Eden Hazard (continued)

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tolmie's hairdoo said:
richards30 said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
United are already £450m plus in debt, another £30m won't rock the boat, albeit, coupled with wages, fees etc, you can maybe double or triple it.

United have this uncanny knack of getting top dollar for average players.

Last year, they created wiggle in the wages due to the retirements of Van der Sar and Neville.

Berbatov is one of the highest-paid players at the club and if he is sold between now and June 4th, I think we might have our answer where they can possibly generate the wages from.

They have already clawed back Owen's wages, although they have new deals for Giggs, Scholes, Welbeck.

United still have a cash flow and seaon ticket money to come in.

Much as i admire our stance, this is one of the few times when City need to blow every **** out of the water, wipe our eye.

Regardless of what we are paying him, even if we have got him to bend, he will still be earning £200a week according to all 'informed' reports.
i agrre mate! we`re looking for the next world superstars that can stay and grow together for years to come then we just have to grab hazard!! we`ll surely be shedding a huge amount of the wage bill this summer so i think we have to flex the money muscles and get hazard!



It would be a huge mistake to not break further hearts and underline our new status as champions of England.

We are on the same page.

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LongsightM13 said:
Bizarre that United didn't sell Berbatov last year, when they could have got £10m or so for him. Kept him for a year, barely played him, paid him another 12 months salary, saw him get a year older and nearer the end of his contract so his asset value has dropped to buttons. They will be lucky to get £5m for him now. Could possibly see him return to Spurs if we tell them to take a hike over Ade

I guess he didn't want to go. He earns good money and the way Taggart treated him in CL final probably made him to do some personal revenge with staying and collecting his wages.

They executed the one more year option trying to bring some selling potential and not lose him for free.
 
The last three pages of this thread demonstrate exactly why fans shouldn't own the club. I'm pretty sure that Tolm has been possessed by the ghost of Peter Swales.

"United want him? Bid a million more than them"
 
Damocles said:
adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
United are already £450m plus in debt, another £30m won't rock the boat, albeit, coupled with wages, fees etc, you can maybe double or triple it.

United have this uncanny knack of getting top dollar for average players.

Last year, they created wiggle in the wages due to the retirements of Van der Sar and Neville.

Berbatov is one of the highest-paid players at the club and if he is sold between now and June 4th, I think we might have our answer where they can possibly generate the wages from.

They have already clawed back Owen's wages, although they have new deals for Giggs, Scholes, Welbeck.

United still have a cash flow and seaon ticket money to come in.

Much as i admire our stance, this is one of the few times when City need to blow every **** out of the water, wipe our eye.

Regardless of what we are paying him, even if we have got him to bend, he will still be earning £200a week according to all 'informed' reports.

Exactly. This is the time we need to be hammering home our advantage. Much as we're hopeful and confident we may not even be Champions next year, and we all know the shite will find the money for him if they see it as the only victory they can get this summer. It gets the fans back on board, flexes the muscles, new confidence in the current players that they're challenging for top signings. We need to be kicking them whilst they're down. Not just reasserting our superiority signing Hazard but chasing them all over the fucking market making sure they pay top top dollar for anyone they even show a fleeting interest in.

No, no, no. This is the worst thing that we can do.

He's 21, let's say he signs a 5 year deal at 200k. What happens in 3 years when he's up for renewal? Pay him 250k? 300k?

What message does bringing in a 21 year old on 200k send to Silva and Kompany?

Giving him 200k will cost us 500k in parity wages. We're all getting a bit desperate here. Our squad has just won the championship, they are now a year older, a year more settled. We don't need to throw away our wage structure for a kid that isn't a superstar yet.

^^^This. I thought the days of just throwing money at it were at an end due to our rise in stature? I realise agents will think they can screw us over, but we should now be at a stage where we can attract a player, but still pay comparative wages to the other clubs that are in for him. If him and his agent want silly money or they go elsewhere for the same that we are offering, then i'd be more worried that we haven't got the right people who are brokering these deals.
 
Damocles said:
The last three pages of this thread demonstrate exactly why fans shouldn't own the club. I'm pretty sure that Tolm has been possessed by the ghost of Peter Swales.

"United want him? Bid a million more than them"

He worth every penny.
 
Damocles said:
adrianr said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
United are already £450m plus in debt, another £30m won't rock the boat, albeit, coupled with wages, fees etc, you can maybe double or triple it.

United have this uncanny knack of getting top dollar for average players.

Last year, they created wiggle in the wages due to the retirements of Van der Sar and Neville.

Berbatov is one of the highest-paid players at the club and if he is sold between now and June 4th, I think we might have our answer where they can possibly generate the wages from.

They have already clawed back Owen's wages, although they have new deals for Giggs, Scholes, Welbeck.

United still have a cash flow and seaon ticket money to come in.

Much as i admire our stance, this is one of the few times when City need to blow every **** out of the water, wipe our eye.

Regardless of what we are paying him, even if we have got him to bend, he will still be earning £200a week according to all 'informed' reports.

Exactly. This is the time we need to be hammering home our advantage. Much as we're hopeful and confident we may not even be Champions next year, and we all know the shite will find the money for him if they see it as the only victory they can get this summer. It gets the fans back on board, flexes the muscles, new confidence in the current players that they're challenging for top signings. We need to be kicking them whilst they're down. Not just reasserting our superiority signing Hazard but chasing them all over the fucking market making sure they pay top top dollar for anyone they even show a fleeting interest in.

No, no, no. This is the worst thing that we can do.

He's 21, let's say he signs a 5 year deal at 200k. What happens in 3 years when he's up for renewal? Pay him 250k? 300k?

What message does bringing in a 21 year old on 200k send to Silva and Kompany?

Giving him 200k will cost us 500k in parity wages. We're all getting a bit desperate here. Our squad has just won the championship, they are now a year older, a year more settled. We don't need to throw away our wage structure for a kid that isn't a superstar yet.


This

-He's not worth 200k
-we don't need him that bad
- Rags aren't going to collapse just because we get Hazard
 
Tevez City said:
Damocles said:
The last three pages of this thread demonstrate exactly why fans shouldn't own the club. I'm pretty sure that Tolm has been possessed by the ghost of Peter Swales.

"United want him? Bid a million more than them"

He worth every penny.

He's not worth an extra 1,000,000 a week in wages which he will cost in parity wages within the squad and to new transfer targets.

If Hazard gets 200k a week, why can't RVP demand 300k? Kompany 350k?

Shit, if I was Balos agent, I'd immediately be on the phone for at least parity. He's the same age and has achieved more in his career.

With FFP looming, we do not have the money to spunk. We're champions and have a young, world class squad and manager. If this isn't enough for him then so be it.
 
Totally agree with Damocles on this one, in any case we are run by astute business men, I'm more than happy with any decision they make.
As and aside, we are a championship winning squad, we will get better purely because of the added experience and stature that comes with that regardless of who ends up here.
 
So now his agent says he has agreed terms with ALL 3 CLUBS and is waiting for Hazard's choice-

Eden Hazard will delay making a decision on his future until after Belgium's friendly against England at Wembley next week, but his agent claims that he has agreed terms with Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

Hazard revealed last week he would be playing in Manchester next season, although he did not disclose whether that would be in red or blue, but has subsequently admitted his interest in Chelsea following their Champions League win on Saturday.

Hazard's agent, John Bico, says terms have been agreed with all three Premier League clubs, and it is just a matter of the 21-year-old deciding which club to join.

"We are no longer in the negotiations stage," Bico was quoted as saying the the Daily Telegraph. "We have reached agreement with all parties. There will be no higher bid.

"Eden has already said he wants it to be fixed before June 2. He will decide after [Belgium's] games against Montenegro and England, then go on holiday with peace of mind.

"Eden is in the reflections stage and a decision will be taken quickly. Those who have come forward have a one-in-three chance."

ESPNSoccernet
 
Damocles said:
Tevez City said:
Damocles said:
The last three pages of this thread demonstrate exactly why fans shouldn't own the club. I'm pretty sure that Tolm has been possessed by the ghost of Peter Swales.

"United want him? Bid a million more than them"

He worth every penny.

He's not worth an extra 1,000,000 a week in wages which he will cost in parity wages within the squad and to new transfer targets.

If Hazard gets 200k a week, why can't RVP demand 300k? Kompany 350k?

Shit, if I was Balos agent, I'd immediately be on the phone for at least parity. He's the same age and has achieved more in his career.

With FFP looming, we do not have the money to spunk. We're champions and have a young, world class squad and manager. If this isn't enough for him then so be it.

No, he hasn't.
 
Jonathan1979 said:
Damocles said:
Tevez City said:
He worth every penny.

He's not worth an extra 1,000,000 a week in wages which he will cost in parity wages within the squad and to new transfer targets.

If Hazard gets 200k a week, why can't RVP demand 300k? Kompany 350k?

Shit, if I was Balos agent, I'd immediately be on the phone for at least parity. He's the same age and has achieved more in his career.

With FFP looming, we do not have the money to spunk. We're champions and have a young, world class squad and manager. If this isn't enough for him then so be it.

No, he hasn't.

3 Serie A titles,1 Coppa Italia, 1 Supercoppa Italiana,1 UCL,FA Cup, Premier League, Golden Boy award
 
Jonathan1979 said:
Damocles said:
Tevez City said:
He worth every penny.

He's not worth an extra 1,000,000 a week in wages which he will cost in parity wages within the squad and to new transfer targets.

If Hazard gets 200k a week, why can't RVP demand 300k? Kompany 350k?

Shit, if I was Balos agent, I'd immediately be on the phone for at least parity. He's the same age and has achieved more in his career.

With FFP looming, we do not have the money to spunk. We're champions and have a young, world class squad and manager. If this isn't enough for him then so be it.

No, he hasn't.
Yes he has.
 
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