EDS @ New York Stadium (EFL Trophy) 28/10 v Rotherham Utd

90s blue brother said:
I get your frustration but trust me Wilkinson doesn’t have free run at choosing the team, all sorts of shenanigans and politics have to be navigated. Do you not think we looked better when he subbed off the really young kids? Hes dealing with external influences

Honestly can you remember a youth team manager having a more successful run than Ben has over the last 3 seasons?
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All youth team coaches are in the same boat and are governed by the needs of the first team. What is starting to irk me is that each defeat occurs in the same manner. If a player can't be arsed to do the hard yards at this age, it won't happen next week, next month or next season. Some of this team have definitely gone backwards. It is they who will regret it, not us.
When you reach the age of 18 you have to really show what you can do and just relying on your ability won't suffice. Cut out all the fannying about because where some of these end up, it won't be enough.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Not a vintage crop, this
Sangare looks useful though, a genuine finisher
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I thought Sangare’s composure let him down tonight. Decent goal (although their keeper should have saved it) but then missed three great chances after that.
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
All youth team coaches are in the same boat and are governed by the needs of the first team. What is starting to irk me is that each defeat occurs in the same manner. If a player can't be arsed to do the hard yards at this age, it won't happen next week, next month or next season. Some of this team have definitely gone backwards. It is they who will regret it, not us.
When you reach the age of 18 you have to really show what you can do and just relying on your ability won't suffice. Cut out all the fannying about because where some of these end up, it won't be enough.
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I agree apart from I don’t think Ben alone carries the can. But you are spot on on hard yards imo
 
johnny crossan said:
Defeat after defeat with so much talent at his disposal.
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I'm not convinced by some of the so called "talent" I went to a couple of their big games last year, and the mentality of some of them is less than fragile, maybe good individually, but they're not all team players.

Yes some playing tonight are young for the EDS, but they need to learn to be a team, I've not seen any of tonight, but on the face of it, it looks like a collapse, and not for the first time.
 
It frustrates me how our wide players tend to have 2 or 3 players in front of them but we regularly allow the opposition, all teams the freedom for any old mug to swing a cross in unchallenged and these result in goals .
 
I was a bit disappointed in Reigan Heskey and McAidoo but you can't underestimate the difference in facing a 17 year old in academy football one week, then trying to beat a seasoned professional over the course of an hour the next.

That's why it takes the majority of youth players a season or two to adapt to Pep's demands.

They will need to find more hunger and drive though to reach the top. The only players I really saw that determination from, as well as the willingness to compete physically in the 2nd half when it got difficult, were J Heskey, Mfuni, Gray and Parker.

It's a funny old game. Had we taken our chances and been deservedly 4 or 5 nil up we wouldn't be having this conversation, and instead praising how great their pressing was and some of the football we played.
 
On the night when PL teams came unstuck the BBC come up with this headline:

Four-goal Rotherham floor Man City in EFL Trophy​


The Arse shipped four against Exeter but their woe only appears halfway down the article.

The day the BBC are required to beg for subscribers I shall be among the first to render an Agincourt salute! Bastards.
 
Otamendi's Beard said:
I was a bit disappointed in Reigan Heskey and McAidoo but you can't underestimate the difference in facing a 17 year old in academy football one week, then trying to beat a seasoned professional over the course of an hour the next.

That's why it takes the majority of youth players a season or two to adapt to Pep's demands.

They will need to find more hunger and drive though to reach the top. The only players I really saw that determination from, as well as the willingness to compete physically in the 2nd half when it got difficult, were J Heskey, Mfuni, Gray and Parker.

It's a funny old game. Had we taken our chances and been deservedly 4 or 5 nil up we wouldn't be having this conversation, and instead praising how great their pressing was and some of the football we played.
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100%, those less hyped tend to be the grafters and we underestimate the step up from youth to senior football.

Spot on all that imo
 
For 45 minutes we ripped them to pieces. We could easily have been 5-0 up before they were gifted a penalty by a woeful referee

The worry was if they got 1, they would come back. I guess at 17 / 18 years old they don't have the experience to deal with a team of seasoned professional grown men suddenly getting the momentum of a sniff of a comeback

However we could have still scored a couple after this

We played some fantastic football at times
 
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