Edin Dzeko (continued)

[Chi-town blues]

In fairness to Negredo he's struggling to adapt to the league- and deserves time to adapt.

But Dzeko is the more reliable striker right now.

Alvaro can play home games against the dross and come on when we're winning for now. Let Edin handle the tricky situations.

lol

 

[No17]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

Short simple answer to that question! Have a guess; you've got a one in two chance of getting it right!

Don't want to sound arrogant but I might be the candidate for the spot, and I'm sure that there are more.

I have defended him like many, but I've criticized him and kept a fairly unbiased opinion...thing is that usually the diehards are more vocal and we get placed in the same group as them...there is a large number of people who could give you the unbiased comment regarding Edin, they just don't bother because they usually get yelled at by the selected few so it's better to stay silent...

 

[LJ75]

Dzeko is not god. He gave birth to god. He is the omni-potent deity that wills opponents into submission and scores at will. If he feels like it. Other players, his team mates mostly, offer him their wives and girlfriends, but he refuses, because they are not virgins. He accepted Demichelises' offer, though.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Is there at least one level headed Bosnian poster on this forum? I understand that they signed up for this forum on the back of an unhealthy obsession with Edin but surely there must be a sensible one out there!

Short simple answer to that question! Have a guess; you've got a one in two chance of getting it right!

Don't want to sound arrogant but I might be the candidate for the spot, and I'm sure that there are more.

I have defended him like many, but I've criticized him and kept a fairly unbiased opinion...thing is that usually the diehards are more vocal and we get placed in the same group as them...there is a large number of people who could give you the unbiased comment regarding Edin, they just don't bother because they usually get yelled at by the selected few so it's better to stay silent...

It's a yes from me, you're through to the next round.

Any more Bosnians want to put themselves forward for the role of level headed? Think of it as an X Factor format, boot camp is next.

 

[JasminBosnia]

Not playing Dr. Phil here, but it somehow appears that Negredo sees a father figure in Edin. The way he looks for Dzecko after every goal he scores, followed by Edin's nodding and calming hug, Negredo closing his eyes...

Makes you wonder.

roflmao

-- Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:27 am --

In fairness to Negredo he's struggling to adapt to the league- and deserves time to adapt.

But Dzeko is the more reliable striker right now.

Alvaro can play home games against the dross and come on when we're winning for now. Let Edin handle the tricky situations.

roflmao X 50 goals<br /><br />-- Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:29 am --<br /><br />

lol

 

[Anonymous]

In fairness to Negredo he's struggling to adapt to the league- and deserves time to adapt. But Dzeko is the more reliable striker right now. Alvaro can play home games against the dross and come on when we're winning for now. Let Edin handle the tricky situations.

There is not one part of what you just wrote that is in any way accurate.

Is this in any way accurate ??
Negredos workrate was nowhere near in his last 5 games. As it was in first 5 games. Negredos workrate was similar to Dzekos in theirs last 5 games. Negredo is heavy striker and will NEVER run like Aguero. Aguero sprints as midfielder. With Negredo and Dzeko a lot of time games action needs to be stopped . So they can get in the box. All of you can wish what ever you want. Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate. He will never be able to give his workrate of first 5 games for the whole season. The thing he does is to close defenders 1 out of 5 times and crowd get crazy. They dont see that Ageuro close the defender 4 out of 5 times. Also in last 5 games Negredo had lost many many balls. And was not stronger on the ball than Dzeko in that last 5 games. There is only one thing in which he is constant better than Dzeko and dont that much ( Dzeko had 87 % pass accuracy last game. Game before that 83 % ). And that is short passing ( tiki-taka ). Negredo without Silva or Navas especially in away game is 50% worse player. Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is. Give Soldado Silva and Navas he would not be so bad that he is this year. Strongest/most creative midfield in the league, teammates from his NT SIlva, Navas, and maximal managers support are the Kee of Negredo looking so good in HOME PL/CL games. You can add to that 450 extra PL minutes ( against Dzeko ). But in PL/CL Away games when it is tougher to score. Even that dont help him much. On other hand Aguero can score anywhere against anybody.

I would ask you again. What would be comments here if Dzeko did this as Torres did in last game. Chelsea fans are not abusing player who is beeing shit for 2 years. Chelsea or Arsenal fans would be in heaven if Pellegrini would somehow allow Dzeko to go there. He will be first striker with tons of goals. If Dzeko had done that. This thread would have 30 pages in 1 hour, with tons of personal abuse of Dzeko. Most of which would be allowed.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacLe8jviH4[/youtube]

 

[Damocles]

 

[Matty]

In fairness to Negredo he's struggling to adapt to the league- and deserves time to adapt. But Dzeko is the more reliable striker right now. Alvaro can play home games against the dross and come on when we're winning for now. Let Edin handle the tricky situations.

There is not one part of what you just wrote that is in any way accurate.

Is this in any way accurate ??
Negredos workrate was nowhere near in his last 5 games. As it was in first 5 games. Negredos workrate was similar to Dzekos in theirs last 5 games. Negredo is heavy striker and will NEVER run like Aguero. Aguero sprints as midfielder. With Negredo and Dzeko a lot of time games action needs to be stopped . So they can get in the box. All of you can wish what ever you want. Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate. He will never be able to give his workrate of first 5 games for the whole season. The thing he does is to close defenders 1 out of 5 times and crowd get crazy. They dont see that Ageuro close the defender 4 out of 5 times. Also in last 5 games Negredo had lost many many balls. And was not stronger on the ball than Dzeko in that last 5 games. There is only one thing in which he is constant better than Dzeko and dont that much ( Dzeko had 87 % pass accuracy last game. Game before that 83 % ). And that is short passing ( tiki-taka ). Negredo without Silva or Navas especially in away game is 50% worse player. Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is. Give Soldado Silva and Navas he would not be so bad that he is this year. Strongest/most creative midfield in the league, teammates from his NT SIlva, Navas, and maximal managers support are the Kee of Negredo looking so good in HOME PL/CL games. You can add to that 450 extra PL minutes ( against Dzeko ). But in PL/CL Away games when it is tougher to score. Even that dont help him much. On other hand Aguero can score anywhere against anybody.

I would ask you again. What would be comments here if Dzeko did this as Torres did in last game. Chelsea fans are not abusing player who is beeing shit for 2 years. Chelsea or Arsenal fans would be in heaven if Pellegrini would somehow allow Dzeko to go there. He will be first striker with tons of goals. If Dzeko had done that. This thread would have 30 pages in 1 hour, with tons of personal abuse of Dzeko. Most of which would be allowed.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacLe8jviH4[/youtube]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

 

[bugsyblue]

Negredo's form has slipped later, I agree. He's probably now only 100 times better than Dzeko. Hopefully he will get back to being 1000 times better.

 

[AntiUnited]

There is not one part of what you just wrote that is in any way accurate.

Is this in any way accurate ??
Negredos workrate was nowhere near in his last 5 games. As it was in first 5 games. Negredos workrate was similar to Dzekos in theirs last 5 games. Negredo is heavy striker and will NEVER run like Aguero. Aguero sprints as midfielder. With Negredo and Dzeko a lot of time games action needs to be stopped . So they can get in the box. All of you can wish what ever you want. Negredo will never be fast player with great workrate. He will never be able to give his workrate of first 5 games for the whole season. The thing he does is to close defenders 1 out of 5 times and crowd get crazy. They dont see that Ageuro close the defender 4 out of 5 times. Also in last 5 games Negredo had lost many many balls. And was not stronger on the ball than Dzeko in that last 5 games. There is only one thing in which he is constant better than Dzeko and dont that much ( Dzeko had 87 % pass accuracy last game. Game before that 83 % ). And that is short passing ( tiki-taka ). Negredo without Silva or Navas especially in away game is 50% worse player. Put him in Tottenham team. He would not be much better than Soldado was/is. Give Soldado Silva and Navas he would not be so bad that he is this year. Strongest/most creative midfield in the league, teammates from his NT SIlva, Navas, and maximal managers support are the Kee of Negredo looking so good in HOME PL/CL games. You can add to that 450 extra PL minutes ( against Dzeko ). But in PL/CL Away games when it is tougher to score. Even that dont help him much. On other hand Aguero can score anywhere against anybody.

I would ask you again. What would be comments here if Dzeko did this as Torres did in last game. Chelsea fans are not abusing player who is beeing shit for 2 years. Chelsea or Arsenal fans would be in heaven if Pellegrini would somehow allow Dzeko to go there. He will be first striker with tons of goals. If Dzeko had done that. This thread would have 30 pages in 1 hour, with tons of personal abuse of Dzeko. Most of which would be allowed.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qacLe8jviH4[/youtube]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

[bigimg]http://i44.tinypic.com/2cgl9fr.gif[/bigimg]

Called opinion and he dosent follow the negredo clult

 

[Anonymous]

Aside from agreeing that Negredo's form has slipped slightly over the past few games I simply can't agree on pretty much everything else you've written, to the point where it isn't even worth me picking each point out and demonstrating why you're wrong. Lets just go with "it's all wrong" and leave it there.

OK. And how do you explain that Negredo needs 550min+ to score AWAY PL goal. ( it is more than full 6 games ). And the fact that he did not score any goal in two CL AWAY games. Is it so hard to think that it is not just coincidence. And there are reasons for it. It is 650min PL+CL AWAY GAMES/per goal.. It is more than 7 full games and just one goal. And i did not include any extra time in those games. Just 90 min each. He had scored just 1 goal against tougher teams in away games.
When would you start asking yourself. Would 1000 min/per goal be enough, 1500min/per goal ?? That he is not the player some here thinks he is. He is solid player with great teammates who get best out of him and with ( for him ) great manager who wanted him and is making things easier for him in all possible ways. Minutes played, team selection, .....

 

[Damocles]

Oh good, another thread where our Bosnian friends tell us how hard done to Dzeko is and how he's not really bad but instead is the victim of mistreatment. Summer cannot come quick enough.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh good, another thread where our Bosnian friends tell us how hard done to Dzeko is and how he's not really bad but instead is the victim of mistreatment. Summer cannot come quick enough.

Why not January. Jovetic would be probably healthy and is probably too good to be third choice anyway. I am all for giving Guidetti some game time. I really wanted for him to play in last few cup games and said it on this forum. He is ideal fourth choice striker and Jovetic third for now. There must be players available in January. You can not be 100 % certain they are not. Dzeko is wanted by many clubs so this part would not be a problem. Also there is always posibility of swaps. Why not swap Dzeko for Mata. He was best Chelseas player in last two years. And he will fit in this team perfectly. Mourinho would agree in a second. Pellegrini too. Chelsea and City fans too. There must be others players for swap deal just in PL. For example Soldado, Lamela, .... All this playes would fit much better than Dzeko in the way this team plays.
No hard feelings from me. We just have different opinions. Almost every manager have some preferences. I am under strong opinion that Negredo/Hart where his preferences from the beggining and Dzeko/Pantilimon were waited for theirs first big mistake ( which would come anyway ) to be benched. Dzeko/Pantilimon were used to get the most out of Negredo/Hart. Especially Hart. When you have to fight for your place you work better than if your place is cemented. Every great team have 15 + TOP players. And if you ask any manager. What is the toughest job for them. They will tell you it is to keep all players happy enough. So managers use every possible trick to achieve this. Telling their players after great preseason that they are going to be Main man publicly. And than be droped after bad 45 min of third game is just one of those. It had happened and will happen in future in many teams. Dzeko is FAR from WC player allround, ( He is still very lethal finisher ) especially at his current form. But Pellegrini is also not without mistake. He missplayed Kaka at Real, because of same reasons. Too many great players. That Kaka is now best player of Milan.

 

[Damocles]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

 

[pominoz]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

You are wasting your time Dam, Dzeko is the bestest, greatest player to grace the Premier League.
Just ask the Bosnians.

 

[Anonymous]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

If you are clubs official for the transfers then I am sorry. May I ask how can you be so certain that nobody ???? wants Dzeko.
Bayern wanted him 1,5 years ago City wanted too many money ( around 20 mil ). It was in all biggest german newspapers. Then Bayern turned after that for other strikers. There very many other clubs Chelsea, Tottenham, Napoli who had publicly said they are interested in last years. Just at the moment this clubs wants him:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10490030/Manchester-City-manager-Manuel-Pellegrini-blocks-Arsenal-move-for-out-of-favour-striker-Edin-Dzeko.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... Dzeko.html</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/3880/singapore/2013/12/28/4505939/peter-lim-wants-dzeko-for-valencia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/3880/sin ... r-valencia</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.football-italia.net/41712/dzeko-inter-radar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.football-italia.net/41712/dzeko-inter-radar</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.football-italia.net/43248/milan-duo-fight-dzeko" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.football-italia.net/43248/mi ... ight-dzeko</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2503993/Borussia-Dortmund-Inter-Milan-interested-Manchester-City-striker-Edin-Dzeko.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... Dzeko.html</a>
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-gossip-xabi-alonso-6469087" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... so-6469087</a>

How can you say NONE club wants Dzeko. It so absolutely not true. Just take Pellegrinis not allowing him to go to Arsenal 1 montes ago. That can not be NONE clubs. Pellegrini have said NO. It was not because of not reasonable price. It was because of other things. Things are not black or white. They are usually grey.

 

[AntiUnited]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

You are wasting your time Dam, Dzeko is the bestest, greatest player to grace the Premier League.
Just ask the Bosnians.

na according to most on this forum negredo is the resurrection of christ.. so any 1 other then him is shit.

 

[Anonymous]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

You are wasting your time Dam, Dzeko is the bestest, greatest player to grace the Premier League.
Just ask the Bosnians.

Dzeko is not even in top 5 strikers in PL.

Rooney, van Persie, Aguero, Suarez are MILES better than him.
Dzeko was great striker when he came to Manchester City. If he had chosen club like Arsenal. He would be now one of TOP 5 strikers in this league. Now at his current form he is not even in TOP 10 PL strikers.
You are right, Bosnians dont have a clue about football.

 

[invincible]

Dzeko is a brilliant player, but the beast negredo is better

 

[AntiUnited]

"It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Mancini" has carried over to "It isn't Dzeko's fault, it is Pellegrini" I see.

And there's nobody who wants Dzeko for anything near a reasonable price, City have been trying to ship him out for two years.

You are wasting your time Dam, Dzeko is the bestest, greatest player to grace the Premier League.
Just ask the Bosnians.

Dzeko is not even in top 5 strikers in PL.

Rooney, van Persie, Aguero, Suarez are MILES better than him.
Dzeko was great striker when he came to Manchester City. If he had chosen club like Arsenal. He would be now one of TOP 5 strikers in this league. Now at his current form he is not even in TOP 10 PL strikers.
You are right, Bosnians dont have a clue about football.

Need a new fishing rod brah.