge of the area. Lol.
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Hes been making bad mistakes his entire city career, seriously hes not good enough for were we want to go.
 
"Hes been making bad mistakes his entire city career, seriously hes not good enough for were we want to go."
Challenger1978


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Thats why hes been City's player of the year, for countless number of years !

We got beat last week, end of. We did enuf to win a second leg tonite. Some of them acheieved near city legend some of themm were sit .... typical city


BUT WHO GIVES A FUCK ?????


We're blue we're white. we're fucin dinamite. City, City the best team in the land an all the world !
 
alot of what dunne did wrong tonight is because he was covering for richards, who has no positional sence whatsoever. but dunne has been awful this season. both are being carried by the rest of the defence and shay. both are a liability. dunnes city career, as we all know is at an end and he will be offloaded in the summer and richards will be lucky if we dont go out and buy a class full back in the summer to replace him or put zab back in there. frustrating that poor defending again has cost us big.

also our captain should not be getting sent off, in 1 season, what is it 3 or 4 times now?? unless he is keane or vieira!!
 
Challenger1978 said:
IrishMacca said:
Dunne made a stupid mistake, he played well in the second half, he made a stupid mistake, but if one of the many chances we had were burried we wouldn't be pointing fingers.

He made a mistake, a stupid one at that, but no one knows the price of it more then Dunne himself. He's done enough for City in the past to be given a second chance.

On another note when Dunne was sent off, Given commanded well from the back, especially when Dunne was sent off. Which is good to see. Was hoping he'd score at the end, he's a decent outfield player, they should have passed him the ball, he wasn't marked at the edge of the area. Lol.
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Hes been making bad mistakes his entire city career, seriously hes not good enough for were we want to go.
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I'd echo that - he's cost us more goals and ultimately matches than any other player this season. Yes he gets the odd good last ditch tackle in but so often this season he's been in the wrong place at the wrong time or hacked too many forwards down giving them free kicks in scoring positions - that is of couse when he's not scoring them in our goal himself
 
exactly... sighs* captains should set an example and boost the morale of the team. Getting sent off has the inverse effect. He fouled once - He fouled twice yelllow card he fouled 3 times - ref said its been 3 times 1 more your off- he fouls again red card... How did we all here know he was gunna do somethin stupid and get carded.

End of the day- Dunne though player of the year quite a few times is not a player of our future aspirations. He aint quick enough, his too old and he aint gettting any younger. Mind you im not being irrational putting blame on Dunne as ive had this attitude of him for a long time over past posts
 
Its already been pointed out that Dunnie has been our player of the year countless times, is a full international, and up untill we got stuck with the clueless one, part of one of the tightest defences in the premier along with Micha...........now both are under attack for following orders of a manager who does not know what he`s doing!.

Richards does not loiter up the pitch off his own bat, and I doubt he is stupid enough to think he can go back with a winger and keep up, never mind get a tackle in from the side.

Dunne is a centeral defender, strong and powerful in and around the box, what he is not is a right full back, and certainly not able to do both jobs at the same time, because when he gets dragged over to cover the missing right back the whole defence has to come across resulting in us being wide open for the far post ball, and a central defender up against a winger means free kicks and bookings for the simple reason the winger has far more pace.

Now this is basic stuff, any teacher running a schoolboy team knows this, most of the supporters on thursday knew before half time Dunne was going off because the winger was getting a free run at him everytime they got the ball.......................so why did the numpty we pay a great deal of money to, or his coaching staff not see, and act accordingly.

Stop blaming the players for Hughes, stop slagging the team off because Hughes has them playing a system that can not work, or put in players half fit because his judgement on players is so poor he can not make his mind up who in the reserves could step up.
 
blueonblue said:
Its already been pointed out that Dunnie has been our player of the year countless times, is a full international, and up untill we got stuck with the clueless one, part of one of the tightest defences in the premier along with Micha...........now both are under attack for following orders of a manager who does not know what he`s doing!.

Richards does not loiter up the pitch off his own bat, and I doubt he is stupid enough to think he can go back with a winger and keep up, never mind get a tackle in from the side.

Dunne is a centeral defender, strong and powerful in and around the box, what he is not is a right full back, and certainly not able to do both jobs at the same time, because when he gets dragged over to cover the missing right back the whole defence has to come across resulting in us being wide open for the far post ball, and a central defender up against a winger means free kicks and bookings for the simple reason the winger has far more pace.

Now this is basic stuff, any teacher running a schoolboy team knows this, most of the supporters on thursday knew before half time Dunne was going off because the winger was getting a free run at him everytime they got the ball.......................so why did the numpty we pay a great deal of money to, or his coaching staff not see, and act accordingly.

Stop blaming the players for Hughes, stop slagging the team off because Hughes has them playing a system that can not work, or put in players half fit because his judgement on players is so poor he can not make his mind up who in the reserves could step up.
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You shouldnt have to take a player off everytime he gets a yellow card you would need five subs a game.


Dunne is not a kid, it's hardly rocket science that if you have a yellow card you have to be careful and not take out an opponent in the most important game for ages, if we want to progress as a club we cant keep making excuses for players. He has made too many mistakes this year and cost us too many points. The fact that he has been player of the year is irrelevant, on form he and richards should be dropped. It doesnt mean the end of their career's at city.


And to blame the manager for richards getting forward and then not getting back is laughable, do you really believe the manager told him this?????


If you think a manager isnt good enough then fair play(bad signings, bad tactics, poor subs)
but you cannot blame him for basic individual errors of players who should know better. some of dunnes decision making this year have been embarrasing and the annoying thing is he doesnt seem to learn.
 
I`m sorry but blaming Hughes for Dunne`s mistakes is ridiculous.

From one of the Earliest matches of the season an error by Dunne cost us the match; FC Midgetland first leg; passed them the ball to score... He`s been that way since.
The one error you can throw at Hughes with regards to Dunne is not pressurising him enough with regards to getting a replacement; but if maost reports are to be belived Hughes did try and buy Toure from Arsenal.
At the moment I`m completely on the fence with regards to Hughes but I do fear for Dunne. Richards can be forgiven errors as he has youth on his side, but the countless times Dunne has cost us this season is unbelievable and belies not only his status as captain, but his experience also..

examples:

-FC Midjetland first leg
-Error against Spurs theat lead to their first goal
-Newcastle match (best volley ever own goal)
-Numerous sendings off
-Error in Fulham match

I know everyone makes errors but his are so costly its scary. That, coupled with the fact that he gets sent off so much just seem to me to make him a liability.
I want to remember Dunne as the player who he was a couple of seasons back, especially for the first half of the 07/08 season...NOT the player he has seemingly become.

it makes me wonder actually how our performances were for the 4 matches he was out after his pointless sending off against Wigan...anyone know?
 
Aussie! said:
exactly... sighs* captains should set an example and boost the morale of the team. Getting sent off has the inverse effect. He fouled once - He fouled twice yelllow card he fouled 3 times - ref said its been 3 times 1 more your off- he fouls again red card... How did we all here know he was gunna do somethin stupid and get carded.

End of the day- Dunne though player of the year quite a few times is not a player of our future aspirations. He aint quick enough, his too old and he aint gettting any younger. Mind you im not being irrational putting blame on Dunne as ive had this attitude of him for a long time over past posts
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So because suddenly the club has a lot of money, suddenly the captain and player of the year for countless seasons, means nothing?
He's having a bad season, it happens to everyone. That doesn't mean that we should ship every player who's having a bad run out the door because suddenly financially, we can.
What ever happened to loyalty? Doesn't that mean anything anymore. You know I get it, football has become more competitive and more money is needed but since when was it ok for football to be a business and for players despite years of loyalty and top class service to get treated like merchandise.
But suddenly what, because we have money now means that we loose our values, our pride? Because that's what it means, because one minute it's for the badge, for the jersey, then the next we're shipping players in and out like there's no tomorrow.
When did it happen that loyalty meant so little and club pride meant even less.

Now maybe I'm old fashioned, now maybe because my own sports are based purely on the amateur basis. But I'm sorry, I think somewhere along the line that actually remember what this is all about.

Dunne has shown us years of loyalty, he has done it for us time and time again, as our captain, and just because he's had a bad season doesn't mean that we should ship him out because suddenly our aspirations as a club are higher then they were last year.

We want players to show pride and passion for the jersey, for the badge, but surely it most work the other way. No one is more Man City then Dunne, no one. Selling him and replacing him with some over paid, over rated defender will be a mistake.
Give the lad a break, he's done nothing but years of truely great service and should be given a chance to get it back. We owe him that at least.
 
IrishMacca said:
Aussie! said:
exactly... sighs* captains should set an example and boost the morale of the team. Getting sent off has the inverse effect. He fouled once - He fouled twice yelllow card he fouled 3 times - ref said its been 3 times 1 more your off- he fouls again red card... How did we all here know he was gunna do somethin stupid and get carded.

End of the day- Dunne though player of the year quite a few times is not a player of our future aspirations. He aint quick enough, his too old and he aint gettting any younger. Mind you im not being irrational putting blame on Dunne as ive had this attitude of him for a long time over past posts
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So because suddenly the club has a lot of money, suddenly the captain and player of the year for countless seasons, means nothing?
He's having a bad season, it happens to everyone. That doesn't mean that we should ship every player who's having a bad run out the door because suddenly financially, we can.
What ever happened to loyalty? Doesn't that mean anything anymore. You know I get it, football has become more competitive and more money is needed but since when was it ok for football to be a business and for players despite years of loyalty and top class service to get treated like merchandise.
But suddenly what, because we have money now means that we loose our values, our pride? Because that's what it means, because one minute it's for the badge, for the jersey, then the next we're shipping players in and out like there's no tomorrow.
When did it happen that loyalty meant so little and club pride meant even less.

Now maybe I'm old fashioned, now maybe because my own sports are based purely on the amateur basis. But I'm sorry, I think somewhere along the line that actually remember what this is all about.

Dunne has shown us years of loyalty, he has done it for us time and time again, as our captain, and just because he's had a bad season doesn't mean that we should ship him out because suddenly our aspirations as a club are higher then they were last year.

We want players to show pride and passion for the jersey, for the badge, but surely it most work the other way. No one is more Man City then Dunne, no one. Selling him and replacing him with some over paid, over rated defender will be a mistake.
Give the lad a break, he's done nothing but years of truely great service and should be given a chance to get it back. We owe him that at least.
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Great post from your point of view..he has been a great servant. Thats part of the problem...we all have such high expectations of him. And in essence, we all feel really let down. To have an entire bad season is very unusual..players usually experience maybe a bad half a season, or a few months, but no-one can deny he`s pretty much been poor for a whole season.
What I do hope is that he does show the pride we all know he has, and come the end of season, does loads of speed, positional, and maybe training to try and be `calmer' at times, so that he can come back at the start of next season completely reborn like Ireland has done season.
 
Thats fine then so no matter how bad someone is playing just carry on playing them no matter what. Any club who does this would be mad, people like wenger and baconface are great at knowing when a player is past his best. We know that dunne has been a good servant for city but dont forget he has been rewarded well for this, it's the nature of proffesional sport that you are judged on performance and results. If he plays less or even if he is sold in ther summer he is hardly going to be sleeping rough under a brdige with a bottle of meths. If we want to become a winning team harsh decisions have to be made, players leave clubs all the time, i'm sure the owners didnt buy the club as a retirement home for loyal players.
 
Iv'e stuck up for Dunne all season, but now I think he's proven he's not good enough. He was a good player in a bad team and it now shows.

Also, Richards isn't as good as I first thought. His first touch is shocking and totally unacceptable IMO. Dont get me wrong, I think he ''can'' come good, but he's not there yet, not by a long shot.
 
Dunne was - WAS - a great servant to the club. But his day has come and gone. Time to move on, I'm afraid.
Richards is disappointing.
I'd love us to buy Glen Johnson.
 
Blue4ever85 said:
Iv'e stuck up for Dunne all season, but now I think he's proven he's not good enough. He was a good player in a bad team and it now shows.

Also, Richards isn't as good as I first thought. His first touch is shocking and totally unacceptable IMO. Dont get me wrong, I think he ''can'' come good, but he's not there yet, not by a long shot.
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Agree 100%
 
Richards is not playing today so what peoples excuse for Dunne being shit today ?
 
Funny how you keep missing the common denominator, a manager who tells the players how and where to play.

Its not Hughes fault that Richards is missing because he`s to far up the pitch?, what on earth makes you think a player could get away with being out of possition for so long without the manager pulling him up............unless its to orders?.

Dunne is just the latest target because of the tactic being played under orders from Hughes, Big Phil is slagged off because he`s not winning high balls.........but who tell the players to bang high ones in towards him?, put him in on the floor and he can hold it all day, I and most other supporters know that, but not Hughes.

Dunne is not just playing poorly, he`s being expossed by a mumpty manager without a clue.
 
hilts said:
Thats fine then so no matter how bad someone is playing just carry on playing them no matter what. Any club who does this would be mad, people like wenger and baconface are great at knowing when a player is past his best. We know that dunne has been a good servant for city but dont forget he has been rewarded well for this, it's the nature of proffesional sport that you are judged on performance and results. If he plays less or even if he is sold in ther summer he is hardly going to be sleeping rough under a brdige with a bottle of meths. If we want to become a winning team harsh decisions have to be made, players leave clubs all the time, i'm sure the owners didnt buy the club as a retirement home for loyal players.
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No, if a player is in bad form then don't play him. But there's no need to ship him out either. I just think that ye are jumping the gun, just because we have money doesn't mean we should have to sell.
 
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