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[SWP's back]

It's there to be knocked down, do it or shut up.

I don't know how to break this down in any simpler form for you.

If you make a claim, and an outlandish claim at that, it is up to you to provide a link or source or any evidence of any kind to back that up, otherwise it's just bullshit.

As an example I spent last night enjoying a threesome with Megan Fox and the doly bird off Countdown.

Prove I didnt.

I don't care, nor do I suspect there is evidence to prove it one way or another.

There is plenty of evidence of out of control bonuses, rampant executive pay, failed executives awarding themselves golden handshakes and share holder revolts over executive pay.

I don't have to prove the sun rises in the morning by the same token I don't have to prove the existence of excessive executive remuneration, it's for you to disprove it.

It is called refutation, your opponent makes a point (me) and you refute it, if you don't, it stands.

That is why when the Tories make a point, Labour refutes it, if they don't or the refutation is weak, then the Tory statement stands.

Then to make a claim that it's true is just bullshit.

And to your notion about not proving the sun rises in the morning, well no. But that's because it is freely available to be seen. But the reason why it rises and the theory of heliocentricity was proven, using evidence by Copernicus. You see, as I stated, that's the way it works.

But I suspect, judging by your last two paragraphs that you're just a fucking idiot.

 

[blueinsa]

Labour killed itself and ended any form of socialism in this country. They have completely lost Scotland and imo, will never be in a position to form a majority government again as things stand.

Rather than directing all their anger at the Tories, traditional labour voters of which im one needs to be asking real questions about the state of our own party and the direction it has took.

Sorry but your comments are far too sensible for the lunatics posting on this thread.

I'm hardly the world's biggest expert but for me, politics in this country has changed irrevocably over the past 20-25 years or so. We now live in an age of increasing voter apathy and blurred lines between the main parties. I don't believe there is such thing as a traditional Labour or traditional Conservative party these days - many will see that as a bad thing and to an extent I'd agree but what this also does for me is make it easier to show impartiality because they both have their good and bad points, as do the Lib Dems.

Career politicians who vote to further their own careers, rather than represent their constituents and even swap sides these days if it means a better job for themselves.

Politics in this country is dead. You get the exact same no matter how you vote.

 

[mcfc1632]

Labour killed itself and ended any form of socialism in this country. They have completely lost Scotland and imo, will never be in a position to form a majority government again as things stand.

Rather than directing all their anger at the Tories, traditional labour voters of which im one needs to be asking real questions about the state of our own party and the direction it has took.

That is without doubt the most sensible point I have heard made on this forum, on TV, or anywhere else for some time.

I come from a deep-rooted Labour background and my natural inclination would be to vote Labour - but not the party that it has morphed into.

Some self-serving fuckers that hi-jacked the party for their own purposes have a lot to answer for - to an awful lot of people.

 

[Bill]

Let's face it the election, the economy and in fact anything to do with who gets in and who doesn't has nothing to do with the idle or the cadgers. Shouldn't be allowed a vote as they contribute the total sum of fuck all to society in any way.
They are just takers.takers that shouldn't care where of who throws money at them as long as it continues.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You slept with a rag???

In all conscience, he cannot be rebuked for that particular act.

Agreed.

It doesn't get much better than that, mate.

 

[BlueHammer85]

In all conscience, he cannot be rebuked for that particular act.

Agreed.

It doesn't get much better than that, mate.

'Adoresgem' would be a higher score

 

[Damocles]

Agreed.

It doesn't get much better than that, mate.

'Adoresgem' would be a higher score

True. The only real problem I could see with that is that adoresgem isn't actually a word.

 

[worsleyweb]

It doesn't get much better than that, mate.

'Adoresgem' would be a higher score

True. The only real problem I could see with that is that adoresgem isn't actually a word.

orgasm ed

 

[BlueHammer85]

It doesn't get much better than that, mate.

'Adoresgem' would be a higher score

True. The only real problem I could see with that is that adoresgem isn't actually a word.

Behave , Next you'll be telling us Pluto isnt a planet

 

[Rascal]

Even the relatively stupid British electorate have realized the Socialist Governments may sound good but they don't actually work in the real world. Every country that has tried has failed. .

Yes the 1945-51 Socialist government was such a failure the first Tory to try to break from the social concensus was Thatcher in 79.

You talk bollox lad, complete bollox.

There's not been a socialist government since '79. Neigh on two generations.

Think it may be you talking bollocks.

No one wants socialism.

I have warned you about the sun affecting your bonce.

I know there has not been a Socialist govt since 1979, i was pointing out there had been very succesful Socialist governments in the past.

Lots want Socialism, most of friends are Socialist, but we recognise we will not get a Socialist government because the leaders of our party have moved to the right and disenfranchised its former supporters. Me and my friends are crying out for a proper Socialist Labour party which in my opinion would do much better than the 1/3 of the vote the Labour party are currently polling. So to see nobody wants Socialism is just sheer stupidity on your behalf. A trait i have noticed is on the increase my friend ;)