Edin Dzeko (continued)

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aguero93:20 said:
were talking about pl, don't change the subject, so you think dzeko isn't starting enough away pl games, but as you've just pointed out, he's started something like 8/10 away games this season.

Dzeko had started 8 PL games , 720 min ( all together with subs appearances )
Negredo had started 14 PL games, 1173 min ( all together with subs appearances )

The problem is. And You and I and probably all others knows it. That if Aguero was fit. Last two games Fullham, Swansea. Dzeko would not play. And especially now when Aguero come back after January. Manager will play just Aguero and Negredo. Or just one of them. At the end of the season Negredo will have around 30 PL games as starter. And Dzeko 10-12. Ten days from now, Dzeko will play only cup games. Nobody is stupid, especially not the players.
I still think if Dzeko and Negredo were rotated form the start in more equal way in PL. It would be better for the team ( City would be allready first ) and especially for players ( mostly Dzeko ). I just dont se him left out in 4,5 PL games again. And than he will come in last 20 min and score a winner.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
aguero93:20 said:
were talking about pl, don't change the subject, so you think dzeko isn't starting enough away pl games, but as you've just pointed out, he's started something like 8/10 away games this season.

Dzeko had started 8 PL games , 720 min ( all together with subs appearances )
Negredo had started 14 PL games, 1173 min ( all together with subs appearances )

The problem is. And You and I and probably all others knows it. That if Aguero was fit. Last two games Fullham, Swansea. Dzeko would not play. And especially now when Aguero come back after January. Manager will play just Aguero and Negredo. Or just one of them. At the end of the season Negredo will have around 30 PL games as starter. And Dzeko 10-12. Ten days from now, Dzeko will play only cup games. Nobody is stupid, especially not the players.
I still think if Dzeko and Negredo were rotated form the start in more equal way in PL. It would be better for the team ( City would be allready first ) and especially for players ( mostly Dzeko ). I just dont se him left out in 4,5 PL games again. And than he will come in last 20 min and score a winner.
by your logic, aguero must have been injured all season for dzeko to have started vs southampton west brom Cardiff Aston villa etc etc.
dzeko will start games if he merits it, exactly the same as everybody else, including kun. what exactly makes you think a. you know better than mp and b. you're mystic meg when it comes to future team selections?
 
aguero93:20 said:
by your logic, aguero must have been injured all season for dzeko to have started vs southampton west brom Cardiff Aston villa etc etc.
dzeko will start games if he merits it, exactly the same as everybody else, including kun. what exactly makes you think a. you know better than mp and b. you're mystic meg when it comes to future team selections?

Because I know one thing. 90 % of managers try more formations, players in the first half of the season. In the second half they play with best they have. It would be Aguero with Negredo or just one of them in second half of the season. This is one more reason why Dzeko should of be given proper chance to impress/or not in first half of the season. Give each Negredo / Dzeko 10 PL games and than play the better one in second half of the season. Would be the proper way. Not to give one ( Negredo ) 450 min more of PL in the first half of the season. By doing so. You have made easier for one of those two to impress. And for me it was one of not many Pellegrinis errors this year.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
aguero93:20 said:
by your logic, aguero must have been injured all season for dzeko to have started vs southampton west brom Cardiff Aston villa etc etc.
dzeko will start games if he merits it, exactly the same as everybody else, including kun. what exactly makes you think a. you know better than mp and b. you're mystic meg when it comes to future team selections?

Because I know one thing. 90 % of managers try more formations, players in the first half of the season. In the second half they play with best they have. It would be Aguero with Negredo or just one of them in second half. This is one more reason why Dzeko should of be given proper chance to impress/or not in first half of the season. Give each Negredo / Dzeko 10 PL games and than play the better one in second half. Not to give one ( Negredo ) 450 min more of PL in the first half of the season. By doing so. You have made easier for one of those two to impress. And for me it was one of not many Pellegrinis errors this year.
Two managers now think dzeko is shit give over already
 
Proelia said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
aguero93:20 said:
Two managers now think dzeko is shit give over already

Negredo. Under Mancini. Having to fight with Aguero, TEVEZ and Balotelli for his spot. Would be third/fourth striker. Who would scored less than Dzeko have scored in his limited time. Negredo would NEVER be in front of Tevez. And Balotelli would be given his game time, one way or another.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:

Negredo. Under Mancini. Having to fight with Aguero, TEVEZ and Balotelli for his spot. Would be third/fourth striker. Who would scored less than Dzeko have scored in his limited time. Negredo would NEVER be in front of Tevez. And Balotelli would be given his game time, one way or another.
Negredo is a far better player then balotelli , i even rate dzeko higher then him
 
Proelia said:
Baka Sliskovic said:

Negredo. Under Mancini. Having to fight with Aguero, TEVEZ and Balotelli for his spot. Would be third/fourth striker. Who would scored less than Dzeko have scored in his limited time. Negredo would NEVER be in front of Tevez. And Balotelli would be given his game time, one way or another.
Negredo is a far better player then balotelli , i even rate dzeko higher then him

But he is not better than Tevez. And Mancini would give Balotelli some PL time. Even if he played badly. Dzeko have had best min/goal ratio. So it would be very hard for Negredo to score more than Dzeko had. Negredo would be third striker at best, under Mancini.
Also Mancini have said many times that Dzeko is one of the best strikers in world, and still does. So I dont think he thought Dzeko was shit after all.
 
Baka Sliskovic said:
Proelia said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
Negredo. Under Mancini. Having to fight with Aguero, TEVEZ and Balotelli for his spot. Would be third/fourth striker. Who would scored less than Dzeko have scored in his limited time. Negredo would NEVER be in front of Tevez. And Balotelli would be given his game time, one way or another.
Negredo is a far better player then balotelli , i even rate dzeko higher then him

But he is not better than Tevez. And Mancini would give Balotelli some PL time. Even if he played badly. Dzeko have had best min/goal ratio. So it would be very hard for Negredo to score more than Dzeko had. Negredo would be third striker at best, under Mancini.
Also Mancini have said many times that Dzeko is one of the best strikers in world, and still does. So I dont think he thought Dzeko was shit after all.
have you asked bobby about this?<br /><br />-- Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 pm --<br /><br />besides your point about managers experimenting in the first half of the season is utter bollocks, there's more squad rotation in the 2nd half as injuries suspension and fatigue mount up. btw negredo got more mins as he is the better striker.
 
This Dzeko thread just rehashes the same arguments from both sides of the debate. The bottom line here is that Dzeko has found himself as City's third choice striker, and this has happened based upon his own deficiencies as a footballer. No manager is going to, without reason, disgard a player in favour of another one. The reason for Aguero and Negredo to have so many more starts is because they have both been playing well in the main, and have been outperforming Dzeko. It's not a hard concept to grasp. Dzeko, once Aguero is fit again, will be back to number 3 striking option. He'll not be leaving in January as he'll be needed as the season progresses. He'll probably be allowed to go in the summer, when we can have much longer (months rather than weeks) to find a suitable replacement. Until then we all just need to accept that he'll play, although not all the time, and that his displays will frustrate those who don't rate him, and be lauded by those who do rate him.
 
Proelia said:
Baka Sliskovic said:
aguero93:20 said:
by your logic, aguero must have been injured all season for dzeko to have started vs southampton west brom Cardiff Aston villa etc etc.
dzeko will start games if he merits it, exactly the same as everybody else, including kun. what exactly makes you think a. you know better than mp and b. you're mystic meg when it comes to future team selections?

Because I know one thing. 90 % of managers try more formations, players in the first half of the season. In the second half they play with best they have. It would be Aguero with Negredo or just one of them in second half. This is one more reason why Dzeko should of be given proper chance to impress/or not in first half of the season. Give each Negredo / Dzeko 10 PL games and than play the better one in second half. Not to give one ( Negredo ) 450 min more of PL in the first half of the season. By doing so. You have made easier for one of those two to impress. And for me it was one of not many Pellegrinis errors this year.
Two managers now think dzeko is shit give over already

And 1 season ticket holder.
 
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