Eden Hazard

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BillyShears said:
I think Spurs are going to be more worried about finding the right manager this summer, certainly before they go splashing tens of millions on one player.

I think if they finish 3rd they can draw any available manager not named Mourinho.
 
It wasn't that long ago that Hazard was whoring himself to PSG as he wanted to play for Ancelotti.

I can only assume that none of the top European clubs have made any moves for him.

Good player but has a lot to prove at the top level to show that he is worth as much as c€30m.
 
Manc in London said:
It wasn't that long ago that Hazard was whoring himself to PSG as he wanted to play for Ancelotti.

I can only assume that none of the top European clubs have made any moves for him.

Good player but has a lot to prove at the top level to show that he is worth as much as c€30m.

It's not about that judging by his interview.

He has seen his mate Lukaku heralded as a future world class player toddle off to Chelsea for what is most likely huge wages, and he's been scratching his arse on the bench if that doing jack all.

He'll have seen a player of such quality as Nasri come to you, and essentially be a squad player.

He seems to have a fondness for English football, he wouldn't like to be a bit part player at either yourselves or Chelsea, Utd don't have that kind of funds unless they sell Nani or Valencia, Arsenal are in decline and Liverpool spent 80m on Carroll "Hendo" Downing and Adam. Which leaves.....?<br /><br />-- Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:03 am --<br /><br />
BillyShears said:
I think Spurs are going to be more worried about finding the right manager this summer, certainly before they go splashing tens of millions on one player.

Don't think you'll find a manager complaining about coming to a club that has bought Hazard in, maybe Hazard is a gift for Harry to make him stay?
 
Andouble said:
spurspinter1 said:
Andouble said:
I'd lose Lennon or VDV in a heart beat to get Hazard.

speaking of Hoilett, has he done anything of note in recent times? Was all the rage first half of the season but haven't heard much about him even when Blackburn have been picking up points.

I'm confused, are you a Spurs fan or an interested onlooker?

Hoilett looked good in patches against Arsenal, but to be honest, in that team looking good at all is a fucking miracle. He's just so calm, wherever he goes will have got themselves a bargain as long as his agent doesn't hold any decent club to ransom.

I was talking about if I were in your position as a Spurs supporter.

Lennon is a good pacey winger but his position can be upgraded. VDV to me rarely shows up in big games and is completely useless if he's not playing right behind the striker so he completely hamstrings (no pun intended) your tactics if you want to try something different.

ah I see.

Lennon alongside BAE is a player that in my opinion is generally under-rated by opposition fans, although obviously the flip side opinion would be that Lennon and BAE are over-rated by Spurs fans.

His defensive work is terrific and bar injuries this season I'm struggling to name a right winger in the PL that has done better, Valencia for sure but I can't think of another.

VDV is an interesting one, arguably his best games have been the big ones particularly against Arsenal...Always rushed back to fitness and always struggles as a result. Issue is even if you tell him to play right off the striker he'll always drift back to pick the ball of the centre backs and it can get congested with a major lack of activity in the oppositions box...
 
spurspinter1 said:
He has seen his mate Lukaku heralded as a future world class player toddle off to Chelsea for what is most likely huge wages, and he's been scratching his arse on the bench if that doing jack all.
Future being the operative word. The fact that he's a walking mountain makes people forget that he's still a teenager. We all expected him to be loaned on his first season but the club registration rules prevented it.

As for Hazard, I doubt it for the same reason as I doubt Mourinho going there. Money. If you pay the wages he'll no doubt want, how are you going to justify that to Modric, Bale, VDV, Adebayor (if he stays) and the rest of them? The house of cards comes tumbling down. Add on the 30m transfer fee being touted and it looks an unlikely proposition.
 
Castiel said:
spurspinter1 said:
He has seen his mate Lukaku heralded as a future world class player toddle off to Chelsea for what is most likely huge wages, and he's been scratching his arse on the bench if that doing jack all.
Future being the operative word. The fact that he's a walking mountain makes people forget that he's still a teenager. We all expected him to be loaned on his first season but the club registration rules prevented it.

As for Hazard, I doubt it for the same reason as I doubt Mourinho going there. Money. If you pay the wages he'll no doubt want, how are you going to justify that to Modric, Bale, VDV, Adebayor (if he stays) and the rest of them? The house of cards comes tumbling down. Add on the 30m transfer fee being touted and it looks an unlikely proposition.

I can't seem to find the article but there were concrete quotes with Lukaku saying he did not want to join Chelsea if he was just going to be loaned out. This was before he joined. I think he was reassured he would get more time than he has done and must be a bit disgruntled with the whole thing, and I believe this is the kind of frustration that other players would be wary of ie Hazard

I've got nothing against you, you're a good poster but if what I've just written is correct (I may be way off the mark, I realise that) then it does make me slightly happy, stockpiling all the upcoming talent not with any intention of playing them just to stop rivals getting them is frustrating.

Wage wise with Hazard personal terms have been agreed according to him, so I guess it can't be too much of a stumbling block, and we wouldn't be wasting time negotiating if there wasn't a chance of agreeing a fee. He doesn't seem to be about the money, he knows that Chelsea and City could pay him crazy wages but he also knows commanding a first team place will be unlikely and as a result he will be less satisfied, he seems to like English football, and my above description of the English team's situation sums up why a move to Spurs isn't such a crazy one.
 
spurspinter1 said:
I can't seem to find the article but there were concrete quotes with Lukaku saying he did not want to join Chelsea if he was just going to be loaned out. This was before he joined. I think he was reassured he would get more time than he has done and must be a bit disgruntled with the whole thing, and I believe this is the kind of frustration that other players would be wary of ie Hazard

I've got nothing against you, you're a good poster but if what I've just written is correct (I may be way off the mark, I realise that) then it does make me slightly happy, stockpiling all the upcoming talent not with any intention of playing them just to stop rivals getting them is frustrating.

I can understand the frustration with that. I don't remember Lukaku saying that but it would make sense considering where he is. Fact is if he wants to start, he has to outperform Fernando Torres (and I could probably do that) and Drogba in training. If he had his heart set on coming in at 19 and starting for a CL club he set his sights a little too high. That said his brief cameos have looked really good so far, but he needs to work on his technique. Miles off Drogba yet.

spurspinter1 said:
Wage wise with Hazard personal terms have been agreed according to him, so I guess it can't be too much of a stumbling block, and we wouldn't be wasting time negotiating if there wasn't a chance of agreeing a fee. He doesn't seem to be about the money, he knows that Chelsea and City could pay him crazy wages but he also knows commanding a first team place will be unlikely and as a result he will be less satisfied, he seems to like English football, and my above description of the English team's situation sums up why a move to Spurs isn't such a crazy one.
He said the same thing about us not a month ago. We have a whole interview of him saying it somewhere on our forums. Before that he said the same about Arsenal and before then it was Real Madrid with Zidane's shout out to him. I would be really surprised if he agreed to fit into Spurs' wage structure with clubs like that, with the financial clout, all out to get him.

By the way, you're right about City's massive rotation, but at Chelsea he'd be competing with Malouda. Mata should be in the middle and our lack of a left winger has stuck him out there. But I'm personally hoping for somebody faster and more direct than Hazard. I'd rather Gotze or even Willian because we're STILL missing a player like that after five years post Robben.
 
Castiel said:
spurspinter1 said:
I can't seem to find the article but there were concrete quotes with Lukaku saying he did not want to join Chelsea if he was just going to be loaned out. This was before he joined. I think he was reassured he would get more time than he has done and must be a bit disgruntled with the whole thing, and I believe this is the kind of frustration that other players would be wary of ie Hazard

I've got nothing against you, you're a good poster but if what I've just written is correct (I may be way off the mark, I realise that) then it does make me slightly happy, stockpiling all the upcoming talent not with any intention of playing them just to stop rivals getting them is frustrating.

I can understand the frustration with that. I don't remember Lukaku saying that but it would make sense considering where he is. Fact is if he wants to start, he has to outperform Fernando Torres (and I could probably do that) and Drogba in training. If he had his heart set on coming in at 19 and starting for a CL club he set his sights a little too high. That said his brief cameos have looked really good so far, but he needs to work on his technique. Miles off Drogba yet.

spurspinter1 said:
Wage wise with Hazard personal terms have been agreed according to him, so I guess it can't be too much of a stumbling block, and we wouldn't be wasting time negotiating if there wasn't a chance of agreeing a fee. He doesn't seem to be about the money, he knows that Chelsea and City could pay him crazy wages but he also knows commanding a first team place will be unlikely and as a result he will be less satisfied, he seems to like English football, and my above description of the English team's situation sums up why a move to Spurs isn't such a crazy one.
He said the same thing about us not a month ago. We have a whole interview of him saying it somewhere on our forums. Before that he said the same about Arsenal and before then it was Real Madrid with Zidane's shout out to him. I would be really surprised if he agreed to fit into Spurs' wage structure with clubs like that, with the financial clout, all out to get him.

By the way, you're right about City's massive rotation, but at Chelsea he'd be competing with Malouda. Mata should be in the middle and our lack of a left winger has stuck him out there. But I'm personally hoping for somebody faster and more direct than Hazard. I'd rather Gotze or even Willian because we're STILL missing a player like that after five years post Robben.
But Goetze is much much slower than Hazzard.
 
Dax777 said:
But Goetze is much much slower than Hazzard.
I made a bit of a mess of that sentence. I meant to say I'd rather Gotze, or even Willian specifically because of his speed and directness. I just think Gotze is a better prospect than Hazard who is riding the hype at the moment.
 
How can Spurs pay 30 Million for Hazard when they don't have 15 Million for Ade ?

Are they going to blow Chelsea out of the water ?
 
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