Edin Dzeko (continued)

[Anonymous]

This Dzeko thread just rehashes the same arguments from both sides of the debate. The bottom line here is that Dzeko has found himself as City's third choice striker, and this has happened based upon his own deficiencies as a footballer. No manager is going to, without reason, disgard a player in favour of another one. The reason for Aguero and Negredo to have so many more starts is because they have both been playing well in the main, and have been outperforming Dzeko. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Dzeko, once Aguero is fit again, will be back to number 3 striking option. He'll not be leaving in January as he'll be needed as the season progresses. He'll probably be allowed to go in the summer, when we can have much longer (months rather than weeks) to find a suitable replacement. Until then we all just need to accept that he'll play, although not all the time, and that his displays will frustrate those who don't rate him, and be lauded by those who do rate him.

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season. Dzeko had achieved this year THIS:
PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT

PLAYER OF THE MATCH ( AC MILAN )

MAN OF THE MATCH ( Newcastle - 1 game )

And score great goal against Cardiff City ( 2 game ). First goal of the game.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x140d81_edin-dzeko-goal-vs-cardiff-city-25-8-2013-1080-hd_sport" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x140d8 ... 0-hd_sport</a>

After all that. You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes, and that kind of managers support.

 

[Matty]

This Dzeko thread just rehashes the same arguments from both sides of the debate. The bottom line here is that Dzeko has found himself as City's third choice striker, and this has happened based upon his own deficiencies as a footballer. No manager is going to, without reason, disgard a player in favour of another one. The reason for Aguero and Negredo to have so many more starts is because they have both been playing well in the main, and have been outperforming Dzeko. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Dzeko, once Aguero is fit again, will be back to number 3 striking option. He'll not be leaving in January as he'll be needed as the season progresses. He'll probably be allowed to go in the summer, when we can have much longer (months rather than weeks) to find a suitable replacement. Until then we all just need to accept that he'll play, although not all the time, and that his displays will frustrate those who don't rate him, and be lauded by those who do rate him.

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season.

You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes.

You're saying "of course Negredo looks a better player, he's been given 450 extra minutes". That's ignoring the fact he's been given the extra 45o minutes BECAUSE he looks the better player. The minutes are as a result of looking better, not the cause of him looking better.

 

[aguero93:20]

This Dzeko thread just rehashes the same arguments from both sides of the debate. The bottom line here is that Dzeko has found himself as City's third choice striker, and this has happened based upon his own deficiencies as a footballer. No manager is going to, without reason, disgard a player in favour of another one. The reason for Aguero and Negredo to have so many more starts is because they have both been playing well in the main, and have been outperforming Dzeko. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Dzeko, once Aguero is fit again, will be back to number 3 striking option. He'll not be leaving in January as he'll be needed as the season progresses. He'll probably be allowed to go in the summer, when we can have much longer (months rather than weeks) to find a suitable replacement. Until then we all just need to accept that he'll play, although not all the time, and that his displays will frustrate those who don't rate him, and be lauded by those who do rate him.

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season. Dzeko had achieved this year THIS:
PLAYER OF THE TOURNAMENT

PLAYER OF THE MATCH ( AC MILAN )

MAN OF THE MATCH ( Newcastle - 1 game )

And score great goal against Cardiff City ( 2 game ). First goal of the game.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x140d81_edin-dzeko-goal-vs-cardiff-city-25-8-2013-1080-hd_sport" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x140d8 ... 0-hd_sport</a>

After all that. You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes.

You're saying "of course Negredo looks a better player, he's been given 450 extra minutes". That's ignoring the fact he's been given the extra 45o minutes BECAUSE he looks the better player. The minutes are as a result of looking better, not the cause of him looking better.

come on matty I'm giving up here, 8/10 away matches with only aguero up front in one of the 2 and mp isn't playing him enough in away games? deluded enough to be a spurs fan if you ask me.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

So the new argument is because Dzeko won to pre season man of the match awards and a man of the match award in first game of season he should play?

 

[aguero93:20]

So the new argument is because Dzeko won to pre season man of the match awards and a man of the match award in first game of season he should play?

he hasn't played in enough aways apparently, only 14/16 in all comps. and every thing he does wrong should be blamed on pellegrini due to this.

 

[Anonymous]

This Dzeko thread just rehashes the same arguments from both sides of the debate. The bottom line here is that Dzeko has found himself as City's third choice striker, and this has happened based upon his own deficiencies as a footballer. No manager is going to, without reason, disgard a player in favour of another one. The reason for Aguero and Negredo to have so many more starts is because they have both been playing well in the main, and have been outperforming Dzeko. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Dzeko, once Aguero is fit again, will be back to number 3 striking option. He'll not be leaving in January as he'll be needed as the season progresses. He'll probably be allowed to go in the summer, when we can have much longer (months rather than weeks) to find a suitable replacement. Until then we all just need to accept that he'll play, although not all the time, and that his displays will frustrate those who don't rate him, and be lauded by those who do rate him.

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season.

You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes.

You're saying "of course Negredo looks a better player, he's been given 450 extra minutes". That's ignoring the fact he's been given the extra 45o minutes BECAUSE he looks the better player. The minutes are as a result of looking better, not the cause of him looking better.

After such a great performances in pre season and first two games. Dzeko should be given more than just scraps. It could be like that you are saying. It also could be that threat of Dzeko and Pantilimon were just used to get out the most of Negredo and Hart. Pellegrini knew from the start that Dzeko/Pantilimon would be benched after first big mistake. For Negredo/Hart to be benched. There needed to be much more than few mistakes. It is called pre-preference. Me and you can only speculate on that. Which version mine, yours is right. But doing things mine, Mancinis and many other managers way City would gain three infrom strikers ( Aguero,Negredo , Dzeko with 10 + PL goals each ) firing on all cylinders. Which was exact thing which won Mancini a league ( even not having world class DM as Fernandinho is ). Pellegrini now have 1,5 inform strikers. Aguero and Negredo ( who need 550 min + to score a PL AWAY goal ). As for Dzeko, it is huge risk that he will underperform for the rest of the season. And there is big posibility that he will be gone in January or Summer. Dzeko could of stay for 18 monthes at least in other scenarios and be vital part of City which he was. And what was always my wish.

 

[aguero93:20]

It was just too soon. Or too obvious to bench Dzeko after just bad 45 min in third Hull game. After all Dzeko was proven and best Citys PL scorer ( 14 goals ) last season.

You should not benched that kind of player. And give him scraps in next 15 games. Is not HARSH as many would say. I would use much worse word. Again i would not have any problem if both ( Dzeko,Negredo ) was given 10 PL games each. And Better one played in second half of the season more games. Negredo was given 450 extra PL minutes. It was obvious that he would score more and looked better ( player ) with that extra minutes.

You're saying "of course Negredo looks a better player, he's been given 450 extra minutes". That's ignoring the fact he's been given the extra 45o minutes BECAUSE he looks the better player. The minutes are as a result of looking better, not the cause of him looking better.

After such a great performances in pre season and first two games. Dzeko should be given more than just scraps. It could be like that you are saying. It also could be that threat of Dzeko and Pantilimon were just used to get out the most of Negredo and Hart. Pellegrini knew from the start that Dzeko/Pantilimon would be benched after first big mistake. For Negredo/Hart to be benched. There needed to be much more than few mistakes. It is called pre-preference. Me and you can only speculate on that. Which version mine, yours is right. But doing things mine, Mancinis and many other managers way City would gain three infrom strikers ( Aguero,Negredo , Dzeko with 10 + PL goals each ) firing on all cylinders. Which was exact thing which won Mancini a league ( even not having world class DM as Fernardinho is ). Pellegrini now have 1,5 inform strikers. Aguero and Negredo ( who need 550 min + to score a PL AWAY goal ). As for Dzeko, it is huge risk that he will underperform for the rest of the season. And there is big posibility that he will be gone in January or Summer. Dzeko could of stay for 18 monthes at least in other scenarios and be vital part of City which he was. And what was always my wish.

someone should make you sit down and read everything you've posted. I was at the Cardiff game, obviously unlike you. he was shit, apart from one long range shot. since he hits about 1 of those a season, I think that can safely be listed under 'fluke'. give it up baka, the only thing you're achieving here is pissing city fans off and turning them against your precious hero.

 

[JasminBosnia]

Debate here also starts when i.e. "Pro-edin brigade" member post something like "He was really close to be MOTM, just needed a goal". He immediately get bashed here by the same dozen of posters and mods who think Edin is shit regardless of his performance.

Nobody abuse the other poster if he post the same or similar message in another thread.

I imagine if I post "edin is donkey" I could expect personal attack from hater battalion :D. Funny.<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:16 pm --<br /><br />And Edin is number 1 striker in the club at the moment, other strikers are injured or performing very poor.

 

[Anonymous]

someone should make you sit down and read everything you've posted. I was at the Cardiff game, obviously unlike you. he was shit, apart from one long range shot. since he hits about 1 of those a season, I think that can safely be listed under 'fluke'. give it up baka, the only thing you're achieving here is pissing city fans off and turning them against your precious hero.

1 per season really. Her you go one more in few games he had played THIS season. This goal is with is WEAKER FOOT. Now show me one Negredos goal with his right foot of that quality in his entire career. I does not exist and never will. Again it does not mean that Negredo is not better player than Dzeko for this system. Negredos pass against Fullham is something Dzeko can not do for instance.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=man-Yk91Er8[/youtube]

 

[aguero93:20]

Debate here also starts when i.e. "Pro-edin brigade" member post something like "He was really close to be MOTM, just needed a goal". He immediately get bashed here by the same dozen of posters and mods who think Edin is shit regardless of his performance.

Nobody abuse the other poster if he post the same or similar message in another thread.

I imagine if I post "edin is donkey" I could expect personal attack from hater battalion :D. Funny.

-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:16 pm --

And Edin is number 1 striker in the club at the moment, other strikers are injured or performing very poor.

even with aguero and jovetic injured, negredo has more goals in last 6 games than dzeko and more assists, yaya is form striker at the club. dzeko 3rd.