Dzeko (Merged)

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No17 said:
camelcoat said:
That mexican lad down the road seems to have settled in well enough. Has everything to do with desire.

That mexican lad plays in a team that gives him good service...even with the 100 year old scholes and 145 year old giggs, their midfield looks miles ahead of yours...that is not Dzeko's fault
Exactly
 
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No17 said:
Hare said:
It seems that City have had enough of Dzeko.
Awful, clumsy, awkward are only some of the attributes that were given to him. He lacks talent. Twenty-seven mil for a "giraffe on roller skates," and
rather misterious signing as he obviously doesn't fit the system.

So how about you City let go of him in summer? This way your team will be improved and Dzeko will have the opportunity to exhibit his repertoire of awkwardness someplace else.
If the money's problem, we in Bosnia will collect your 27 mil and throw a bonus of 2 mil if you keep Bosnian posters "balkano" and "No17."

Peaceful farewell and everyone's happy.

You know that No17 is not a City fan, actually I've been laughing my socks off watching them...so bugger off to the Highlands and start being realistic...

a ovo o sakupljanju miliona i gluposti, u Bosni se ne moze sakupit 10 000 da se neko ode na operaciju tako da i za to mozes prestat da seres...

Stvarno Hare koji si ti moron, i ja kad sam ovo procito reko sebi koji je ovo retardirani ljakse boze sto serenda naokolo...

That ironic undertune wont help Edin anyway, so stop fucking think he is the greatest. He has to change hes movement, that is something what everyone can see if he really want good for Dzeko.

Still, theres no service and the Club doesnt play constant football, its aint time to rate him.
 
Re: Dzeko

Paulmcfc2703 said:
He is a forward who needs service and quality crosses and we offer fuck all of these each game

Best post here so far. And spot on...

I'll be honest here. I'm Bosnian and since Dzeko started playing for City we pretty much watched every single game. Here's my opinion. For a team with quality players like that and for a team with that much money (sadly, that the main thing in modern football) City plays like crap. It looks like the team doesn't have a plan whatsoever, like Mancini picked up 11 guys from the street and sent them to play a match. And although those guys may be among the best in the world, with no proper tactics and discipline they will play like crap.

Dzeko is new guy in Premier league, he needs some time to adjust but he's a world class striker. But, even so, the guy is a target man. When I see him on the left side and not around the goal I always wander what the fuck is Mancini thinking. It looks like he gave a lot of money for a great player but doesn't know how to use him. And not only him but a lot of guys. And also, I don't think he has a lot of authority. Tevez does what he wants. He's a great player but when you have a player that's that much selfish the rest of the team has to be well arranged. This way, it looks like "give Tevez the ball, if he does something great, if not, well, that's it!". He had more than a few times the opportunity to pass the ball for a goal, instead he went for it himself where he wasn't in the ideal position. If he scores, great, but if he doesn't...

Since it's Dzeko I'm interested most, I see that he often goes out of the box to pick up the ball. That's not what he did in Wolfsburg or national team. He usually receives the ball in box and then finishes with goal. He has many talents but that's what Dzeko is, a target man.

I personally like Mancini but I don't think he's the manager for a team at this level. This team with Mourinho would play 30% better at least. This team has a problem in the middle, not in front. There are 11 individuals and strikers heavily depend on middle. You can't blame a striker for not scoring if he doesn't get useful balls.
 
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Even Buzzer thought he didnt contribute much,

"Disappointing last night but got to get right into Reading, can't underestimate them. Dzeko needs to do more"
 
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I know what bad forwards look like, or at least what a forward playing badly looks like. There's a guy named Ibišević on our national team and he's often next to useless. It's not just that he rarely scores goals, it's that he so often bundles clear opportunities, messes up good team play by trying too much with the ball at his feet, gets in the way of other players and literally prevents us from scoring goals, etc.

I've watched 90% of his games since the move and Džeko has never looked like a particularly bad player, just a very ineffectual one. Several of the other marquee players in the City squad look just as misplaced. Does a team that cost however many hundreds of millions of pounds to assemble really consist of a bunch of talentless flops? No, it's the system - you don't have one.

I'd like to think I'm pretty neutral when looking at the English game. I've followed City since Džeko joined, but I don't have any particularly strong feelings for any of the Premiership clubs. Well, except maybe for your immediate neighbors, who I hate, but that's besides the point.

My point is, as a more-or-less objective outsider, I'd say that at least three clubs - those neighbors, Arsenal and even Tottenham - are miles ahead of you in terms of coherence, strategy and teamwork. I haven't seen enough of Liverpool and Chelsea this year, but I still suspect that if things don't change quickly, City's top 4 spot is going to come down to the wire.

Watching City has become painful at times. Dzeko has become a popular punching bag, but what the fuck was that against Wigan just now? The way people talk on this forum you'd think that before Džeko arrived you were a notch below Barcelona or 90s Milan. Honestly, this team has some fundamental problems, presumably stemming from your manager and an inconsistent transfer policy. I'm by no means joining the sensationalist English media, which, I've noticed in the past month or two, has some serious issues with City; I don't see any problem with City's sudden immense wealth. Still, it's mind blowing that after so many years of such immense wealth you only have one single player capable of providing any creative flair; that you literally don't have a single player capable of sending in a cross from the right flank.

Basically, I think the real problem is not in the forwards, but in the midfield, where you have an awesome collection of tough, physical defensive midfielders who can win back the ball and defend, but then very little order when you go forward. Especially when it comes to playing with width, creative possession football and quick execution in the final third, you have a surprising lack of options. I'm not convinced Mancini has any real masterplan for molding the great group of individuals at his disposal into a coherent team, or perhaps even real authority over some of these players.

I think you need a creative-minded, mature and unselfish attacking midfielder/winger type asap. Beyond that, I would give Mancini until this summer, not just to qualify for Europe, but show a significant improvement in team play and football philosophy. If not, and if Mourinho is available, I think the opportunity would be far too good to pass up.
 
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Dzeko has been poor since he joined us. Some of this will be down to aclimatising to the style of play, and the pace of the Premiership. Some of this will be down to him sinply not finding any form at the moment, sometimes players hit patches where they underperform, Dzeko has hit one. However I think the main issue here is simply that the formation and tactics Mancini employs really doesn't suit Dzeko's natural style of play. He needs decent delivery into the box from out wide, he needs to be the central figure in the strike force, and he needs a partner that compliments his skill set. Tevez should really be that player, able to link up with Dzeko, able to drop deep to prevent Dzeko needing to do so, and able to provide Dzeko with chances in and around the box. Balotelli ISN'T the right player to pair Dzeko with, in fact I'm not sure who Balotelli IS the right player to pair with. He seems to be a very individual player, not one to form a partnership in the traditional sense.

To get the best from Dzeko he needs to start regularly, in the central position, be paired with Tevez, and have wide players actually cross the ball into the box. I can't see these things happening anytime soon so perhaps it's the right time to put Dzeko on the bench.
 
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Tevez or Balotelli couldn't score either

Dzeko is just an easy target for the brain dead morons on here because he is the newest signing. People like dw7 aren't true City fans and probally don't even go to the games.

Anyone could see although Dzeko's performance wasn't the best, at least he could string some passes together unlike his team mates.
 
Re: Dzeko

MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
Even Buzzer thought he didnt contribute much,

"Disappointing last night but got to get right into Reading, can't underestimate them. Dzeko needs to do more"

What a shite dig that was by buzzer.

Dzeko needs the team to do more... he shouldn't be picking up the ball on the half way line without any blue shirt within 20 yeards of him, yet because we sit so deep and play so slow, that's more often that not where he finds himself.
 
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dzeko isnt a bad player (thought i dont think he is as good as some make out either, his first touch aint that great and he is not as strong in the air as people make out either) but at the moment he clearly doesnt fit into the system we are using. His lack of pace for me is a worry as well

for me he needs to have wingers and we dont play that way and rarely have under RM even when he has had them available

and using kolorov in a wide role isnt helping the lack of service either..

for me our best strike pair are balo and tev. I think that dzeko will have to take a back seat (on the bench ) from now till the end of the season...in our present system he is completely ineffective and trying to shoehorn him into the side could well effect our chances of getting into the top 4
 
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I'm praying he comes good because like iv said before I'm a big dzeko fan but those saying he doesn't get service is nonsence. He's always pissing around on the wings when he should be stood in the middle of the park and not move. Balotelli and Tevez seem to be racking up the goals so why can't dzeko
 
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lack of pace lol

he's 6ft 4 and is much faster than anyone i know at that height<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:47 pm --<br /><br />tevez or balotelli didn't rack up the goals yesterday though did they?

dzeko has 4 goals, 5 if you count the one at OT

in how many starts? 8? 9?

put it in perspective
 
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And you don't think it's odd to watch a player playing one style, give that kind of money for him and then not use him because you don't play the style that you watched him play?

For me, it's very strange. I assumed they watched him play for Wolfsburg. If so, who in their right mind thought that it wouldn't be risky to give that much money to bring a guy if you don't plan to play that style of football. You had some other, safer and cheaper options. Dzeko is a killer if you put him in his natural position, expecting from him to change a league, change a team and change playing style and be a killer from a start is nonsense!

@Stillsy: You know for the fact that it's his choice to go out on the left? He played for years in the middle of the box, he comes here and things: "Why wouldn't I change something, let's try going for the ball, maybe I'll be even better!" ?

And you can't compare Dzeko and Tevez. Their playing style is completely different. You think it's common for a guy that size to take a ball and dribble his way in the box like Tevez does?!

And Mancini is certainly not doing anyone a favour with keeping him on the bench and playing him for 10 minutes in the league if he wants that guy to be at his best. I would understand it if the team has no other problems and other strikers score regularly but like this...
 
Re: Dzeko

amadeus21 said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
He is a forward who needs service and quality crosses and we offer fuck all of these each game

Best post here so far. And spot on...

I'll be honest here. I'm Bosnian and since Dzeko started playing for City we pretty much watched every single game. Here's my opinion. For a team with quality players like that and for a team with that much money (sadly, that the main thing in modern football) City plays like crap. It looks like the team doesn't have a plan whatsoever, like Mancini picked up 11 guys from the street and sent them to play a match. And although those guys may be among the best in the world, with no proper tactics and discipline they will play like crap.

Dzeko is new guy in Premier league, he needs some time to adjust but he's a world class striker. But, even so, the guy is a target man. When I see him on the left side and not around the goal I always wander what the fuck is Mancini thinking. It looks like he gave a lot of money for a great player but doesn't know how to use him. And not only him but a lot of guys. And also, I don't think he has a lot of authority. Tevez does what he wants. He's a great player but when you have a player that's that much selfish the rest of the team has to be well arranged. This way, it looks like "give Tevez the ball, if he does something great, if not, well, that's it!". He had more than a few times the opportunity to pass the ball for a goal, instead he went for it himself where he wasn't in the ideal position. If he scores, great, but if he doesn't...

Since it's Dzeko I'm interested most, I see that he often goes out of the box to pick up the ball. That's not what he did in Wolfsburg or national team. He usually receives the ball in box and then finishes with goal. He has many talents but that's what Dzeko is, a target man.

I personally like Mancini but I don't think he's the manager for a team at this level. This team with Mourinho would play 30% better at least. This team has a problem in the middle, not in front. There are 11 individuals and strikers heavily depend on middle. You can't blame a striker for not scoring if he doesn't get useful balls.

This is probably the best post regarding Dzeko in this thread. He scored for fun playing for Wolfsburg, now a load of lads on here will come up with the "but that league is different" bollocks but stop making excuses. We don't use him properly that is the problem. Seeing the goals Dzeko has scored he never gets in those positions for us.

I seriously think he has been bought on reputation and it's been assumed he'll just slot in and score for fun, football doesn't work like that unfortunately!!! He needs to be played to his strengths to score.
 
Re: Dzeko

balkanno said:
Hare said:
It seems that City have had enough of Dzeko.
Awful, clumsy, awkward are only some of the attributes that were given to him. He lacks talent. Twenty-seven mil for a "giraffe on roller skates," and
rather misterious signing as he obviously doesn't fit the system.

So how about you City let go of him in summer? This way your team will be improved and Dzeko will have the opportunity to exhibit his repertoire of awkwardness someplace else.
If the money's problem, we in Bosnia will collect your 27 mil and throw a bonus of 2 mil if you keep Bosnian posters "balkano" and "No17."

Peaceful farewell and everyone's happy.
Stvarno Hare koji si ti moron, i ja kad sam ovo procito reko sebi koji je ovo retardirani ljakse boze sto serenda naokolo...

That ironic undertune wont help Edin anyway, so stop fucking think he is the greatest. He has to change hes movement, that is something what everyone can see if he really want good for Dzeko.

Still, theres no service and the Club doesnt play constant football, its aint time to rate him.

E sad zamisli koja si ti ojebina kad se ovde vec 4 mjeseca uvlacis levatima u pakaš. Toliko si zaglibio da ti ni ronilačko odijelo ne moze više pomoč.

Džeko's movement is fine. This team's tactics and lack of team spirit is what's hampering him down. So kindly, let him go in summer. I'm tired of seeing him being misused by this plastic club. Fans don't like him anyway.
 
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BIG DONKEY said:
lack of pace lol

he's 6ft 4 and is much faster than anyone i know at that height

-- Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:47 pm --

tevez or balotelli didn't rack up the goals yesterday though did they?

dzeko has 4 goals, 5 if you count the one at OT

in how many starts? 8? 9?

put it in perspective
12 games. 4 goals. Not 5, that went in off Silva.

Dzeko is not good enough yet. Make as many excuses as you want, but at the moment, he's not good enough.
 
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I said starts

He's had 9 starts and scored 4 goals (5 if you count the one off Silvas back) - which is exceptional given he has had NO service what so ever

If you think he is going to score every game then you should go back to playing FIFA 11
 
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BIG DONKEY said:
I said starts

He's had 9 starts and scored 4 goals (5 if you count the one off Silvas back) - which is exceptional given he has had NO service what so ever

If you think he is going to score every game then you should go back to playing FIFA 11
But you can't count the one off Silva's back because it was going 20ft wide.

9 starts, 4 goals. The four goals coming against a Championship team, a League 1 team and the lowest ranked team left in the Europa League.

What do you mean 'no service'? He spends most of the time on the bloody wing fannying about with the ball.
 
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You can only play with whats put in front of you no? 4 goals 2 assists? in 9 starts? And you're moaning.

It's quite obvious what I mean by service, Wolfsburg midfield seems like Barcelona compared to this.

You clearly have an agenda, Tevez or Balo didn't score yesterday but as i said he's an easy target because he is the newest signing.

If he scored 20 goals so far people would still be moaning some how.

Would you be happy if he leaves in the summer to play for a real club without plastic fans..everyones happy then.
 

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