stonerblue
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CitizenTID said:
Fantastic article on the subject here
http://www.theguardian.com/football...sociation-fa-england-under-20s-steven-gerrard
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Dyke's Proposals
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Fantastic article on the subject here
http://www.theguardian.com/football...sociation-fa-england-under-20s-steven-gerrard
Gordyola
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When regulations are put in place to solve a problem then inevitably the end result is the problem gets worse. Take the home grown rule that was designed to encourage development of players for the England team to end result is that clubs buy HG to fill out the squad and they end up getting little play time their values go up. Now Dyke's solution is to increase the number in a squad, what a twat
bluemanc1994
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The problem is with the lack of coaches we have in the game as a whole, from the Premier League down to Sunday league. The problem isn't young players aren't playing enough, look at the current England team - there are a lot of young players going to Brazil! They haven't fully developed yet still have at least another 8/9 years in them playing at the highest level. If young, English players are good enough to play in the Premier League, they will, look at Barkley, Shaw, Sterling etc.
As for the B teams, I don't see the point at all. It only serves to ruin the lower leagues. Promoted conference teams dreaming of playing in the Football League will get promoted to a league of Premier League teams. Potentially, a team finishing 7th in League 1 could be promoted to the Championship if 6 B teams finish above them. It will only increase the gap between the lower leagues and the Premier League. Then the changes to limits regarding non EU players is just laughable, English players learn from the best players in the world. Take these players away, we will just see the English players performing worse. But as long as they are getting playing time, everything's fine...........
As for the B teams, I don't see the point at all. It only serves to ruin the lower leagues. Promoted conference teams dreaming of playing in the Football League will get promoted to a league of Premier League teams. Potentially, a team finishing 7th in League 1 could be promoted to the Championship if 6 B teams finish above them. It will only increase the gap between the lower leagues and the Premier League. Then the changes to limits regarding non EU players is just laughable, English players learn from the best players in the world. Take these players away, we will just see the English players performing worse. But as long as they are getting playing time, everything's fine...........
Why Always Ste
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Lol my views on this are changing as the minutes go by.
I've played Football for many years as a kid. The biggest problem for me was Facilities and opportunities to play.
This problem is still there. just yesterday I saw Kids in Heywood playing football with each other on a fucking main road, right next to them is a school playing field (which I used to play footy on) but now has high rise metal fencing which you can't get on.
30mph road, bus's going past, hgv's and these kids are playing football on it (no joke)
For me I want a large chunk of Tv money directly back into grassroots football. and not just chucking money at it but direct coaching programs for free, teach people like me who've played the game how to coach the game, I'll go on a course right now but the cunts want £400 or something off me.
My driving instructor, told me he never played the game, doesn't like the game but recently learnt how to coach football because his son is interested in it. he's teaching large groups of kids how to play footy yet has never played himself.
Absolute joke, it's rotten. The cost to coach over here is a fucking joke. fuck FA and the Premier league.
I've played Football for many years as a kid. The biggest problem for me was Facilities and opportunities to play.
This problem is still there. just yesterday I saw Kids in Heywood playing football with each other on a fucking main road, right next to them is a school playing field (which I used to play footy on) but now has high rise metal fencing which you can't get on.
30mph road, bus's going past, hgv's and these kids are playing football on it (no joke)
For me I want a large chunk of Tv money directly back into grassroots football. and not just chucking money at it but direct coaching programs for free, teach people like me who've played the game how to coach the game, I'll go on a course right now but the cunts want £400 or something off me.
My driving instructor, told me he never played the game, doesn't like the game but recently learnt how to coach football because his son is interested in it. he's teaching large groups of kids how to play footy yet has never played himself.
Absolute joke, it's rotten. The cost to coach over here is a fucking joke. fuck FA and the Premier league.
Go to Holland and you find 4g pitches all over, with qualified coaches who have played the game themselves teaching kids to control and pass a football.
it would be better for kids to play in the summer months in better conditions also.
it would be better for kids to play in the summer months in better conditions also.
mac
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So there will be a new league 3 with 10 premier league teams and 10 conference teams.
Who will determine out of 20 prem teams who will go into this league.
As well what if said 10 prem teams where relegated over 4 years.
Who will determine out of 20 prem teams who will go into this league.
As well what if said 10 prem teams where relegated over 4 years.
nmc
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mac said:So there will be a new league 3 with 10 premier league teams and 10 conference teams.
Who will determine out of 20 prem teams who will go into this league.
As well what if said 10 prem teams where relegated over 4 years.
David Gill will oversee the process, collect the brown envelopes and hand out punishment as necessary.
Cobwebcat
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The rationale in England for introducing a quota system is ultimately to improve the prospects of the national team. At this point it is important to consider that this very argument was put forward in Bosman for justifying a quota system. The ECJ's reaction was that whilst removing the restrictions would inevitably curb the chances of a player to play at the top level in his home country, it would at the same time increase the opportunities available for that player in the other EU countries.
And it is this point that perhaps best explains the current dearth of talent in the English game. For while home grown players in the other top European leagues, namely in Spain, Italy, Germany and France, routinely move to play for clubs abroad, the number of English players doing likewise is remarkably low. Whether this is because of language issues or a psychological reason is not clear, but it is an important consideration. It might be argued that the recently announced FA Commission, in their task to improve the national team, would do better concentrating on long term measures, such as putting the correct structures in place, focusing on player development from an early age, and looking at ways to encourage players to seek opportunities abroad.
http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/item...footballers-calls-for-quota-system-in-england
A point Dyke has missed in his rush to talk to Rio and Danny Mills.
And it is this point that perhaps best explains the current dearth of talent in the English game. For while home grown players in the other top European leagues, namely in Spain, Italy, Germany and France, routinely move to play for clubs abroad, the number of English players doing likewise is remarkably low. Whether this is because of language issues or a psychological reason is not clear, but it is an important consideration. It might be argued that the recently announced FA Commission, in their task to improve the national team, would do better concentrating on long term measures, such as putting the correct structures in place, focusing on player development from an early age, and looking at ways to encourage players to seek opportunities abroad.
http://www.lawinsport.com/blog/item...footballers-calls-for-quota-system-in-england
A point Dyke has missed in his rush to talk to Rio and Danny Mills.
Bottomless_Sailor
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Bring back Bernstein.
Benarbia_is_god
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The B team proposal will not go ahead, their will be far too much opposition and if it does go ahead I will feel very disillusioned with the game in this country. We have the best league system in the world, no other country will you get thousands of people watching a 6th tier game, these football clubs are more than just football clubs they are part of the community. A City B team will be a plastic entity and I will not support them in the lower leagues, it will destroy football in this country!! If you are in favour of this proposal then ask yourself would you be in favour if City were back in Division two!
Secondly i have watch our development team and I think they are better than most league one teams so are the opposition. It just begs the question why would you have them play the likes of Crewe and Crawley on shit pitches at a lower quality of play? It makes no sense. If it ain't broke don't fix it, the FA are trying to decimate the lower leagues and it's a joke.
Secondly i have watch our development team and I think they are better than most league one teams so are the opposition. It just begs the question why would you have them play the likes of Crewe and Crawley on shit pitches at a lower quality of play? It makes no sense. If it ain't broke don't fix it, the FA are trying to decimate the lower leagues and it's a joke.