Eden Hazard (continued)

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MCC said:
If he tweets, "It`s a fucking barm", it`s in the bag.

Ha ha ha.

Just seen he's tweeted; 'mines a pint o boddies to go with me snails' ..............so that's it then.
 
mcfc2607 said:
MCC said:
If he tweets, "It`s a fucking barm", it`s in the bag.

on the other had if he said muffin he can do one.
Sorry, but you're location has been bugging me since the first time I noticed it, can you please fix it lol (remove the O)
 
Hkibou said:
sjk2008 said:
Hkibou said:
I never denied that Mario has won more titles than Hazard. And i'm not in love with Hazard.

In fact i even wanted to level up the debate, and make it more general than just about Balotelli/Hazard.
My question is, is the palmares the only way to say who has proven more ?
IMO, it is not, there are many other parameters that have to be taken under consideration. Some of them i exposed here to show that, according to a certain point of view, one can say that hazard has proven more than Balotelli.

For example, who would you say has proven more between RVP and Balotelli ?
If you just check their palmares, the answer is Balotelli ...

Listen sunshine. It's not just about individual awards you're right. However, taking into account the ages of the two players, the clubs they have both played for and the level of competition they have both competed, it's still clear to everybody (bar said individual's #1 fan) that Balotelli has achieved more.

Hazard has only played professional football in the French League. He has 1 French League winners medal.
Balotelli has played in Serie A & the English Premiership where he has 4 League winners medals and a Champions League winners medal.
Balotelli has also won the FIFA Golden Boy Award.

Also, the English Premier League is of a higher standard than the French League. Serie A is also of a higher standard than the French League.

Now, whilst Hazard may carry Lille in a lot of matches, that is because Lille aren't Inter Milan or Manchester City and Lille aren't in Serie A or the Premier League.

We accept you have a little infactuation with the lovely little Belgian fella and I would love to see him in the Premier League whether he's with City, United or Chelsea, however, don't let your love of him tamper with an honest assessment. Otherwise, you will just be made to look a little foolish, which, incidentally seems to be happening already.


Listen dawn.
You may have your opinion and i may have mine. For me, Hazard has been in situations that Balotelli never esperienced, situations that i deem necessary to forge a man. Maybe that's why Balotelly seems so immature at times, i don't know.

And frankly i don't care if he won the golden thing. As i said, awards and palmares are, TO ME, less important than what the guy had to get through in his career.

I'd like to recall that at the beginning the word that started the debate is to have "proven" more, not "achieved".
And one can prove a lot of things.
For me, Hazard has proven that he's physically able to play a whole season with a high level consistancy. He has also proven that he can pull up a team all by himself and make the whole team play better.
He has also proven that he is always at the service of the team, never putting himself in the lights, and that his mentality is unquestionable.

As for your argument of the weakness french League, it's imo irrelevant.
Because for starters the difference between City and the average PL level is far greater than between Lille and the average L1 level.
So yeah, maybe PL is harder, but when you have Silva, Aguero, Tevez, Touré at your sides it doesn't seem that scary anymore...
And also, the gap between L1 and other leagues didn't seem to bother Nasri, Ben Arfa, Ronaldinho, Cabaye, Saha ... and many others. Nor the weakness of Eredevisie bothered Suarez.


As for looking foolish, think what you want to think i really don't care. Maybe i can seem foolish but it's not that easy to debate alone against a whole forum in a foreign language ^^

I agree with you.

So far Hazard has produced a more consistantly high standard of football than Balotelli. Both have fantastic potential but Hazard has produced more of it. Balotelli himself only gives himself a 'pass' grade for this season & said he was 'shit' last season.

Hazard has been exceptional.
 
ANY1aBLUE said:
MCC said:
If he tweets, "It`s a fucking barm", it`s in the bag.

Ha ha ha.

Just seen he's tweeted; 'mines a pint o boddies to go with me snails' ..............so that's it then.


Well that's Chelsea out then cos' he'd have tweeted "bleedin 'ell make mine a pint a Pride to ga with me snails darlin"
 
Never seen this lad play, except on youtube, but his pedigree is certainly interesting and we could do with a winger. He doesn`t look like the out and out speed merchant that will beat a man and whip in a ball - Spurs seem to love those players. He looks more skillful, tricky and someone that could play in numerous positions. Right up our street. Push the boat out please,City. He would fit right in to our style of play.
 
Jonathan1979 said:
Armaan said:
Jonathan1979 said:
No, he hasn't.
Balo's won 3 Seria A Titles 1 Premier league Title and the friggin champions league at the age of 21.... Pfffft

Sorry, I was talking about personal accomplishments.

Balotelli:

Individual
Golden Boy Award (1): 2010
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2011


Hazard:

Individual
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,[182] March 2011[183], March 2012
Bravo Award (1): 2011[14]

I'm Pretty sure Balo's 1 Golden Boy Award shits all over every single individual award Hazard has won???
 
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Jonathan1979 said:
Armaan said:
Balo's won 3 Seria A Titles 1 Premier league Title and the friggin champions league at the age of 21.... Pfffft

Sorry, I was talking about personal accomplishments.

Balotelli:

Individual
Golden Boy Award (1): 2010
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2011


Hazard:

Individual
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,[182] March 2011[183], March 2012
Bravo Award (1): 2011[14]

I'm Pretty sure Balo's 1 Golden Boy Award shits all over every single individual award Hazard has won???


Hazard was second behind Gotze last year ...
 
Hkibou said:
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
Jonathan1979 said:
Sorry, I was talking about personal accomplishments.

Balotelli:

Individual
Golden Boy Award (1): 2010
FA Cup Final Man of the Match: 2011


Hazard:

Individual
UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year (2): 2008–09, 2009–10
UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year (3): 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12
UNFP Player of the Month (3): March 2010,[182] March 2011[183], March 2012
Bravo Award (1): 2011[14]

I'm Pretty sure Balo's 1 Golden Boy Award shits all over every single individual award Hazard has won???


Hazard was second behind Gotze last year ...
 
Another "ITK" chimes in, this one a BBC guy who probably heard it from the Irish fool from MOTD2.

Andrew Lindsay BBC ‏@LindsayBBC
Cannot fully verify source but being told Eden Hazard has chosen Manchester United and will "sign on or by Monday". #mufc #hazard #bbc

I mean if Hazard has really decided and negotiations between clubs are over, there would simply be no need to say he hasn't decided yet.
 
LoveCity said:
Another "ITK" chimes in, this one a BBC guy who probably heard it from the Irish fool from MOTD2.

Andrew Lindsay BBC ‏@LindsayBBC
Cannot fully verify source but being told Eden Hazard has chosen Manchester United and will "sign on or by Monday". #mufc #hazard #bbc

I mean if Hazard has really decided and negotiations between clubs are over, there would simply be no need to say he hasn't decided yet.

If we loose him to the rags then fair enough. Next target.
 
pudge said:
Hkibou said:
Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot said:
I'm Pretty sure Balo's 1 Golden Boy Award shits all over every single individual award Hazard has won???


Hazard was second behind Gotze last year ...


And yet, Balotelli was still under 21. How do you explain this ?


And we'll see who wins it this time ;)
 
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