dzeko presser from 1.30

[BosnianDiamond]

Dzeko fan here. Just wanted to let you know how excited I am that Dzeko has joined Man City. Since last summer, I thought he would be a perfect fit not only for Premier league but more importantly Man City gives him the best chance to have immediate success.

If you think you've seen enough with Wolfsburg where he had very limited midfield support, wait until you see what he can do with the support of world class players to feed the monster. And as you can see, he is a very intelligent player, cool under pressure, and competitive.

In my opinion, he will be a tremendous success in the premier league whose style suits him perfectly. I am so glad he didn't go to the boring italian league although he grew up watching AC Milan during the Van Basten era, I am glad he realized that his destiny is in Man City.

An interesting fact. Like manchester, the city of Sarajevo has an old rivalry between FK Sarajevo (formed in 1945) and FK Zeljeznicar (formed in 1922). FK Sarajevo fans are more numerous (approx. 60%) but less passionate overall. They also support the hated RED colors. FK Zeljeznicar wear BLUE and have a somewhat smaller fan base (40%) but very passionate. Maybe i'm reading too much into it, but maybe Dzeko was meant to wear blue ;) Both clubs have tremendous history and success in former Yugoslavia and even played in the european league on several occasions.

I am a Zeljeznicar supporter and think it's funny that they sold what will be the greatest striker to come out of Bosnia in its history for only 50k euros. He still has a lot of work to do but we should sit back and enjoy the work of a living legend in the making. Maybe he will even eclipse the accomplishments of Sarajevo's Safet Susic who was probably the best ever until Dzeko came along. However, back then it was difficult for eastern european players to transfer and play in big international leagues especially in the 1970s and early 1980s.

Anyway, I can't wait for the first match against the Wolves. Like everyone else, the Dzeko signing has given me an excuse to follow Man City and want to see them succeed. I hope Mancini opts for the 4-4-2 formation with Dzeko and Tevez up front.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

How about the treatment of the Munich survivors who were injured or didn't go on to be stars-in particular Bobby Charltons comments to said survivors, despite him being wheeled out every February for your anual AIG sponsored grief fest?

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.munich58.co.uk/articles/wood1.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.munich58.co.uk/articles/wood1.asp</a>


United Treated Us Like Vermin

From the Daily Mail, August 14th 1998
For over forty years, Elizabeth Wood has lived a life that has been ripped apart by mental torment and tragedy. Even now as she sits in her modest ground floor flat in West London, she can still see in her mind the apocalypse that was the Munich Air Crash. She can hear the screams of the dying and the terribly injured.

It has eaten away at her good humour and the remarkable resilience, affecting her health so badly that she needs the support of a day to day carer. But it has also given her an awesome inner strength to seek justice for those she feels were betrayed.

Hers is a compelling need to bring Manchester United to its knees in supplication. She feels that the club has failed in its duty to the bereaved.

Elizabeth is the former wife of Ray Wood, the goalkeeper severely injured in the disaster. She is now divorced but for three and a half years she has campaigned tirelessly to prompt the club to raise money for the families whose lives were torn asunder.

You might think that next Tuesday will be her red letter day when she will witness the harvest of her labours, with United holding a testimonial at Old Trafford. Sadly, she does not see it that way.

For United are still prevaricating on whether to underwrite the expenses for the game, in which Eric Cantona plans to make a farewell appearance. So far the club are refusing to contribute to the costs of the two teams - possibly £50,000 - so the fund will have to meet the expenses from ground receipts received from what will be a sell-out attendance.

"We just want the club to give the game some dignity. Offer some recognition to those who died, who gave their lives for Manchester Unite and gave birth to a legend".

Although United have sent train tickets for here and her carer, as yet Elizabeth is unsure whether she will attend the match at Old Trafford. "It depends where they put me - in the Director's Box with all the other grandees, or somewhere else."

"But why shouldn't I go? I am every bit as good as them and if it wasn't for me getting involved, this game would never have got off the ground"

She has no axe to grind with Alex Ferguson and admires what he has done and what he stands for, however, she is perplexed that a national institution like United should be so reluctant to give financial assistance to the fallen heroes and their families.

It appears that so far United have agreed only to donate the match receipts plus profit from food and drink sold at the testimonial match.

Elizabeth adds "What the plc is doing is immoral, leaving us as just rubbish, simple vermin. And as for Eric Cantona, it was his decision to retire. Suddenly, the game has become the Eric Cantona roadshow, while the survivors are like dancing bears at a circus."

With her disability precluding her from any form of work, she finds herself overdrawn at the bank and being pressed for repayment. "I dropped a line to Martin Edwards, asking him if it was possible to have a couple of thousand pounds in advance (of the payout from the testimonial match) to meet my commitments but he said it was not club policy."

"It's not just me that has been affected. Other families have been torn apart, yet all these years and not a penny from United to ease the suffering. The club believe they have no financial or moral obligation for the Munich disaster. Everyone connected with the game receives enormous salaries, even complete strangers whose lives have not been damaged by Munich."

"I saw those terrible scenes in the hospital after the crash. I stayed at Ray's bedside for eight weeks and I was there when Duncan Edwards died. Ray would ask me every day who was the next to have died."

"The airline flew us out to Munich and gave us daily expenses. Even my local priest offered financial help - but there was nothing from United."

"United have handled things so badly that some of the survivors and their families want nothing to do with Tuesday's match. I'm not sure that Ray wants me at the match but I feel that I have every right to attend."

United were unavailable for comment.



SCUM

Funny how our grubby little pal from Salford has exited stage left since we mentioned the treatment of the less know Munich dead/survivors and their family....This lot are very easy to shoot once they are confronted with facts.....he's probably only just heard of the likes of Albert Scanlon.

 

[Bosnia]

Dzeko fan here. Just wanted to let you know how excited I am that Dzeko has joined Man City. Since last summer, I thought he would be a perfect fit not only for Premier league but more importantly Man City gives him the best chance to have immediate success.

If you think you've seen enough with Wolfsburg where he had very limited midfield support, wait until you see what he can do with the support of world class players to feed the monster. And as you can see, he is a very intelligent player, cool under pressure, and competitive.

In my opinion, he will be a tremendous success in the premier league whose style suits him perfectly. I am so glad he didn't go to the boring italian league although he grew up watching AC Milan during the Van Basten era, I am glad he realized that his destiny is in Man City.

An interesting fact. Like manchester, the city of Sarajevo has an old rivalry between FK Sarajevo (formed in 1945) and FK Zeljeznicar (formed in 1922). FK Sarajevo fans are more numerous (approx. 60%) but less passionate overall. They also support the hated RED colors. FK Zeljeznicar wear BLUE and have a somewhat smaller fan base (40%) but very passionate. Maybe i'm reading too much into it, but maybe Dzeko was meant to wear blue ;) Both clubs have tremendous history and success in former Yugoslavia and even played in the european league on several occasions.

I am a Zeljeznicar supporter and think it's funny that they sold what will be the greatest striker to come out of Bosnia in its history for only 50k euros. He still has a lot of work to do but we should sit back and enjoy the work of a living legend in the making. Maybe he will even eclipse the accomplishments of Sarajevo's Safet Susic who was probably the best ever until Dzeko came along. However, back then it was difficult for eastern european players to transfer and play in big international leagues especially in the 1970s and early 1980s.

Anyway, I can't wait for the first match against the Wolves. Like everyone else, the Dzeko signing has given me an excuse to follow Man City and want to see them succeed. I hope Mancini opts for the 4-4-2 formation with Dzeko and Tevez up front.

SMALL CORRECTION
An interesting fact. Like manchester, the city of Sarajevo has an old rivalry between FK Sarajevo (formed in 1945) and FK Zeljeznicar (formed in 1921). FK Sarajevo fans are more numerous (approx. 50%) but less passionate overall. They also support the hated RED colors. FK Zeljeznicar wear BLUE and have a somewhat smaller fan base (50%) but very passionate. Maybe i'm reading too much into it, but maybe Dzeko was meant to wear blue ;) Both clubs have tremendous history and success in former Yugoslavia and even played in the european league on several occasions.

 

[salfordRed99]

How long have you got?

Milking the Munich air disaster for commercial gain is the one I can think of straight away.

Kicking the families of the victims out of club owned houses.

AIG advertised on the memorial.

We can go on all day, if you want?

Looks like they're fucking celebrating it!

I initially said it is shameful for city fans to mock our wartime achievements. Its at the very least misguided.

You're now referencing decisions made by directors and holding them against us. Man Utd is the fans in my eyes. U cant call us scum for decisions made by businessman who had their own interests at heart.

With regard to munich, I dont now a lot about how the families were compensated. Iv just had a search on the web without finding anything relevant. If theres any info out there id be interested to read it so feel free to link it up.

You should take in to account that 1950s Britain didnt have the kind of compensation culture we have now. I imagine emotional and economic wounds were still healing from the war, so I doubt the victims families fealt they had been mistreated at the time and I doubt they expected or wanted any special treatment.

What are you expectin me to say about this matter. Every utd fan in the country would want these people looked after until the day they die, but we dont make the decisions and the world doesnt work like that. Ill question past or present decision makers when I see some actual evidence (which i dont deny may exist, if it does let me see it). How much as been done by the fans to help the victims of munich? I do not know, but Im sure plenty of funds have been raised over the years.

The daily mail article I can give no credence. Purely for the fact I give no newspaper articles of that nature credence. 'united treated us like vermin' is that a quote from Mrs Wood? Was her disability Munich related? Is the article implying Utd should compensate her for her disability even if it wasnt related to the crash? Was she refusing to go to Old Trafford unless she can sit in the directors box? Whats Cantona done wrong?

To use that article as evidence to call united scum is naive. I mean no disrespect to Mrs Wood, Im merely questioning your sources of information.

AIG on the banner was a disgrace. Any fan worth is salt would agree. The AIG logo was defaced by Utd fans to show our disapproval.

The pricks in the t-shirts need filling in.

I dont understand where City fans get this idea that anything associated with United is genuinely evil. If its the badge that scares you all, Im pretty sure the devil crest is just a design. I doubt it as any real symbolic meaning.

I posted on this thread to talk about fan base but certain city fans turn to the same old stories to start shouting scum scum. get a grip

im sure some of you have stories about savage rag bullies who beat up disabled children.

 

[MMA]

Well done Edin.
Worth every penny so far.
Now do what you do best on the 12th of feb and upset trafford fc again.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

How long have you got?

Milking the Munich air disaster for commercial gain is the one I can think of straight away.

Kicking the families of the victims out of club owned houses.

AIG advertised on the memorial.

We can go on all day, if you want?

Looks like they're fucking celebrating it!

I initially said it is shameful for city fans to mock our wartime achievements. Its at the very least misguided.

You're now referencing decisions made by directors and holding them against us. Man Utd is the fans in my eyes. U cant call us scum for decisions made by businessman who had their own interests at heart.

With regard to munich, I dont now a lot about how the families were compensated. Iv just had a search on the web without finding anything relevant. If theres any info out there id be interested to read it so feel free to link it up.

You should take in to account that 1950s Britain didnt have the kind of compensation culture we have now. I imagine emotional and economic wounds were still healing from the war, so I doubt the victims families fealt they had been mistreated at the time and I doubt they expected or wanted any special treatment.

What are you expectin me to say about this matter. Every utd fan in the country would want these people looked after until the day they die, but we dont make the decisions and the world doesnt work like that. Ill question past or present decision makers when I see some actual evidence (which i dont deny may exist, if it does let me see it). How much as been done by the fans to help the victims of munich? I do not know, but Im sure plenty of funds have been raised over the years.

The daily mail article I can give no credence. Purely for the fact I give no newspaper articles of that nature credence. 'united treated us like vermin' is that a quote from Mrs Wood? Was her disability Munich related? Is the article implying Utd should compensate her for her disability even if it wasnt related to the crash? Was she refusing to go to Old Trafford unless she can sit in the directors box? Whats Cantona done wrong?

To use that article as evidence to call united scum is naive. I mean no disrespect to Mrs Wood, Im merely questioning your sources of information.

AIG on the banner was a disgrace. Any fan worth is salt would agree. The AIG logo was defaced by Utd fans to show our disapproval.

The pricks in the t-shirts need filling in.

I dont understand where City fans get this idea that anything associated with United is genuinely evil. If its the badge that scares you all, Im pretty sure the devil crest is just a design. I doubt it as any real symbolic meaning.

I posted on this thread to talk about fan base but certain city fans turn to the same old stories to start shouting scum scum. get a grip

im sure some of you have stories about savage rag bullies who beat up disabled children.

just the same old hollow horseshit, if the fans really cared they'd have done their bit decades ago.

Little sheep following the money and the glory and trying to ignore what they did to get there.

 

[Breadsnapper]

How long have you got?

Milking the Munich air disaster for commercial gain is the one I can think of straight away.

Kicking the families of the victims out of club owned houses.

AIG advertised on the memorial.

We can go on all day, if you want?

Looks like they're fucking celebrating it!

I initially said it is shameful for city fans to mock our wartime achievements. Its at the very least misguided.

You're now referencing decisions made by directors and holding them against us. Man Utd is the fans in my eyes. U cant call us scum for decisions made by businessman who had their own interests at heart.

With regard to munich, I dont now a lot about how the families were compensated. Iv just had a search on the web without finding anything relevant. If theres any info out there id be interested to read it so feel free to link it up.

You should take in to account that 1950s Britain didnt have the kind of compensation culture we have now. I imagine emotional and economic wounds were still healing from the war, so I doubt the victims families fealt they had been mistreated at the time and I doubt they expected or wanted any special treatment.

What are you expectin me to say about this matter. Every utd fan in the country would want these people looked after until the day they die, but we dont make the decisions and the world doesnt work like that. Ill question past or present decision makers when I see some actual evidence (which i dont deny may exist, if it does let me see it). How much as been done by the fans to help the victims of munich? I do not know, but Im sure plenty of funds have been raised over the years.

The daily mail article I can give no credence. Purely for the fact I give no newspaper articles of that nature credence. 'united treated us like vermin' is that a quote from Mrs Wood? Was her disability Munich related? Is the article implying Utd should compensate her for her disability even if it wasnt related to the crash? Was she refusing to go to Old Trafford unless she can sit in the directors box? Whats Cantona done wrong?

To use that article as evidence to call united scum is naive. I mean no disrespect to Mrs Wood, Im merely questioning your sources of information.

AIG on the banner was a disgrace. Any fan worth is salt would agree. The AIG logo was defaced by Utd fans to show our disapproval.

The pricks in the t-shirts need filling in.

I dont understand where City fans get this idea that anything associated with United is genuinely evil. If its the badge that scares you all, Im pretty sure the devil crest is just a design. I doubt it as any real symbolic meaning.

I posted on this thread to talk about fan base but certain city fans turn to the same old stories to start shouting scum scum. get a grip

im sure some of you have stories about savage rag bullies who beat up disabled children.

A bit like saying "I was just following orders"
I am not as eloquent as some of the posters on here and really find it hard to contain my loathing for you and your shower of shit club. You can roll a turd in glitter but it's still a turd. So do me a favour fuck off and shut the door behind you.

 

[inbetween]

Just seen a few bits on the SkySports website, can't wait to see this lad play. Already firing up the rivalry with United, he definitely knows what we are all about looks raring to get started. Roll on a hat trick on saturday.

 

[oakiecokie]

See what ypu`ve started Edin !!! PMSL

I know theres some nobs out there but please keep beating that drum Edin,as you`re upestting the natives in Trafford.

Edin Dzeko has been in Manchester for all of two minutes before speaking to the press about the lie City fans spread, that Manchester is blue.

So desperate are City to get some leverage on United, they hound their new signings with their nonsense.

“I have heard a lot about the fans and that most of the people from Manchester are Manchester City fans,” he said.

Nobody ever claims that everyone from Merseyside is an Everton fan or that everyone from the Midlands is a West Brom fan, yet bizarrely, the word that City fans are so keen to put out is that ‘proper Mancs’ are blues.

Facts
- Manchester United have had higher attendances than Manchester City since 1947
Did we have glory fans from Surrey in the 40’s? Did all those Mancunian reds decide to shun United over the years and choose City as the team to pass down through the generations? Does that logically make any sense?

- Manchester United have had far more success than Manchester City
United have fans from all over the country and all over the world. Is it logical to believe that fans from the actual city would not support United too? More successful teams who play more entertaining football attract more fans, simple as that. Mancunians are attracted to success and attractive football as much as anyone outside of Manchester, which is why the reds have attracted so many fans over the years, both in and out of Manchester. We’ve had the Busby Babes in the 50s, we were the first English team to win the European Cup in the 60s, having three European Player of the Year winners in the side and we’ve had the Sir Alex years.

- “The council house is never full”
Manchester City’s stadium has been on average 13% empty (roughly 6,200 seats) this season. When City played Juventus in the Europa League, 12,614 tickets went unsold, despite them being sold for £10 (£5 for under-16s). For the Salzburg game, there were 10,274 empty seats, despite them selling tickets for £5 (£1 for under-16s). If Manchester is full of City fans, why don’t they go to watch the games?

- Stockport is blue
According to the Manchester season ticket report, conducted in 2001, the most popular postcode for City season ticket holders was SK8. In that same report, it was revealed that 7,808 season ticket holders at Old Trafford were from Manchester, compared to the 6,678 at Maine Road. City had a higher proportion of their season tickets going to Mancs but then they don’t have the competition with the rest of the country for seats. Having lots of fans outside of Manchester doesn’t negate the fact we have lots of fans in Manchester.

Manchester is red.

Soft bastards !!

 

[kbb]

Re: See what ypu`ve started Edin !!! PMSL

where's that blue and red shaded postcode map when you need it?